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"...the TV can not eat almost anything: only has a black level that would fail to impress 'plasmisti' fiercest." ??? :lol:

Eh watchyou talkin abouta eh?

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How are you guys going to connect the bonus BDP-6900 to your TVs?

I use the analogue outs on my Oppo already and really notice the difference with HD audio so I'm not particularly keen to listen to DD or DTS only via optical from the 6900.

I'm just wondering if/can I use an HDMI splitter so that I can send the HD audio to my AVR separately to the video going to the TV? I emailed Keith at ezyhd.com.au and he couldn't see why not - just wondering if anyone knows for sure?

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How are you guys going to connect the bonus BDP-6900 to your TVs?

I use the analogue outs on my Oppo already and really notice the difference with HD audio so I'm not particularly keen to listen to DD or DTS only via optical from the 6900.

I'm just wondering if/can I use an HDMI splitter so that I can send the HD audio to my AVR separately to the video going to the TV? I emailed Keith at ezyhd.com.au and he couldn't see why not - just wondering if anyone knows for sure?

I'll be running the HDMI straight to the tv, then the 7.1 analogue outputs will go into the 5.1 inputs on the back of my amp(pre-HDMI) to gimme the HD audio. Pretty much what I've got going now with my BD-P3600.

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That's where I got it from. :)

btw shouldn't your signature also include the 63" monster as one of your next purchases?

:) but I already have purchased the 63 it just isn't here yet

The speakers are a pipe dream atm.

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Samsung Ps63c7000

No please no. This means a long wait and "next shipment" excuse from the retailers. I was part of the 65v10 waiting game and I hated it. :o

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Now that's a Whatch-yoo-talkin-about-Willis moment!! :lol:

If you've never watched Different Strokes ignore the above

:lol: :lol: I was laughing my head of when I read this.

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How are you guys going to connect the bonus BDP-6900 to your TVs?

I use the analogue outs on my Oppo already and really notice the difference with HD audio so I'm not particularly keen to listen to DD or DTS only via optical from the 6900.

I'm just wondering if/can I use an HDMI splitter so that I can send the HD audio to my AVR separately to the video going to the TV? I emailed Keith at ezyhd.com.au and he couldn't see why not - just wondering if anyone knows for sure?

I know that the new Pana 3d br players have two hdmi outs,

If one is hdmi 1.4 (video) and the other hdmi is 1.3 for audio then this should work on (legacy)1.3 avr's,

If you have a splitter and you are playing MvA in 3d then not sure of compatibility issues as both video and audio will be transferred per hdmi cable into avr and TV.

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Checked out the 55"LED today at the GG's SouthWarf, just to get another feel for the whole 3d thang.. Highly recommend these guys, this guy was soo helpful, answered any q's we thew at him and was only too happy to demo the tv. Not once did he ask "are you guys going to purchase a tv today?"

We didn't mention that we were waiting for the sammy plasmas, so when we were checkng out the 63" Series 6, he said that this tv was only for people who want to brag to others that they have a 63"tv!! Too funny. What to ya reckon would be better for bragging rights... having a 63" TV or having a 3D tv?

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i was told that you need to be a min 5m away for a 63"

The room that I'll be putting this puppy in will have me sitting at 5.25 mtrs. I stepped back from the 63" about that distance today at GG's and it was sweet, they had StarTrek playing.

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The room that I'll be putting this puppy in will have me sitting at 5.25 mtrs. I stepped back from the 63" about that distance today at GG's and it was sweet, they had StarTrek playing.

ill be about 4.2 mtrs away. Its got me worried tbqh. Should I scale down to 58 inch? dont know tbqh.

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C. What to ya reckon would be better for bragging rights... having a 63" TV or having a 3D tv?

If you get the 63 7000 you will score the double whammy

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I know that the new Pana 3d br players have two hdmi outs,

If one is hdmi 1.4 (video) and the other hdmi is 1.3 for audio then this should work on (legacy)1.3 avr's,

If you have a splitter and you are playing MvA in 3d then not sure of compatibility issues as both video and audio will be transferred per hdmi cable into avr and TV.

Yeah that's what I'm not sure about.

I'm actually wondering with the PS3 getting an upgrade whether or not to leave the Samsung player in its' box unwrapped when it arrives and check if the PS3 can do it first.

