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Who cares if the guys not an installer anymore he can still voice hes opinion on here. We all need to stick together and fight these shonky cowboy companies who treat subbies like complete crap...

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I'm not a contractor but a long time customer.

GF and I both work long hours on weekdays and find it hard to be at home for a choice of am or pm periods waiting for an installer.

On installing Foxtel and moving house, 1 install and 4 moves in 8 years, I have always requested "next available Saturday" when I contact Foxtel. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

When F&P guy came to fix my fridge I asked for a Sat as well. When the Smeg warranty guy fixed the microwave it was during the week between Christmas and New Year (the microwave crapped out on Christmas day) - we didn't make a song and dance and demand it that was just the service that was provided.

Weekend times are convenient for a lot of people.

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Weekend times are convenient for a lot of people.

It is understandable that most of customer prefer weekends installation, but BSA is trying to force technicians to work even on Sundays without any extra pay. Couple of years ago BSA was paying extra $20-50 per job on Sunday, but now they are trying to screw techs more and more and not paying any extra at all.

I will not be suprised that BSA is getting more $$$ from Foxtel for weekends jobs and not passing extra pay to installers.

It looks like BSA is trying to tell Foxtel, " .... look, we can make/force out techs/slaves to work on Sundays for the same money, just give us more jobs than to Downer, otherwise , we (=BSA), are so small and struggling at the moment, that we won't make $0.5mil wages to pay our Mark F. this year"

Edited by Sidor

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Well said. It is down't right unAUSTRALIAN to be ignoring our families and setting of to work on SUNDAYS. No penalty rates, only an assurance that you will get your QUOTA. This is BSA driven, trying to position themselves for a fair crack at the next contract offer. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE FOR THE REST OF YOUR WORKING LIFE? Rememder what our parents fought for. Remember our RIGHTS. You Sunday workers obviously don't.

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Who cares if the guys not an installer anymore he can still voice hes opinion on here. We all need to stick together and fight these shonky cowboy companies who treat subbies like complete crap...

Well actually, it was due to him that the last thread was deleted.

Didn't want to see that happen again.

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Well actually, it was due to him that the last thread was deleted.

Didn't want to see that happen again.

The last thread was deleted due to Sidor and his ability to not understand, lets not have that happen again.

Edited by Frost-6

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Who cares if the guys not an installer anymore he can still voice hes opinion on here. We all need to stick together and fight these shonky cowboy companies who treat subbies like complete crap...

On his say so he may be an ex installer and entitled to voice an opinion on a public forum but it is my understanding that amongst other things this thread was created with the intention of airing common grievances suffered by pay tv installers, to devise effective means to combat the exploitative tactics used by contracting companies and provide a support group of sorts.

The entity known as frost 6 has done none of this, indeed he has achieved the opposite. Far from agreeing with the lot of most installers and supporting their claims he has consistently debunked installers complaints regarding pay rates and work schedules citing his own completion rates that stretch incredulity given the demands imposed by the contracting companies. He has consistently applauded the business decisions of the contracting companies to further reduce pay rates and impose harsher working conditions. In another thread he has publicly stated his intention to try and have the installation job on his own premises downgraded, effectively reducing the installers pay. It also appears that he has played an active role in having the previous installers thread closed down because he disagrees with others not agreeing with him. If he is helping us stick together its an odd way of showing it to say the least.

I fail to see how this person can make a positive contribution here and on the face of it is an apologist for the contracting companies and their ethics. Despite clearly being out of step with the sentiments expressed by genuine installers, frost 6 continues to bait and troll. Instead of contributing in a manner which helps pay tv installers with their grievances his actions seem to be designed to goad others into making personal attacks which are used as justification to close the thread and prevent online gatherings of installers discussing their issues. One of the ways to fight these companies is to make it publicly known that they are absolute scumbags and to discourage others from working for them. Contacting companies would be highly displeased at installers voicing the truth here and scaring other candidates off. Anyone who actively seeks to undermine the aims of this forum while claiming to have been an installer is extremely suspect in my opinion

The only solution is to get completely away from sites such as the DTV forum and create a moderated forum exclusively for like minded installers. Ratbags would get sick of having their posts deleted

DTV Forum also appears to be sympathetic to the contracting companies given their apparent willingness to abruptly delete an installers thread without warning. Maybe it is industry sponsored and as such would have a vested interest in stifling discussion

Edited by Eddy Current

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On his say so he may be an ex installer and entitled to voice an opinion on a public forum but it is my understanding that amongst other things this thread was created with the intention of airing common grievances suffered by pay tv installers, to devise effective means to combat the exploitative tactics used by contracting companies and provide a support group of sorts.

The entity known as frost 6 has done none of this, indeed he has achieved the opposite. Far from agreeing with the lot of most installers and supporting their claims he has consistently debunked installers complaints regarding pay rates and work schedules citing his own completion rates that stretch incredulity given the demands imposed by the contracting companies. He has consistently applauded the business decisions of the contracting companies to further reduce pay rates and impose harsher working conditions. In another thread he has publicly stated his intention to try and have the installation job on his own premises downgraded, effectively reducing the installers pay. It also appears that he has played an active role in having the previous installers thread closed down because he disagrees with others not agreeing with him. If he is helping us stick together its an odd way of showing it to say the least.

I fail to see how this person can make a positive contribution here and on the face of it is an apologist for the contracting companies and their ethics. Despite clearly being out of step with the sentiments expressed by genuine installers, frost 6 continues to bait and troll. Instead of contributing in a manner which helps pay tv installers with their grievances his actions seem to be designed to goad others into making personal attacks which are used as justification to close the thread and prevent online gatherings of installers discussing their issues. One of the ways to fight these companies is to make it publicly known that they are absolute scumbags and to discourage others from working for them. Contacting companies would be highly displeased at installers voicing the truth here and scaring other candidates off. Anyone who actively seeks to undermine the aims of this forum while claiming to have been an installer is extremely suspect in my opinion

The only solution is to get completely away from sites such as the DTV forum and create a moderated forum exclusively for like minded installers. Ratbags would get sick of having their posts deleted

DTV Forum also appears to be sympathetic to the contracting companies given their apparent willingness to abruptly delete an installers thread without warning. Maybe it is industry sponsored and as such would have a vested interest in stifling discussion

Lovely post, I'll reframe from a long just reply because the maturity of some people on this forum, who are the Current or Ex Lazy Techs who are the ones always complaining to Jep or the QAs causing it to be harder for the Techs who just want to do the job.

Think what you want your entitled to it.

Ciao

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So how many people in this thread are current Foxtel Installers, contracting Directly to the Contracting companies, BSA and Downer? and not working for contractors of the 2 listed companys or ex contractors?

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So how many people in this thread are current Foxtel Installers, contracting Directly to the Contracting companies, BSA and Downer? and not working for contractors of the 2 listed companys or ex contractors?

what exactly do you want to know ?

I have got a mate who is contractor to BSA and is struggling to make $1000 a week at the moment before paying all the insurances, petrol, mobile phone and now PDA.

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what exactly do you want to know ?

Methinks he wants to tell his best buddy BSA who's ratting them out in this forum.

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