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Hey SteveEJ,

You've bagged a bargain there! I'm trying to buy one at that price. Would really appreciate if you could send the receipt to me at geoffw@vibranttechnology.com .

Really appreciated,

BK.

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Hey SteveEJ,

You've bagged a bargain there! I'm trying to buy one at that price. Would really appreciate if you could send the receipt to me at geoffw@vibranttechnology.com .

Really appreciated,

BK.

can you send me a copy of the receipt too. my email is poey2k@hotmail.com thanks

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can you send me a copy of the receipt too. my email is karl@izone.net.au thanks

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Guys,

Just receive a response from Panasonic, and this 's really holding me back

to get this panel. Here is the response:

"Thank you for taking the time to contact Panasonic with your enquiry.

The Panasonic TH-P65V10A is manufactured in China by Panasonic."

No wonder, it is cheap. In the 58V10A thread, people said that their

58" is made in Japan. This 's really confused me. Why would Panasonic

made the 58" in Japan, but the 65" in China ?

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It’s the design and production standards that matter not where the product is manufactured. Its not like Panasonic are contracting out the production to some no name Chinese manufacturer, ita a new Panasonic production facility, and one that is likely highly automated.

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It’s the design and production standards that matter not where the product is manufactured. Its not like Panasonic are contracting out the production to some no name Chinese manufacturer, ita a new Panasonic production facility, and one that is likely highly automated.

Not all parts of the process are automated, that is why the production cost is cheaper in China, due to cheap labour.

Cheap labour is not a problem. Quality control is the main problem in China factories. Also, there might be case where

genuine part is swaped with fake part (Note: this is what I assumeed, it may not be the fact). As a result, product that

comes out from China is not as good as other countries.

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The quality control standards are set by Panasonic as it’s a Panasonic facility, so if quality is lacking its Panasonics fault plain and simple.

Many of the parts and even complete assemblies used in the Japanese manufactured sets are likely made in China and elsewhere, its up to Panasonic to monitor and control parts quality from their suppliers no matter where they are based.

Just because a product is "made in Japan" does not mean the parts are as well.

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The quality control standards are set by Panasonic as it’s a Panasonic facility, so if quality is lacking its Panasonics fault plain and simple.

Many of the parts and even complete assemblies used in the Japanese manufactured sets are likely made in China and elsewhere, its up to Panasonic to monitor and control parts quality from their suppliers no matter where they are based.

Just because a product is "made in Japan" does not mean the parts are as well.

Offcourse, regardless where it is made, Panasonic will be liable for the product quality.

However, products that come from China has a quite a high rate of failing to operate,

especially just after the 1 year manufacture warrantee period. One can just simple overcome

this problem by paying extra warrantee. However, depending on the after sale service, one

might have a lot of headaches if the company provide a bad after sale service. I don't know

how good Panasonic after sale service is, but a lot of people complain about Samsung Refridgerator

division after sale service. Anyone has any experience with Panasonic after sale service and the extend

warantee service, please advice.

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Hi Guys, Well I bought them from Myers Brissy and I even check with the super friendly sale person if I can quote the price that he has given me and he said go ahead. He is the one who mentioned to me that we can lock on the the bonus item we want once it is paid in full with the receipt number. According to him the stock is yet to arrive here to Panasonic Brissy but will keep me update on my mobile and to ctc him if there are any inquiries (Excellent service). He expects the stock to reach me in around 2 weeks time. If you are living in or around brissy I highly recommend the sale person and pls pm if you need his name and contact. Btw, can anyone advise me on how to upload a picture file to the PM on the receipt thing as I am in quite rush and don't have the time to fiddle around( Sorry.. very new in the forum).

Hi SteveEJ

I'm from Brissy as well, would like to buy this TV!

would really appreciated if you can email a copy of your receipt to dozenduff@yahoo.com.au

Thank you!

tanko

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However, products that come from China has a quite a high rate of failing to operate,

especially just after the 1 year manufacture warrantee period.

That’s a generalisation; I don’t see much evidence that Chinees manufactured Panasonic TV’s are significantly less reliable than Japanese manufactured models.

There are various issues with some models, but to say that all Chinees models are inferior to all Japanese models is a stretch to say the least.

There are some VERY high end and expensive products manufactured in China by Chinese companies under contract to western companies; quality is not a problem if you pay enough to have the job done right. If you want cheap you will get cheap.

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That’s a generalisation; I don’t see much evidence that Chinees manufactured Panasonic TV’s are significantly less reliable than Japanese manufactured models.

There are various issues with some models, but to say that all Chinees models are inferior to all Japanese models is a stretch to say the least.

There are some VERY high end and expensive products manufactured in China by Chinese companies under contract to western companies; quality is not a problem if you pay enough to have the job done right. If you want cheap you will get cheap.