Then at least I have the choice of selling the bdp-6900 2nd hand (albeit BNIB) if it's not going to deliver substantial 2D improvements over the PS3.

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i was told that you need to be a min 5m away for a 63"
The room that I'll be putting this puppy in will have me sitting at 5.25 mtrs. I stepped back from the 63" about that distance today at GG's and it was sweet, they had StarTrek playing.
ill be about 4.2 mtrs away. Its got me worried tbqh. Should I scale down to 58 inch? dont know tbqh.

This a useful calculator

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewing...ancemetric.html

At 4.2m a 63" will be fine

In fact for THX 3.1m is the max, and 2.2m recommended for a 63".

But at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what the numbers say, as long as you find it comfortable viewing the screen from a set distance.

Just be aware that at certain distances teh human eye cannot tell the difference between some resolutions, so make sure you can actually see the max resolution of your TV at the viewing distance you choose.

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter

Resolution/distance chart

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

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Samsung should make a 768p 63” for people who sit 4 meters plus away from the screen, no point in “Full HD” at that distance on a screen that small.

To get a back row cinema like viewing experience you would need to sit 3.1 meters away from a 63” and that’s about the limit for 1080 viewing as well. A 4.2 meter viewing distance would require a 86” screen and at 5.2 meters you would need a 106” screen.

Remember this is back row cinema like viewing not mid cinema which would require a much bigger screen.

People who view a little 80cm TV at 2 meters have a bigger picture than a 63” at 4.2 meters and much bigger than a 63” at 5.2 meters.

Why buy a decent size screen then make it small by sitting a loooong way back?

Obviously if you have no choice in viewing arrangements so be it but don’t think the situation ideal.

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Samsung should make a 768p 63” for people who sit 4 meters plus away from the screen, no point in “Full HD” at that distance on a screen that small.

To get a back row cinema like viewing experience you would need to sit 3.1 meters away from a 63” and that’s about the limit for 1080 viewing as well. A 4.2 meter viewing distance would require a 86” screen and at 5.2 meters you would need a 106” screen.

Remember this is back row cinema like viewing not mid cinema which would require a much bigger screen.

People who view a little 80cm TV at 2 meters have a bigger picture than a 63” at 4.2 meters and much bigger than a 63” at 5.2 meters.

Why buy a decent size screen then make it small by sitting a loooong way back?

Obviously if you have no choice in viewing arrangements so be it but don’t think the situation ideal.

Thanks for the calcs Owen. I guess i'm not going for ideal viewing distance with the purchase of the 63". We currently view a 42" at that distance, we just wanted a bigger tv, and up until the release of the 63" Sammy, the 58" Panny was on the cards. I can't see ourselves sitting 3.1mtrs from this thing, even if it's the viewing limit. If we sit further back, it' not like the pictures going to get worse, we just won't be able to tell the difference between 720 and 1080. As you said, they should make a 768p tv, but even then, "conned-sumers" would buy the FullHD 3D tv anyways.

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Not sure that is right, they are actually on the Samsung website, just as The Digital Home Entertainment Specialist - St ALbans, go to sales locator, put in 3021 as the post code, and they come up. Pretty sure if they werent authorised they wouldnt be on the Samsung website as one of the places to buy their stock

I don't believe they are the same mob...Digital Centre is at Shop 3, 60 Keilor Park Drive, Keilor. I actually gave Samsung the website....and after checking they said no....

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Not sure that is right, they are actually on the Samsung website, just as The Digital Home Entertainment Specialist - St ALbans, go to sales locator, put in 3021 as the post code, and they come up. Pretty sure if they werent authorised they wouldnt be on the Samsung website as one of the places to buy their stock

I don't believe they are the same mob...Digital Centre is at Shop 3, 60 Keilor Park Drive, Keilor. I actually gave Samsung the website....and after checking they said no....

The St Albans address is their old address, they must of moved, as Ive bought stuff from them before in store.

Do a google search for Digital Home Entertainment St Albans 40 Main St St Albans VIC, which is on the Samsung website as one of the places to buy their products, and have a look at the first result .

