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Just let me know what you think of this little tweak.

PQ is good but not perfect..

Yesterday, I got samsung techie to come and look @ the light bleed, this is the setting he did and PQ has improved dramatically-

Mode: Movie

Colour Tone: Warm2

Backlight: 3

Contrast: 80

Brightness: 40

Sharpness: 0

Colour: 50

Tint: 50/50

White Balance

R-Offset: 27

G-Offset: 28

B-Offset: 25

R-Gain: 38

G-Gain: 24

B-Gain: 21

Colour Space: custom

Red: red 35, green 0, blue 0

Green: red 53, green 50, blue 3

Blue: red 0, green 0, blue 50

Yellow: red 55, green 50, blue 8

Cyan: red 50, green 50, blue 50

Magenta: red 40, green 8, blue 55

Edge enhancement / motion plus etc etc...... all switched off

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PICTURE MENU

Mode MOVIE

Backlight 3

Contrast 89

Brightness 49

Sharpness 0

Color 48

Tint 48/52

ADVANCED MENU

Black Tone OFF

Dynamic Contrast OFF

Gamma -3

Color Space AUTO

Flesh Tone 0

Edge Enhancement OFF

Xvycc OFF

WHITE BALANCE SUB-MENU

Red Offset 23

Green Offset 23

Blue Offset 23

Red Gain 30

Green Gain 26

Blue Gain 34

PICTURE OPTIONS SUB-MENU

Color Tone WARM2

Size Screen FIT

Digital NR OFF

HDMI Black Level NORMAL

Film Mode OFF

Blue Only Mode OFF

Auto Motion 120Hz Plus

Blur Reduction 10

Judder Reduction 0

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Well had the TV Tec come out and have a look at the problems today. He stated Samsung are aware of the problems and the Telly needs a new screen !!!!

Why on earth are they selling them then ?

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Could you tell me how much you paid for this tv?

As some of you can remember my many exploits into displays I thought of sharing my next adventure .

I've had this TV running now for over a week.

Good Points

1, Once the picture is adjusted (contrast, colour etc.) its just jaw dropping !

2. The SD and Foxtel PQ up scaling is the best I ever seen.

3. Huge about of HDMI inputs 4 in total.

4. The blacks are on a par the my Pioneer.

Bad points

1. There are clouding issues on black backgrounds ( with a bit of adjusting its almost gone)

2. I've got 4 dark corners on white back grounds.

3. The off axis colour viewing is just horrible ( it just keeps getting white washed )

4. The speakers are worthless

5. No headphone input.

6. Is Samsung really serious about the settings they have put on this tv out of the box? Let me tell you that they are the worst I have seen on a telly .

I've got the service guy coming out to day. As fussy as I am if they can improve the off axis colour viewing this one is a keeper.

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Why on earth are they selling them then ?

You would not believe how many people would not have picked it up.

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Could you tell me how much you paid for this tv?

Its not cheap with a extended 5 year warranty and 12 months interest free it cost me $5500.

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PQ is good but not perfect..

Yesterday, I got samsung techie to come and look @ the light bleed, this is the setting he did and PQ has improved dramatically-

Mode: Movie

Colour Tone: Warm2

Backlight: 3

Contrast: 80

Brightness: 40

Sharpness: 0

Colour: 50

Tint: 50/50

White Balance

R-Offset: 27

G-Offset: 28

B-Offset: 25

R-Gain: 38

G-Gain: 24

B-Gain: 21

Colour Space: custom

Red: red 35, green 0, blue 0

Green: red 53, green 50, blue 3

Blue: red 0, green 0, blue 50

Yellow: red 55, green 50, blue 8

Cyan: red 50, green 50, blue 50

Magenta: red 40, green 8, blue 55

Edge enhancement / motion plus etc etc...... all switched off

I like your settings only I turned the sharpness up to 40 as it gave that "POP" look which I like.

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I have observed the black bars on a wide aspect ratio movie on Samsung edge lit LCD's and found them FAR from impressive. Since the LCD panel is the same as any other Sammy LCD that's not surprising. Changing the light source on an LCD does absolutely nothing to alter contrast ratio.

That could be source related though... Some BDs' black bars seems greyish (IIRC - UnderWorld, Matrix, POTC, Kill Bills), and others like (RedCliff, Fearless, Casino Royale etc) is black...

My BD player and TV can't do multiple video/colour adjustments so it's kind of PITA.

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I like your settings only I turned the sharpness up to 40 as it gave that "POP" look which I like.

Are u getting the light bleeds on the corners ? with these settings it helps but I can still see light bleeds on all four corners ... time to get it replaced i suppose

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Are u getting the light bleeds on the corners ? with these settings it helps but I can still see light bleeds on all four corners ... time to get it replaced i suppose

Yep still getting the light bleeds. However I'm going to persevere as I like the Telly !

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That could be source related though... Some BDs' black bars seems greyish (IIRC - UnderWorld, Matrix, POTC, Kill Bills), and others like (RedCliff, Fearless, Casino Royale etc) is black...

My BD player and TV can't do multiple video/colour adjustments so it's kind of PITA.

The same source was displayed on all the Samsung panels and the LED models where inferior for black level because the back light is brighter and the contrast ratio of the LCD panel is the same.

With the back lighting adjusted to be the same brightness on both conventional LCD’s and the edge lit LED models black level will be the same on both, however screen uniformity (clouding patterns) are quite different.

People seem to be attracted to the brightness of the LED models like moths to a flame, and if they think it’s an improvement that’s fine. Personally I think normal LCD’s have way more light output then is desirable in most viewing situations, the LED models are completely over the top and look farcically unrealistic unless they are dimmed down a lot, if you do that then you may as well buy a normal LCD.