The product quality that came out from a country speak for itself. The 1st word comes out from the consumer mouth

is "Is it made in Japan". The 1st word that promotes a product comes out from the saleman is "This is made in Japan",

"This is made in Germany". Everyone steps back a bit when they heard "made in China". Why would everyone in the world

behave like that ? It is because of their experience on one or many of the products that they own. Not because cheap product price

made people step back, but because of the tradition long history of bad quality products that made in China. And this has

not been much changed or improved at all. I guess China economy will get much stronger if they can improve on product

quality that comes from China and hence their name. And offcourse, it is always right with "you get what you pay for".

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I think people get too hung up on where things are assembled.

"Made In Japan" is a badge of honour these days. Wasn't that long ago that Japanese-made was synonymous with cheap crap.

Some people might be surprised at just how far China has come. In my professional capacity as an electrical engineer, I have visited China to check out their manufacturing facilities (not for electronics, but for electrical gear), and I can tell you that they have their sh!t together. My ingrained worries about Chinese gear were certainly eased.

As Owen has mentioned, if Panasonic are putting their name to it then you can be pretty sure that they will be keeping an eagle eye on how it is manufactured.

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The product quality that came out from a country speak for itself. The 1st word comes out from the consumer mouth

is "Is it made in Japan". The 1st word that promotes a product comes out from the saleman is "This is made in Japan",

"This is made in Germany". Everyone steps back a bit when they heard "made in China". Why would everyone in the world

behave like that ? It is because of their experience on one or many of the products that they own. Not because cheap product price

made people step back, but because of the tradition long history of bad quality products that made in China. And this has

not been much changed or improved at all. I guess China economy will get much stronger if they can improve on product

quality that comes from China and hence their name. And offcourse, it is always right with "you get what you pay for".

You clearly have no experience of the sorts of high end products I am talking about, there is no limit to the quality available from Chinese manufacturers but quality comes at a price. If you want something cheap the Chinese can make it for you and if you want something super high quality they can make that as well but it will cost a lot more, still much less then if it where made in a western country though, and that is exactly why western company’s have things made in China. Much of the time final assembly and packing are done outside China just so a “made in xxxx” sticker can be put on the side, they don’t want to let you know you are buying a Chinese product because of the reaction that so many people like yourself would have.

It’s a changing world and people who think China is only capable of producing cheap junk are simply out of touch.

If you are so avers to purchasing a Chinese made Panasonic, better get out there and buy one of the Japanese models still on sale before they are all gone. ;)

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You clearly have no experience of the sorts of high end products I am talking about, there is no limit to the quality available from Chinese manufacturers but quality comes at a price. If you want something cheap the Chinese can make it for you and if you want something super high quality they can make that as well but it will cost a lot more, still much less then if it where made in a western country though, and that is exactly why western company’s have things made in China. Much of the time final assembly and packing are done outside China just so a “made in xxxx” sticker can be put on the side, they don’t want to let you know you are buying a Chinese product because of the reaction that so many people like yourself would have.

It’s a changing world and people who think China is only capable of producing cheap junk are simply out of touch.

If you are so avers to purchasing a Chinese made Panasonic, better get out there and buy one of the Japanese models still on sale before they are all gone. ;)

If Panasonic shift their plasma manufacturing to China, I 'll switch to other like LG or Samsung. I don't care

what high end product they have built. I only know that most of products comes out from there are junks.

And I had a painful experience with those junks.

I was shocked when looking at the 50G10A, 50S10A model a few months ago. I did not know that those was made

in China. The black plastic frame of these model looks so cheap more like a $2 toy in a reject shop rather than

a $2000 panel . At that time, I wonder what these Panasonic designer thinking in their head when they

spined out a frame like that. I only found out these 2 models being made in China last week when looking at

the 50V10A panel. I did not even ask where they are made of, the saleman just automatically told me.

luuuc,

I understand that one day China will come out of the problem with product quality, but not now. Nothing in the

market has proved to me that it has been. If Panasonic places their brand name in China to cut cost by making

the cheap looking panel like 50G10A, 50S10A model, in my opinion, they 've made a big mistake. Company brand

name can be destroyed in no time, when their product does not live with the market expectation or wrong design

in place. I have seen a number of Japanese companies losing their market shares and then the product that

stayed in the market for many many years got wiped out when the manager made a wrong decision when chosing

cheap stuff to cut cost.

Don't let the manufacturing facility fools your eye. The product quality came from the person that run those facility.

The facility can not run by itself. I do not know whether or not China company pay their workers by hour salary or

by quantity salary. If it happens to be the latter, which is the practice in most socialist countried, you bet you 'll get

the good product out of that, since the more one made the more money in the pocket and who gives a damn about

the quality. If the quality control is not in place, eg return the bad product back to the worker that made it, nothing

will be changed.

