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Used to do a fair bit of photography, not that I was great at it, but enjoyed it a lot and had a reasonable Canon SLR. Then came digital and I bought a Canon digital camera with a zoom lens early on. While it was so convenient it really didn't impress me the photos coming from it. So I still used my 35mm but more and more left the photography to my wife and her point and shoot.

Then the other day I Picked up a Canon 600D for the unrepeatable price of $0. Well I had some credits left over from an insurance claim and it seemed to fit the bill. Would have liked to have gone up a model or two in their range, but given it almost perfectly matched the credit I had remaining at its wholesale price (believe me people you don't want to know what the mark-up on these and more especially the new HT gear really is :o ) I settled for the 600. Only picked up the body as I already have some old EOS lenses from my SLR. Now though I need to go get a good wide angle lens as my zoom lenses are good enough until I want to replace them (perhaps Christmas) but I have no wide angle anymore.

Is there any advantage buying them duty free or from Singapore as I will be over there in a few weeks? Or can you get just as good a deal as the 10% off that Duty Free is anyway and the Warranty makes the Singapore idea less attractive? Are Canon wide angle lenses the way to go or is there a better substitute lens these days?

There is a good Camera shop nearby and I might try to stop in there over the next week and take a look.

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Congrats to your son FMB.

I think that actually puts him in first place in advanced class in Qld with one round to go. Ahead of the guy who has spent over $50k on his system.

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Out of interest is there anywhere that film is still be used, or is it all digital now?

It took the 5DMk3 and the Nikon D3s (IIRC) to make digital on par with analog for 35mm... And that's only in my view. There are folks who still think digital is not good enough (e.g. the lens coating on modern lens that prevents DSLR sensor from reflections somehow affects the PQ apparently)...

There's a few who still use film (and using expired stock :P)... Take pics, develop in home darkroom, high quality scanner, then pp... It is really cool to do it the old school way (but need room to do it)..

Then there's also medium format (digital versions are still quite expensive)... On pure quality wise, film is still pretty darn good (and the gear is cheap on ebay).. But it's not everybody's cup of tea :ninja:...

Is there any advantage buying them duty free or from Singapore as I will be over there in a few weeks? Or can you get just as good a deal as the 10% off that Duty Free is anyway and the Warranty makes the Singapore idea less attractive?

Don't think prices in Singapore are all that attractive IMO.. Me find HK is cheaper than Singapore... But it's hard to bargain for prices in HK as the mainland Chinese have way too much buying power.

Also bear in mind Canon Au may well only do warranty repair on AU stock from Sept 1.

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Used to do a fair bit of photography, not that I was great at it, but enjoyed it a lot and had a reasonable Canon SLR. Then came digital and I bought a Canon digital camera with a zoom lens early on. While it was so convenient it really didn't impress me the photos coming from it. So I still used my 35mm but more and more left the photography to my wife and her point and shoot.

Then the other day I Picked up a Canon 600D for the unrepeatable price of $0. Well I had some credits left over from an insurance claim and it seemed to fit the bill. Would have liked to have gone up a model or two in their range, but given it almost perfectly matched the credit I had remaining at its wholesale price (believe me people you don't want to know what the mark-up on these and more especially the new HT gear really is :o ) I settled for the 600. Only picked up the body as I already have some old EOS lenses from my SLR. Now though I need to go get a good wide angle lens as my zoom lenses are good enough until I want to replace them (perhaps Christmas) but I have no wide angle anymore.

Is there any advantage buying them duty free or from Singapore as I will be over there in a few weeks? Or can you get just as good a deal as the 10% off that Duty Free is anyway and the Warranty makes the Singapore idea less attractive? Are Canon wide angle lenses the way to go or is there a better substitute lens these days?