It’s very unwise to do any picture adjustments in a source device like a Bluray player, do ALL adjustments via the display.

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The ONLY LCD’s that can provide good “in scene” contrast are the local dimming type, end of story.

Which are these???

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Samsung series 9 and the Sony XBR45 series, which is by FAR the best.

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Well the repair guy has said he is waiting on an answer from Samsung, I know I'm well in my rights to ask for my money back. Although what else can I get which even comes close... nothing .

So its going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

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Samsung series 9 and the Sony XBR45 series, which is by FAR the best.

so Owen what would your recommendation be between a local dimming LED panel and a Panasonic G10? Obviously there's a substantial price difference, and blacks may not be up to your standard on either, but I'd be interested to hear which you'd choose over the other. Or are they pretty similar in terms of blacks and it is up to the consumer whether they prefer the LCD or plasma look?

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Well had the TV Tec come out and have a look at the problems today. He stated Samsung are aware of the problems and the Telly needs a new screen !!!! I reckon if a brick fell out of the sky it would hit me first.

There really is a case of deja vous about me and televisions. :wacko:

I'm curious on how this technician came to this conclusion. I have installed a qty of models in the LED panels and the viewing angle has been atrocious on all of them to say the least. A few of them have been returned to the retailers over here for this reason alone. Plasmas were purchased instead. So it may appear a replacement will yield no better result. Shame really. Do you still have the SXRD I sold you a few years ago? Duh, I sure it would be long gone now with many other panels to supercede it, the Groover way! :D

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Well the repair guy has said he is waiting on an answer from Samsung, I know I'm well in my rights to ask for my money back. Although what else can I get which even comes close... nothing .

So its going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

I bet if you put some effort in to it Angelo [ as you normally do ] you could source a Pioneer LX609A it will be worth it ;)

cheers laurie

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I bet if you put some effort in to it Angelo [ as you normally do ] you could source a Pioneer LX609A it will be worth it ;)

cheers laurie

Mate I agree with you but my last Pioneer kinda left a bad taste in my mouth (and no it wasn't Carlton Blonde ). Its almost double the price as well.

Never mind I'm flying the Samsung flag (cant believe I just said that !) :lol:

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Mate I agree with you but my last Pioneer kinda left a bad taste in my mouth (and no it wasn't Carlton Blonde ). Its almost double the price as well.

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angelo, the kuro 9's dont have the red push issues of the kuro 8.

as in the link below of the lab test on the kuro 9 krp equivalent. you'll see it calibrates as good as it gets !

http://hometheatermag.com/flat-panels/pion...tor/index4.html

in my opinion if looking for other options to the sammy this would be worth checking out. they do cost a fair bit I do agree, but still worth it I reckon :)

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Never mind I'm flying the Samsung flag (cant believe I just said that !) :lol:

hehe better than flying the LG :blush: flag I guess that you were for a while over the years :P:lol:

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I have had my UA55b8000 Samsung up and running for nearly 2 weeks - so your claim of being the first one in Aus in not correct (but hey, Real Estate Agents often have great difficulty with this aspect of life).

Yeh the ua55b8000 has been available in perth since the 1st of june , so im guessing available in eastern states about 10 days before that.

But hey they probably meant the first batch in the country which is very likely.

I think it has a good picture in low light , shame the speakers are crap in these ultra thin tellys.

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angelo, the kuro 9's dont have the red push issues of the kuro 8.

as in the link below of the lab test on the kuro 9 krp equivalent. you'll see it calibrates as good as it gets !

http://hometheatermag.com/flat-panels/pion...tor/index4.html

in my opinion if looking for other options to the sammy this would be worth checking out. they do cost a fair bit I do agree, but still worth it I reckon :)

hehe better than flying the LG :blush: flag I guess that you were for a while over the years :P:lol:

Ill have a look at the new Pioneers , Id feel a lot better about them if they weren't a discontinued item though. The only LG flag I've flown is its PVR which turned out to be made by someone else. :P

Thanks for the tips bud.

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so Owen what would your recommendation be between a local dimming LED panel and a Panasonic G10? Obviously there's a substantial price difference, and blacks may not be up to your standard on either, but I'd be interested to hear which you'd choose over the other. Or are they pretty similar in terms of blacks and it is up to the consumer whether they prefer the LCD or plasma look?

Sonys XBR45 is the best LCD on the market, but it’s not cheap. Depending on the scene blacks can be better than a Kuro and colour is just as accurate as well.

LCD’s still have a look which you either like or you don’t, it’s a choice only you can make. I would go with a 63” Samsung or 65” Panasonic Plasma over a 55” Sony LCD

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Ill have a look at the new Pioneers , Id feel a lot better about them if they weren't a discontinued item though.

Everything is discontinued within a year of purchase so what’s the problem.

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So how's the UA55B8000 working out? Keeper? Is the off-axis viewing as big of a problem as others make it out to be?

For regular TV/PS3 duties in a living room which has other light sources present, would this be better or a PS58B850?

PS: we have a dedicated home theatre room for cinema-style movie viewing.

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So how's the UA55B8000 working out? Keeper? Is the off-axis viewing as big of a problem as others make it out to be?

For regular TV/PS3 duties in a living room which has other light sources present, would this be better or a PS58B850?

PS: we have a dedicated home theatre room for cinema-style movie viewing.

I've noticed mine has the worst off axis viewing of any UA55B8000 I've seen. It does vary dramatically from one UA55B8000 to another. I'm still waiting to see what Samsung is going to do about it. Ill give it another week then Ill just ask Myers for my money back.

I really don't like the PQ on the PS58B850 compared to the UA55B8000 though. I would wait to see what else Sammy brings out as I'm now a big fan of their LCD TV PQ.

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