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The 2009 range is now on Panasonic .au site with RRP and In Store dates.

http://panasonic.com.au/products/category.cfm?objectID=46

No mention of V10 and Z1 range and a small wait til June before G10 series 50", but May for 46" 42".

Not much fanfare.. I expect some snazzy info off the main website soon much like the glossy info from overseas. I suppose this is pre official launch information.

I did notice that all specs come with the new Australian power rating... seems new models lie somewhere between 2.5 stars and 2 stars, but it's hard to know what that means at present and how these will compare with other brands and LCDs.

I'll just have to boost the vege garden to offset a movie's power consumption!

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I did notice that all specs come with the new Australian power rating... seems new models lie somewhere between 2.5 stars and 2 stars, but it's hard to know what that means at present and how these will compare with other brands and LCDs.

That's suprising. I thought (don't know why) that they would be 3-3.5 stars at least. Guess that makes my 3year old 50" plasma the equivalent to a big yank tank like a Dodge Ram or Ford F250 :o

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The 2009 range is now on Panasonic .au site with RRP and In Store dates.

Blast! no mention of a 58 inch, and even the 54 inch won't be out till October.

What is it with Panasonic Australia and the big sets? For any size over a 50 it’s like they really want people to go and buy Samsung.

Edit; also see Smarthouse story, here.

Edited by stroltz

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Its a bit of a surprise to see the new 50G10 RRP $100 less than the outgoing 50PZ850 ($3.9k vs $3.8k). Based on street prices for the PZ850 of about $2850 when they were still available last year that should translate to about $2750 for the 50G10 when the fanfare settles down. As the 50S10 seems to be the replacement for the 50PZ80 I am estimating the RRP for the 50S10 at $2999 and street prices of under $2.5k. These are a lot closer to the prices that I am comfortable with than the prices the X10 range are going for at present. The 42PX8 was available quite regularly for $999 and on the odd occasion a bit less. The 42X10 is currently around the $1600 mark for virtually the same product - that’s rampant opportunism on the back of a new model!

I am also disappointed to not see the G15 range and larger than 50" G10's up there, but that may follow when details of the V10 and Z1 become available.

Does anyone have the energy to arrange a Group Buy on the G10?

Edited by Bertzz

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Does anyone have the energy to arrange a Group Buy on the G10?

If you can wait a few months, you'll match or better any current GB price

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Blast! no mention of a 58 inch, and even the 54 inch won't be out till October.

What is it with Panasonic Australia and the big sets? For any size over a 50 it’s like they really want people to go and buy Samsung.

Edit; also see Smarthouse story, here.

Damn, was hoping to get a 54" V10, looks like that is not going to happen :(

I might set the Z1 if that is the case.

Group Buy ? ;)

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Blast! no mention of a 58 inch, and even the 54 inch won't be out till October.

What is it with Panasonic Australia and the big sets? For any size over a 50 it’s like they really want people to go and buy Samsung.

This has always been Panasonics MO. Bring out the volume sellers first (42"-50") and then bring the larger screens in later. They can only make so many panels out of one sheet of glass, so they can get more models on show room floors buy sticking to the smaller sizes.

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The P42S10A and P42G10A seem to have the exact same specs when you attempt to compare them... anyone know what the differences between the two are (I know the S is meant to replace the Z80 and the G the Z800, but any firmer details?).

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Panasonic's comparison pages should get better with time. The G series should have VieraCast, the S will not

VIERA Plasma HDTV

Z1 Series

The flagship VIERA plasma in 2009 is the Z1 series, with an one inch thin panel design and Wireless HD connectivity. Also included on the VIERA Z1 is VIERA CAST web menu with the new streaming HD movie rental capability via Amazon Video-on-Demand. The Neo PDP design of the VIERA Z1 produces a brighter picture, deeper blacks, improved native contrast ratio (40,000:1) and Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution. Other Z1 model features include;1080p resolution, a THX Certified Display; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; and VIERA Link, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The Z1 series will be available in the summer of 2009 in the new TC-54Z1, 54-inch class screen size (54" measured diagonally).

