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Alan..

Where, in the press releases does it say Aurora users are getting switched over to VAST?

Where in the press releases does it say as an Aurora user I will get a subsidy for VAST?

Where in the press releases does it say when I can access the VAST service?

I did find this on the mysat page, about converting later in the year, but can't find no references elsewhere in the press releases.

When is the new service going to be available?

Eligible viewers in Mildura/Sunraysia are now able to watch the programs.

Existing Remote Area viewers who currently watch Southern Cross and Imparja via satellite will be able to convert to this new service later in the year following the Mildura/Sunraysia switchover. We will have more information on this site soon.

Quick edit...this on the mysat page regarding Aurora viewers...scratch question 1...sorry

Existing Remote Area viewers who currently watch Southern Cross and Imparja via satellite will be able to convert to this new service later in the year following the Mildura/Sunraysia switchover. We will have more information on this site soon.

If you could kindly direct link me to three issues above, that would be appreciated.

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Will,

First of all, don't read anything AlanH posts. He always replies without actually reading the post.

Your points are extremely valid, and highlight the flaws in the rollout of VAST. In my honest, unsourced, completely speculative opinion; the local networks in SA would be utterly mad not to provide all multi-channels via terrestrial before activating VAST subscribers. As for self-help sites, I'm not sure if it can be avoided. Yes, it sucks that those who have grown used to getting TV via terrestrial will suddenly have to change to a box-and-card-per-tv arrangement, but this is nothing new. Rural folk have had this sort of "treatment" for many years. I'm not saying people won't be pissed off about it, but I think you'll be surprised at what people are willing to do to get, for the first time ever, proper metro-grade digital TV. Personally, if I could avoid my council's dodgy out-dated transmitter for a kick-arse digital satellite service, I'd upgrade in a heartbeat.

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Viewer,

Read the links in post 2 of this strand.

SMacca,

You had better go there too.

AlanH

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Viewer,

Read the links in post 2 of this strand.

SMacca,

You had better go there too. I was not answering your post in post 2, just adding to it.

AlanH

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... or get a subsidy of $650 for a satellite receiver?

How's that again?

Over 50 per cent of the VAST cost subsidised

For households eligible for the Satellite Subsidy, this one-off installation charge will be substantially reduced by the subsidy amount, to less than half the total cost of installation, resulting in a household payment of around $200 to $350.

Source

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M,bozo,

This quote assumes that a dish installation already exists. Where the viewer is using a community funded analog transmitter is not converted by the broadcasters to digital the refund is higher to help pay for the dish installation.

You link also reinforces the statement I have been making, which is that you cannot get a subsidy unless the analog switch off zone is in your area.

AlanH

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Do you have anything that says '$650' or is this a figure made up by you based upon your guestimate of how much an installation costs? Government documents I have seen to date do not mention $650.

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Viewer,

Read the links in post 2 of this strand.

SMacca,

You had better go there too.

AlanH

Hi,

Sorry for not being the smartest researcher of this information, but I have tried to see the exact wording you are pointing me to, but for some reason, I can't find it. Maybe I have a blind spot for it all and it stares me in the eye?

To make it easier for a dumbo like me, can you show me by a direct link

where it says I as an Aurora user will be directly switched to VAST,

and a link, direct to where they are going to subsidise it for me.

I did go to the geographical users page, found my transmitter as Mt. Moombil, and came to a grinding halt with your instructions from post 2.

My location is....if it helps..

30 ° 6'1.23"S

153 ° 0'0.93"E

Mt. Moombil Tower is

30 ° 19'1.64"S

152 ° 51'35.31"E

Many thanks..

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Sorry for not being the smartest researcher of this information

You and me both.

I've asked this question of the respective authority, and the best I could come up with, in consultation with the telephone advice, is "watch this space" :(

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Well, there you go...the only place to claim a subsidy so far is SA, no other state.

http://bcoms.dbcde.gov.au/satellite-subsidy/SelectTown.do

Anyhow, thought I'd play the "game"

I said I lived in Adelaide 5000

Result

"Postcode not eligible

The postcode that you have entered is not eligible for the Satellite Subsidy Scheme. For more information on eligibility for the Satellite Subsidy Scheme please visit the following link."