There is a good Camera shop nearby and I might try to stop in there over the next week and take a look.

sdl, I was a bit similar in having a few film slrs and then moving across to digital. was quite a while before I could afford a digital slr. It is great the lenses work and is what I kept as well. In wides depends what you want. in my opinion I would stay away from the light weight kit lenses they throw in. But all comes down to how much want to spend I guess. the way I look at it camera bodies now days come and go. and it is there that there is the most advances and innovation these days. And something I've found in last 3 generations of canon digital slr bodies I have owned over last 8 years. So my suggestion put your money in to lenses if you can. they will stay with you a long long time. but yeah again depends how much want to spend but two lenses I think do a great job are the 20-35 and 17-40L and if you are buying from overseas they arent a lot of money at all in scheme of things,

keep in mind with 1.6x crop factor of your camera wide lenses are more a normal field of view :)

i would check prices from overseas and grey local before contemplating duty free, you might be surprised,

check the following grey local

http://www.d-d-photographics.com.au

http://www.becextech.com.au/catalog/index.php

http://www.dwidigitalcameras.com.au/store/index.asp?

and also this overseas retailer

http://www.t-dimension.com/revamp/

locally ofcourse check out usual suspects, camera action, teds on elizabeth street. keeping in mind it appears we no longer have international warranties on lenses if that is a factor for you :)

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It took the 5DMk3 and the Nikon D3s (IIRC) to make digital on par with analog for 35mm... And that's only in my view. There are folks who still think digital is not good enough (e.g. the lens coating on modern lens that prevents DSLR sensor from reflections somehow affects the PQ apparently)...

There's a few who still use film (and using expired stock :P)... Take pics, develop in home darkroom, high quality scanner, then pp... It is really cool to do it the old school way (but need room to do it)..

Then there's also medium format (digital versions are still quite expensive)... On pure quality wise, film is still pretty darn good (and the gear is cheap on ebay).. But it's not everybody's cup of tea :ninja:...

Don't think prices in Singapore are all that attractive IMO.. Me find HK is cheaper than Singapore... But it's hard to bargain for prices in HK as the mainland Chinese have way too much buying power.

Also bear in mind Canon Au may well only do warranty repair on AU stock from Sept 1.

I dissagree with the statement it takes a 5Dmk3 or Nikon D3 to make digital on par with film 35mm. When I saw photographer using a canon 10D with a 24-70 2.8L at my wedding in 1994 and the quality of end result and post processing he could do I realised film had been surpassed back then. Was then I saved up and bought a 10D myself and never looked back.

there are some film die hards out there sure who will hang in there. and will get great results am sure but for mere mortals like myself film is long gone as buried :P

now if we were talking medium and large format film photography that would be a whole another discussion....

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I dissagree with the statement it takes a 5Dmk3 or Nikon D3 to make digital on par with film 35mm. When I saw photographer using a canon 10D with a 24-70 2.8L at my wedding in 1994 and the quality of end result and post processing he could do I realised film had been surpassed back then. Was then I saved up and bought a 10D myself and never looked back.

Probably true... It's more a subjective assessment from me I guess..

there are some film die hards out there sure who will hang in the

re. and will get great results am sure but for mere mortals like myself film is long gone as buried :P

+1.. Not for everybody, definitely not for me... :blush: I'd be eating film like crazy figuratively (and no space in the fridge :ninja:)... The thing with film is it requires a lot more stuffs (dark room, chems, scanner, PC, etc).. With digital, all I need is a PC and a printer.

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+1.. Not for everybody, definitely not for me... :blush: I'd be eating film like crazy figuratively (and no space in the fridge :ninja:)... The thing with film is it requires a lot more stuffs (dark room, chems, scanner, PC, etc).. With digital, all I need is a PC and a printer.

yeah well towards the end of film days for me I had a minolta scanner a really good one and was doing huge scans of negatives. But it was a painfull process would take ages and then youd end up with problems of little dust particles or fibres that the scanner would pick up. once I saw what the 10D was capable off was very easy to change over. mind you the 10D cost a packet back then ! the 40D I got some years later was a quantum up in speed, low light / iso ability. and the 7D was another huge leap up again. so in my mind digital is a huge leap forward from what I could achieve with film. it is literally chalk and cheese. and thats putting aside all the useability with digital. basically everything at my finger tips vs film where was very much in the hands of the developer/processor and kind of film used.

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That whole scanning of negatives (and prints) is why I gave up on photography. I had a pretty expensive scanner, Photo$hop & everything that was required - except high quality digital images. (The camera at the time as an EOS 50(?).)