V10 Series

The VIERA V10 series are slim, 2-inch thin plasma HDTVs with built-in tuners. The V10 series offer Digital Cinema Color which helps to deliver all movie-essential colors, full THX Display certification, and the VIERA CAST web menu with Amazon Video on Demand services. The Neo PDP design of the V10 series features 1080p resolution; improved native contrast ratio of 40,000:1; Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Link, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The V10 series is available in a 65-inch class (64.8" measured diagonally), 58-inch class (58" measured diagonally), 54-inch class (54" measured diagonally), and a 50-inch class (49.9" measured diagonally) screen size. The 50-inch model with one-sheet-of-glass design will be available in May 2009 and the remaining models will be available in the summer of 2009.

G10 Series

The VIERA G10 Plasma series include features like the VIERA CAST web menu, a THX certified Display, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The NEO PDP design of the G10 series also offers 1080p resolution, native contrast ratio of 40,000:1, Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution, an Infinite Black panel, 600Hz Sub-field Drive, as well as Game Mode and VIERA Link. The G10 series will be available in a 54-inch class (54" measured diagonally), 50-inch class (49.9" measured diagonally), 46-inch class (46" measured diagonally), and 42-inch class (41.6" measured diagonally) screen size. The 42-inch, 46-inch and 50-inch HDTVs will be available in March 2009, while the 54-inch model will be available in May 2009.

S1 Series

The VIERA S1 Plasma series offers a broad range of HDTVs which also represent the first VIERA plasma series to feature the new NEO PDP designs. Key features of the S1 series include Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution, which eliminate traditional HDTV motion blur. The S1 series also feature THX certified displays together with VIERA Image Viewer. Other features include 1080p resolution; a native contrast ratio of 40,000:1; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; and a Game Mode. The S1 series will compliment the V10 65" screen size with its own 65-inch class (64.7" measured diagonally) product. Other S1 sizes include a 58-inch class (58" measured diagonally), a 54-inch class (54" measured diagonally), a 50-inch class (49.9" measured diagonally), a 46-inch class (46? measured diagonally), and a 42-inch class (41.6" measured diagonally). The 42-inch, 46-inch and 50-inch HDTVs will be available in March 2009 while the 54-inch will be available in the summer of 2009.

X1 Series

Panasonic's focus in 2009 continues to be on high definition 1080p HDTVs but the VIERA X1 series represent a line of 720p plasma HDTVs which help Panasonic deliver on its promise to satisfy consumer demands for differing HDTV resolution options. The X1 VIERA HDTVs offer stunning picture performance with a 600Hz Sub-field Drive that delivers razor-sharp motion focus, VIERA Image Viewer for sharing digital photos with friends and family, and VIERA Link control of all compatible A/V home entertainment components via a single remote. The X1 series also feature improved native contrast ratio of 30,000:1, an Infinite Black panel, and a Game Mode. The VIERA X1 plasmas are available in a 50-inch class (49.9" measured diagonally) and 42-inch class (41.6" measured diagonally).

Actually, if you look here, they also have an "A" and "X15" series (LCD) and "C" series (plasma) lines as well

Edited by diesel

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This has always been Panasonics MO. Bring out the volume sellers first (42"-50") and then bring the larger screens in later. They can only make so many panels out of one sheet of glass, so they can get more models on show room floors buy sticking to the smaller sizes.

Yes, but it would have been nice to get some info on the 2009 58 and 65 inch sets. In the 2008 new TV press release we got a model number, a month and a TBA on the price. This year (so far) nada. I only ask for the same amount of info as Panasonic USA gives.

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Panasonic have recently released their new 65" Pro panel in Australia. It is now listed in the commercial area of their web site. It has been available overseas for about 4 months.

The model number is th-65vx100w. Approx. Street price through specialised av stores is around the $10,500 mark. Unlike the PF and PH commercial panels, its main intention is for home theatre installations and is probably Panasonics answer to the Pioneer Kuro range of panels. The panel has 7160 levels of grey scale 60,000:1 contrast ratio doubling the PF range of panels, illumination levels similar to LCD displays and black levels between the 8g and 9g Pioneers. It also has a setting that switches off its processing to allow the connection of an external video processor or HTPC.