So, if you live in Adelaide, and are in a Black Spot....go to Jail, directly to Jail, do not pass go....no help.

If you go to the subsidy page again, tell it you are in NSW, this result

State not eligible

The switchover to digital television is occurring progressively throughout Australia on a region-by-region basis. The State that you have picked is not currently undergoing switchover. For more information on when the Satellite Subsidy Scheme is being rolled out in your area, please visit the link below.

So to a dumbo like me, this indicates three things

If you are applying for a subsidy before your area has analogue turned off...go away

If you are in an eligible state, but not postcode area...go away

If you are an existing Aurora user....go away, but keep your eye on the mysat page.

As for the statement....

"All regional Australians will now receive the same television services as people in the cities," said the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy.".......yes, but weare not saying when, and only for the people we select, the others can go To Jail, directly to Jail, do not pass go.

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Viewer,

You have finally got the message that you can't get VAST until the analog switchover comes to the North Coast of NSW.

Who would want Aurora when instead of 4 programs you can get 16 programs from 5 networks. Those 4 programs are included in VAST. That is why it will be switched off at the end of 2013. The satellite subsidy for Aurora can stop.

So in remote area satellite service, the analog switchover is really a change from Aurora DVB-S/MPEG-2 to VAST DVB-S2/MPEG-4 both HD and SD.

Every area of Australia has a postcode. Even if you are on a remote property the licenced post office has a postcode to allow mail to be delivered to your PO box.

The remote licence area will be converted to VAST in the last half of 2013.

There is no point watching the mysat site because they have to follow the analog switchover timetable outlined above.

Alanh

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The satellite subsidy for Aurora can stop.

Umm...Aurora subsidy? :huh:

So in remote area satellite service, the analog switchover is really a change from Aurora DVB-S/MPEG-2 to VAST DVB-S2/MPEG-4 both HD and SD.

With the fairly huge (and hopefully obvious) difference that most areas that are currently receiving Digital Terrestrial did not have to wait for analogue switchoff to convert. :rolleyes:

...and for DVB-T viewers there is no miserly access-regulation regime either...

Cheers.

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Viewer,

You have finally got the message that you can't get VAST until the analog switchover comes to the North Coast of NSW.

Who would want Aurora when instead of 4 programs you can get 16 programs from 5 networks. Those 4 programs are included in VAST. That is why it will be switched off at the end of 2013. The satellite subsidy for Aurora can stop.

So in remote area satellite service, the analog switchover is really a change from Aurora DVB-S/MPEG-2 to VAST DVB-S2/MPEG-4 both HD and SD.

Every area of Australia has a postcode. Even if you are on a remote property the licenced post office has a postcode to allow mail to be delivered to your PO box.

The remote licence area will be converted to VAST in the last half of 2013.

There is no point watching the mysat site because they have to follow the analog switchover timetable outlined above.

Alanh

Alanh...What the heck are you going on about postcodes for...ffs..that reference was included in my post, as one has to enter a postcode into the subsidy box to see if you are eligible or not...course everyone has a postcode..sheez mate, take a grip.

As you say...Who would want Aurora when instead of 4 programs you can get 16 programs from 5 networks. Those 4 programs are included in VAST I am on Aurora and that is why the f I want VAST!!! My Mr Minister Conroy told me in a press release it is there for every Australian, no matter where they live. Well guess what ...I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA.

FFS...I don't believe how stupid all this is....no wonder the people question this government's wisdom these days.

I am going to try exceedingly hard not to post my garbage anymore, as it just seems to be words between ourselves and getting us nowhere.

If I get something informative, I'll post it.

Sorry everyone, but I'm so hurt that no-one in our beaurocracy ever listens to the poor fools like me whom simply want to what tv, and get told how we should wait, and whom don't seem to grasp the fact that this VAST rollout is severly flawed, and don't give a crap about trying to bring this to the attention of the gatekeepers, but simply rehash government media releases.

Diatribe over.

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