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Samsung should make a 768p 63” for people who sit 4 meters plus away from the screen, no point in “Full HD” at that distance on a screen that small.

To get a back row cinema like viewing experience you would need to sit 3.1 meters away from a 63” and that’s about the limit for 1080 viewing as well. A 4.2 meter viewing distance would require a 86” screen and at 5.2 meters you would need a 106” screen.

Remember this is back row cinema like viewing not mid cinema which would require a much bigger screen.

People who view a little 80cm TV at 2 meters have a bigger picture than a 63” at 4.2 meters and much bigger than a 63” at 5.2 meters.

Why buy a decent size screen then make it small by sitting a loooong way back?

Obviously if you have no choice in viewing arrangements so be it but don’t think the situation ideal.

Seriously Owen if I sat that close to my TV I would feel sick.

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Seriously Owen if I sat that close to my TV I would feel sick.

Agreed, I started with a 68cm Sony@5.2mtrs, went to a 42" Samsung@5.2mtrs and will end up with a 63"Samsung@5.2mtrs. The only constant here is the 5.2mtrs.

Going on those calcs, i'd have to be approx. 5cm from my old 32cm Sony CRT!!! Talk about going cross eyed! :lol:

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Seriously Owen if I sat that close to my TV I would feel sick.
Agreed, I started with a 68cm Sony@5.2mtrs, went to a 42" Samsung@5.2mtrs and will end up with a 63"Samsung@5.2mtrs. The only constant here is the 5.2mtrs.

Going on those calcs, i'd have to be approx. 5cm from my old 32cm Sony CRT!!! Talk about going cross eyed! :lol:

I think something is getting overlooked in the viewing distance calculations.

In a cinema the screen is large and we sit further away, so our eyes focus on an object quite a distance away.

If we sit proportionally the same distance away from a TV our eyes are focusing on an object much closer.

This would make some people feel nauseous.

So it can't be just a matter of sitting proportionally the same distance from a TV as in a cinema. Other factors also need to be taken into account.

And I have a hunch that 3D will only make the eye strain at close distances more pronounced.

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I think something is getting overlooked in the viewing distance calculations.

In a cinema the screen is large and we sit further away, so our eyes focus on an object quite a distance away.

If we sit proportionally the same distance away from a TV our eyes are focusing on an object much closer.

This would make some people feel nauseous.

So it can't be just a matter of sitting proportionally the same distance from a TV as in a cinema. Other factors also need to be taken into account.

And I have a hunch that 3D will only make the eye strain at close distances more pronounced.

Agreed ...forget prescribed distances. We are all different and I will chose how far I sit that makes me comfortable.

And I want a 63 full hd 3dtv to show of to my fr :P iends :D

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To be sure try to get an email confirmation from Samsung that DC are authorised. Otherwise you could end up not getting the promo items.

Anyone got an email confirmation about Digital centre store being an authorised reseller yet ??

I havent heard anything back yet

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There seem to be some assumptions here by people that have never lived with a big screen up close.

There are many people on this forum who own 60” plus TV’s that are viewed from less than 3 meters and know one has ever complained the screen was too big or of any viewing discomfort. Projector owners often view 100 - 120” screens form 4 to 5 meters and like what they see.

I have a 70” that is viewed from 2.8 - 3.0 meters and again I nor anyone else has ever had any discomfort or complaint about size or viewing distance over the last 3.5 years. The main issue for me is that wide aspect ratio movies are too bloody small and don’t fill enough of my vision.

When I go to the cinema I like to sit mid cinema and a 70” viewed from 3 meters is too small to provide that view, its more like sitting in the back row just as the Viewing Distance Calculator suggests.

So rather than assume a 63” is too big at 2.7 meters how about testing one for an hour or more and find out. If you still feel that viewing a 63” from 4 or 5 meters is preferable so be it. You get used to the size very quickly and will find the experience better than just watching TV which is all a 63” is a 5 meters.

A few years ago when anything larger than a 42” was prohibitively expensive people said that a 50” was just too big. I couple of years on when prices had fallen a 50” was fine and 60” was too big. Now that a 63” is cheap there is a lot of interest, was it the size that put people off 60” plus models or the price?

If Samsung came out with a 70” or larger flat panel for the same price as the 63” I wonder how many people would change their mind about size, especially those sitting 4 or 5 meters away.