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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. It's your money mate. Do what you like with it.

You go pay an extra $500 for a Japan sticker. I'll happily keep the extra money for myself as long as I am happy with the picture quality.

We both go home happy.

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luuuc,

I understand that one day China will come out of the problem with product quality, but not now. Nothing in the

market has proved to me that it has been.

That's crap. Your just ignorant. Go out and have a look... the other fella was right; China is very capable of producing excellent gear.

NAD Master Series gear is now manufactured in china. And it's made like a battle tank with superb finish. Every review I've seen has said the same thing; superb build.

Many other high-end-brands manufacture in China and many produce gear of excellent quality costing in the tens of thousands.

Just because YOU haven't seen any doesn't mean there aren't any!

As the other guy said, China can produce at a cost but they can also produce excellent stuff if they are paid to.

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That's crap. Your just ignorant. Go out and have a look... the other fella was right; China is very capable of producing excellent gear.

NAD Master Series gear is now manufactured in china. And it's made like a battle tank with superb finish. Every review I've seen has said the same thing; superb build.

Many other high-end-brands manufacture in China and many produce gear of excellent quality costing in the tens of thousands.

Just because YOU haven't seen any doesn't mean there aren't any!

As the other guy said, China can produce at a cost but they can also produce excellent stuff if they are paid to.

Suit youself, go out and buy all the China made, that 'll save you a lot of money.

"China is very capable of producing excellent gear" Oh yeah....!!... Consider I 'm stupid,

but I 'll rather spend extra $500 to buy the sticker than pay thousand of dollars for thing

that look like a $2 reject shop toy.

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The “S” and “G” series Panasonics look the way they do by design, they use the materials specified by Panasonic, tooling provide by Panasonic, production processes and standards implemented by Panasonic using staff trained by Panasonic. You could manufacture them anywhere and they would look identical.

If the “V” series where made in China they would be indistinguishable from the Japanese made units except for a sticker that says “Made in China”.

I think you will find the cost price difference between a 65” Plasma TV manufactured in Japan to the same model manufactured in China is a lot more than $500, retail pricing is dictated by what the market will tolerate NOT manufacturing cost, its all about making a profit.

I expect the price of the 65” Panasonic to fall significantly as they are over priced in Oz and there is a lot of room for price cuts.

All TV’s are now made down to a price, the market is not prepared to pay for truly high quality models, just ask Pioneer.

I personally think all Panasonics are limited by shortcuts in design due to cost and it has prevented me from buying one. I have no doubt they could build a display better than a Kuro if they wanted to but it would cost money and the market has said loud and clear they will not pay.

If you want a TV with a stylish high quality look you had better consider the Korean offerings from LG and Samsung, they make all the Panasonics look cheap.

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If you want a TV with a stylish high quality look you had better consider the Korean offerings from LG and Samsung, they make all the Panasonics look cheap.

Anyone care to comment on this quote??? Lets forget about the whole China Vs Japan thing & talk about the actual Plasma itself. Personally I think it will be very good, value for money & will sell well

Edited by manc01

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Anyone care to comment on this quote??? Lets forget about the whole China Vs Japan thing & talk about the actual Plasma itself. Personally I think it will be very good, value for money & will sell well

Yes it will be good value, and if the 65” S series comes here it should be even better value.

It’s a pity Panasonic are not interested in offering a model with a decent screen filter for a few hundred dollars extra like Samsung.

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If Panasonic shift their plasma manufacturing to China, I 'll switch to other like LG or Samsung.

Panasonic have been assembling plasmas in China for at least two years now - look at the PX7/70A models.

I believe the plasma glass panels are still made in Panasonic's massive Japanese factories though

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Yes it will be good value, and if the 65” S series comes here it should be even better value.

It’s a pity Panasonic are not interested in offering a model with a decent screen filter for a few hundred dollars extra like Samsung.

All too true Owen. I'm keen to see if they will sell an 'S' series equivalent out here, but it would be nice if the 'V' series got some better screen filters too!

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"China is very capable of producing excellent gear" Oh yeah....!!... Consider I 'm stupid,

I think you have surmised yourself pretty well. As the others have said, you are just ignorant and have no clue of whats reality. You shouldn't even be in this thread since this model should not even be a consideration for you, so suggest you check out other threads like LG, Samsung etc.

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Anyone care to comment on this quote??? Lets forget about the whole China Vs Japan thing & talk about the actual Plasma itself. Personally I think it will be very good, value for money & will sell well

Yes

There was nothing stylish about Pioneers' plasma's that set them apart from the pack.

Yes Samsung and LG make very attractive looking sets but I wouldn't buy LG even if they were selling at half the price of Pana's..

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