About four years ago I bought my first PhD camera. I was pretty impressed but not to the "lets get back into it" level. As that camera was pretty clunky (was about the size of TWO cigarette packets), I bought a new one. That took a better image and, well, many $1000's later I'm where I wanted to be all those years ago.

To those reading this - STOP!!!! You are already involved in a VERY expensive hobby addiction (AV gear) - don't go down the path I have and add photography to that list! :ninja:

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Partial EXIF data, A then B

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One of the pics my son took on Saturday. This is a very small version of the image I downloaded from FaceBook. I'll download the full version from the SD card when I get home.

Linky

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The Hornets just don't look as good as the old F-111 with their 'dump and burn' flame thrower rear end.

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ps have posted a few from film days was snapping away on my canon film slr getting negatives developed and then scanning in.

That just solidifies my view film is better.. :P Those are great pics!!!! (kudos to FMB and bushy too)

And I reckon one can get similar qualities in 5D2 (and hopefully 5D3)... :ninja: But do agree it's PITA wrt to film...

Do you have any B&W pics from your film days?

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That just solidifies my view film is better.. :P Those are great pics!!!! (kudos to FMB and bushy too)

And I reckon one can get similar qualities in 5D2 (and hopefully 5D3)... :ninja: But do agree it's PITA wrt to film...

Do you have any B&W pics from your film days?

hehe, thanks, but yeah lot of that is location and lighting, time of the year. so yeah a lot of good luck !

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Do you have any B&W pics from your film days?

I never much phtographed in B&W apart from when I was a kid. the few negatives I have from then too big to scan in (they were from my grandads camera, that I got when he passed away). I do have B&W negatives have scanned in that others took when I was a child with my mum etc. and they are lovely to see. watching them on a big screen now is like a time machine. we have some old colour slides as well I have scanned in from back then of family and they are lovely too :(

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It took the 5DMk3 and the Nikon D3s (IIRC) to make digital on par with analog for 35mm...

5D MkIII is not yet available treb - and the rumours about it appearing this year are getting more and more outnumbered by the rumours that it will be released toward the end of next year (due to tsunami effects in Japan it is claimed).

Anyway, I've decided to jump in and buy the MkII now and will uprade to the MkIII if and when it is released.

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Anyway, I've decided to jump in and buy the MkII now and will uprade to the MkIII if and when it is released.

Why not wait for the Mk3 and buy the Mk2 on runout? :P Will save quite a fair bit of money that way.

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Making a list of things I can ask for for my birthday. What do you guys think of remotes like this one?

Yep, can recommend - got one myself. Make sure your get the "Canon" version - the little boxes are the same but the cable is different for each brand of camera.

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Yep, can recommend - got one myself. Make sure your get the "Canon" version - the little boxes are the same but the cable is different for each brand of camera.

umm...why would I get the Canon version when I own a Nikon?

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umm...why would I get the Canon version when I own a Nikon?

Because you're going to wake up to yourself and get a good camera! :lol:

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Why not wait for the Mk3 and buy the Mk2 on runout? :P Will save quite a fair bit of money that way.

Simple, don't want to wait.

Or, to put it another way, have been waiting since 2004 when I bought an EOS300D

Or, to put it another way, have been waiting since 1997 when a dodgy South American nicked my AE-1 Program from my luggage in Lima (the AE-1 was the last really satisfying SLR I owned).

In other words, I'm sick of waiting!

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In other words, I'm sick of waiting!

That's a good enough reason I guess.. Due to the earthquake in Japan, don't think 5D3 will be around until 2012 at least... So yeah.. Do consider the 7D too though, try both and find which one suits you better...

Enjoy!! :) Wish I'm as decisive as you, I tend to procrastinate.. :huh:

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Simple, don't want to wait.

Or, to put it another way, have been waiting since 2004 when I bought an EOS300D

I've had my trusty 300D just alittle longer than you and am looking for my upgrade model too. Though, I'm still waiting... :P

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I've had my trusty 300D just alittle longer than you and am looking for my upgrade model too. Though, I'm still waiting... :P

guys, if have waited so long. whats a bit longer. a 5D3 is coming...its either late this year early 2012. matter of months really ... :D

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