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yeah i agree with Owen

im sitting in my office and thinking, 5.2m is amazing set back for a tv. go into a harvey normans where the tvs are lined up in rows. there wouldnt even be a 3-4m gap between opposing tvs, yet people look at it fine. when you stand in a store and check out the 63"/65" plasmas on display i bet you stand under 3m to the screens everytime and don't think to move back.

I've gone into myer 100's of times in Broadbeach and they have had various big screen tvs set up, people always stand under 3m away from those tvs and all look at them, everytime.

i measured my setup again the other day and we sit around 3 - 3.7m from our projector, used all the time, main tv, games, movies. the size is 90" no complaints about size, feeling sick, anything. yet if i go to a friends and watch a 42" plasma, a sized tv i had 5 years ago, i definitely complain inside.

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There seem to be some assumptions here by people that have never lived with a big screen up close.

There are many people on this forum who own 60” plus TV’s that are viewed from less than 3 meters and know one has ever complained the screen was too big or of any viewing discomfort. Projector owners often view 100 - 120” screens form 4 to 5 meters and like what they see.

I have a 70” that is viewed from 2.8 - 3.0 meters and again I nor anyone else has ever had any discomfort or complaint about size or viewing distance over the last 3.5 years. The main issue for me is that wide aspect ratio movies are too bloody small and don’t fill enough of my vision.

When I go to the cinema I like to sit mid cinema and a 70” viewed from 3 meters is too small to provide that view, its more like sitting in the back row just as the Viewing Distance Calculator suggests.

So rather than assume a 63” is too big at 2.7 meters how about testing one for an hour or more and find out. If you still feel that viewing a 63” from 4 or 5 meters is preferable so be it. You get used to the size very quickly and will find the experience better than just watching TV which is all a 63” is a 5 meters.

A few years ago when anything larger than a 42” was prohibitively expensive people said that a 50” was just too big. I couple of years on when prices had fallen a 50” was fine and 60” was too big. Now that a 63” is cheap there is a lot of interest, was it the size that put people off 60” plus models or the price?

If Samsung came out with a 70” or larger flat panel for the same price as the 63” I wonder how many people would change their mind about size, especially those sitting 4 or 5 meters away.

I had a 65v10 and tried the prescribed settings and it made me and my wife quite nauseous. Especially watching action films.

I stated above that people should sit at a distance that they feel comfortable with and if it happens to be at the prescribed viewing distance so well and good.

The other point is that the room logistics and WAF may have a large say as to how far we sit as well.

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Latest info from Samsung UK forums is suggesting major manufacturing problems and delays on the C7000 Plasma's. I wonder if our Aus C7000 Plasma's will be delayed as well...Sadly I am guessing yes... :(

An edited quote from forum poster gregdeyer in UK AVforums.com Samsung Thread:

"...the information received from the rep at Samsung is that the C7000 is having severe delays in manufacturing due to some sort of new filtering technology (Real Black Filter?) the screens are using and only very small quantities are going to be available throughout the UK until at least July. His understanding was that most stores are only selling the units that they are supposed to use as display stock and is not something they are getting large quantities off.

He said that they won't be accepting new orders for the PS50C7000 until regular stock is going to be available to all which is too late for people for the world cup & that Samsung had already organised for a replacement model which features the exact same specifications as the PS50C7000, minus the new filtering technology, to be available in large quantities before the world cup. Apparently he went to a training session with Samsung UK and couldn't tell any major differences in the picture quality from the televisions using the new filtering technology and those that wasn't. The model number he said that is going to be the temp replacement is the PS50C6900 and will feature a similar titanium bezel to the C8000 LED TVs but will be around £100-150 cheaper. He seemed to know what he was talking about and it seems a plausable reason for the sudden shortage from all retailers for the PS50C7000 to get everyone onto the PS50C6900. Apparently because the PS50C7000 is the lowest number in the Series 7 range, Samsung have only called the temp replacment as the C6900 so that its not suggested as an upgrade to the C7000..."

If this same scenario were to happen here which I think is quite likely, who here would be willing to cancel their orders on the delayed C7000 and switch to the (theoretically) in stock Plasma C6900 model?

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