In the UK, a 50" version of this panel has been installed next to a 50" 9g Kuro and the ongoing discussion about each panels performance can be found here on avforums.

This UK thread sums up quite well the differences between the outgoing Kuro's and the new offering from Panasonic. I've read numerous reviews on the vx100 over the past few weeks, most written by pro calibrators. In all on these reviews, what stands out the most is the references to the amount of fine shadow detail available on the vw100 and the sharper image with less noise compared to the Kuro's. The shortcoming of the panel is that its black levels still don't compare to the 9g Pioneers and it lacks a CMS.

Panasonics commercial on their web page is along the lines of 'Do you want blacks that are truely black or blacks that are true.'

Edited by cummo

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The P42S10A and P42G10A seem to have the exact same specs when you attempt to compare them... anyone know what the differences between the two are (I know the S is meant to replace the Z80 and the G the Z800, but any firmer details?).

There is a lot of discussion about the differences over at AVS. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1135531 THX is the main difference and the Service Menu options are more extensive as well as some additional processing circuitry (possibly) in the G10. The panel is the same though. Hundreds of people at AVS have asked the question, is it worth the extra to get the G10. Well in the US the price difference is only about $100-200 so its worth it. Here the price difference is sure to be more like $500. Not sure if that would be worth it - will have to wait and see. S is meant to replace PZ80 but G is meant to replace PZ850.

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I really don't "get" the supposed benefit of a one inch deep TV.

Who really cares whether it's one inch deep of three?

We all watch the TV from the front don't we?

Who would really pay so much more for a TV that is this thin and that has wireless built in?

As far as networking goes, it'd be better to cut costs by just having a standard wired ethernet port, then you could buy a pair of ethernet over power adapters and connect it to your router. Cost $200 RRP for the ethernet over power adapters.

Reckon we might be getting a bit into the "brochure feature only" territory here with this $10k plasma, Ie running out of really useful features that we will use.

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I really don't "get" the supposed benefit of a one inch deep TV.

Who really cares whether it's one inch deep of three?

We all watch the TV from the front don't we?

Who would really pay so much more for a TV that is this thin and that has wireless built in?

As far as networking goes, it'd be better to cut costs by just having a standard wired ethernet port, then you could buy a pair of ethernet over power adapters and connect it to your router. Cost $200 RRP for the ethernet over power adapters.

Reckon we might be getting a bit into the "brochure feature only" territory here with this $10k plasma, Ie running out of really useful features that we will use.

Unfortunately, depending on one's viewpoint, there are always people that want something to do "everything", especially concerning consumer electronics.

Trouble is 99.99% of the time the thing is a jack of all trades but a master of none (this is very true in the audio industry)......

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I really don't "get" the supposed benefit of a one inch deep TV.

Who really cares whether it's one inch deep of three?

We all watch the TV from the front don't we?

Who would really pay so much more for a TV that is this thin and that has wireless built in?

As far as networking goes, it'd be better to cut costs by just having a standard wired ethernet port, then you could buy a pair of ethernet over power adapters and connect it to your router. Cost $200 RRP for the ethernet over power adapters.

Reckon we might be getting a bit into the "brochure feature only" territory here with this $10k plasma, Ie running out of really useful features that we will use.

Unfortunately, depending on one's viewpoint, there are always people that want something to do "everything", especially concerning consumer electronics.

Trouble is 99.99% of the time the thing is a jack of all trades but a master of none (this is very true in the audio industry)......

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I really don't "get" the supposed benefit of a one inch deep TV.

Who really cares whether it's one inch deep of three?

It will look better wall mounted than a 3 inch. I won't pay for it now, but one day it will be affordable.

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Saw a S1 in Belconnen (Canberra) JB today.

It was only the 32inch one. I think they must have had some dodgy feed because the picture detail looked pretty poor. The colour looked fantastic though. It was a lot brighter than what I'm used to seeing in bright stores.

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I really don't "get" the supposed benefit of a one inch deep TV.

Who really cares whether it's one inch deep of three?

We all watch the TV from the front don't we?

Who would really pay so much more for a TV that is this thin and that has wireless built in?

As far as networking goes, it'd be better to cut costs by just having a standard wired ethernet port, then you could buy a pair of ethernet over power adapters and connect it to your router. Cost $200 RRP for the ethernet over power adapters.

Reckon we might be getting a bit into the "brochure feature only" territory here with this $10k plasma, Ie running out of really useful features that we will use.

i think the slimmer they are, easier to move, less space taken up etc. less obtrusive when hanging on the wall.

i was back in nz a few weeks back and saw all the wireless tvs there and they are impressive. means you can connect the tv pretty much anywhere there is a power cable and send all the signals wirelessly.

the guy at sony style said he was planning to put one mounted in the middle of the store where they only had a composite and power cable wired 6 years ago or so, and would be finally able to put some HD content in that area where people walk in and look up.

i could imagine in my apartment wireless would be great, if i wanted to change the wall where foxtel is connected etc.

edit: should note that most of the time with the new wireless tvs now is not for wireless internet, its so they have a media box that sends all the inputs to the tv wirelessly. means you can have all your devices connected to media box in a rack with receiver etc in one low key corner of the room, and just have the tv sitting nicely somewhere with power

Edited by smokenz

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FWIW the Good Guys up here on the North Coast of NSW will be doing the P50X10A(1366-768) for around $2000 so hopefully the FHD models will drop under $3000 reasonably quickly. I spent the last couple of Days on the Gold Cost and still haven't seen any of the new models in the flesh thou.

Edit..Thanks ryuji, looking for the 42" for a neighbour but not in store yet.

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FWIW the Good Guys up here on the North Coast of NSW will be doing the P50X10A(1024-768) for around $2000 so hopefully the FHD models will drop under $3000 reasonably quickly. I spent the last couple of Days on the Gold Cost and still haven't seen any of the new models in the flesh thou.

P50X10A seems to be 1366x768...

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FWIW the Good Guys up here on the North Coast of NSW will be doing the P50X10A(1024-768) for around $2000 so hopefully the FHD models will drop under $3000 reasonably quickly.

The P50X10A is advertised in this months JBHifi catalog for $2046.

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Well that's the range, timings and some pricing

V10 range

TH-P50V10A 50-inch 1080p plasma $TBC August

TH-L37V10A 37-inch 1080p LCD $TBC September

G10 range

TH-P50G10A 50-inch 1080p plasma $3799 June

TH-P46G10A 46-inch 1080p plasma $3299 June

TH-P42G10A 42-inch 1080p plasma $2749 May

TH-L37G10A 37-inch 1080p LCD $2199 June

TH-L32G10A 32-inch 1080p LCD $1999 June

S10 range

TH-P54S10A 54-inch 1080p plasma $TBC October

TH-P50S10A 50-inch 1080p plasma $TBC July

TH-P46S10A 46-inch 1080p plasma $2899 June

TH-P42S10A 42-inch 1080p plasma $2499 June

TH-L42S10A 42-inch 1080p LCD $TBC September

TH-L37S10A 37-inch 1080p LCD $1999 May

TH-L32S10A 32-inch 1080p LCD $1539 April

X10 range

TH-P50X10A 50-inch 720p plasma $2399 April

TH-P42X10A 42-inch 720p plasma $1849 April

TH-L32X10A 32-inch 720p LCD $1319 April

TH-L26X10A 26-inch 720p LCD $TBC September

TH-L19X10A 19-inch HD 720p LCD $TBC September

Interesting point about the wireless Z1 model

the inch-thin 1080p Wireless Z1 Plasma TV (TH-P54Z1A), a 54-inch plasma panel with wireless communication between the screen and a separate connector box that takes all the inputs, including four HDMI devices...

Crucially the 60GHz wireless link can handle 1080p signals (Sony’s new wireless TVs can only handle 1080i) so that full-quality Blu-ray sources can be accommodated

I am amazed that Sony would sell a unit only capable of handling 1080i wirelessly...aren't they one of the biggest backers for Bluray??? :wacko:

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