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Mystar box is ****

LET US USE OUR OWN AUSTAR

I've never seen the reason why people want to use 3rd Party decoders. I like the MyStar (we're one of the lucky few, or lucky one, who don't have to restart it often), and wouldn't give it up for all the chocolate in the space-time continuum. Granted it has it's flaws, but, then again, pretty much everything has flaws.

And besides, on 3rd party boxes, you have problems such as these and the fact you can't get the Weather Active, etc., stuff would annoy me. And besides, the boxes they give you are free. Why fork out for something that does the job competently?

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Why fork out for something that does the job competently?

The day that 'competently' can be truely applied to one of Austar's boxes is the day that I will agree with you.

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The day that 'competently' can be truely applied to one of Austar's boxes is the day that I will agree with you.

I define a competent Austar box as one that descrambles the channels and spits them out to the television. My old Omega did that, and my Mystar does that as well.

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I've never seen the reason why people want to use 3rd Party decoders. I like the MyStar (we're one of the lucky few, or lucky one, who don't have to restart it often), and wouldn't give it up for all the chocolate in the space-time continuum. Granted it has it's flaws, but, then again, pretty much everything has flaws.

And besides, on 3rd party boxes, you have problems such as these and the fact you can't get the Weather Active, etc., stuff would annoy me. And besides, the boxes they give you are free. Why fork out for something that does the job competently?

What do you mean free' They want $50 install and $15/month.

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What do you mean free' They want $50 install and $15/month.

<bangs head on table>

Okay, the standard decoders are free(ish). the Mystar they want you to pay for. Stupid me!

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All I'll say on this subject, for a few weeks, is 'look further than camkeys'.

DrP are you hinting it may be a 2 way marriage thing with the card? I cant see that for a couple of reasons.

my two austar cards, chucky and spongebob are both 4.1s which can not be two way married, 5.x yes, 4.1 no, and neither give pics in any of my third party boxes, all but the humax and topfield give a black screen, the humax and topfield say scrambled dispite showing EMM and ECMs being updated in the Cam status.

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I define a competent Austar box as one that descrambles the channels and spits them out to the television. My old Omega did that, and my Mystar does that as well.

I define 'competent' as works properly. Safe to say that none of Austar's boxes actually work properly. Bugs of all types abound and lets not forget that regular automated restart to try to keep a lid on things either. Oh and its best you don't mention the mystar when it comes to 'competent' operation. ;)

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What do you mean free' They want $50 install and $15/month.

Some of the people here could earn alot more than $15 a month if they were paid to post to this forum - all of our contributions individually could earn about $15 a month if we were all paid to post. :rolleyes:

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I define a competent Austar box as one that descrambles the channels and spits them out to the television. My old Omega did that, and my Mystar does that as well.

Good for sheep, yes.

But third party boxes, such as those used folk who take the card and use them in caravans etc when on hols (some along with Aurora too), will now have to lug the 'boxy' Austar decoder with them. No Signal or Quality meter for setting the dish, just BER etc that mum n pops simply do not savvy.

Then the PVR set such as myself I guess (Toppy PVR4000/5000-Mediastar, and thats not the Mediastar that upscales via HDMI btw, but its sister 'basic' PVR) used these waaaaayyyy before MyStar came along, these are much better products and whilst not usable for 'ACTIVE' and not that that is a big deal in my view, but are NOT simply restricted to the one provider, but opened up a whole new world of viewing from Al Jazeera International on the same satellite that carries Foxtel/Austar/Aurora, to multitudes of other chanels (Incl niche) on both C band and Ku;

VOA TV, NOW, Channel News Asia, NASA TV, Russia Today, Press TV Iran, News feeds unedited, English language Saudi channel, Arirang TV, Afghan and Iraqi channels, Indonesian channels, China's CCTV's, NOW TV, English Movie Channel on T18, heck- even X porn if you wanted it etc and so on. Even a few FTA high def IF you have a DVB-S2 receiver.

As much as I'd like to think folk would backlash and cancel, I'd accept only a small portion of folk used the boxes and would retaliate by cancelling. The provider banks on that of course.

But as we know, they have deliberately done this to kill off the piracy white-card phenomenon, but the move restricts trade to an effect, even though T&C's prohibit so.

SelecTV is the only domestic 'pay' option now, but they are consumer friendly and need support. Aurora is of course a one off fee.

Edited by Keepleft

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Good for sheep, yes.

But third party boxes, such as those used folk who take the card and use them in caravans etc when on hols (some along with Aurora too), will now have to lug the 'boxy' Austar decoder with them. No Signal or Quality meter for setting the dish, just BER etc that mum n pops simply do not savvy.

Then the PVR set such as myself I guess (Toppy PVR4000/5000-Mediastar, and thats not the Mediastar that upscales via HDMI btw, but its sister 'basic' PVR) used these waaaaayyyy before MyStar came along, these are much better products and whilst not usable for 'ACTIVE' and not that that is a big deal in my view, but are NOT simply restricted to the one provider, but opened up a whole new world of viewing from Al Jazeera International on the same satellite that carries Foxtel/Austar/Aurora, to multitudes of other chanels (Incl niche) on both C band and Ku;

VOA TV, NOW, Channel News Asia, NASA TV, Russia Today, Press TV Iran, News feeds unedited, English language Saudi channel, Arirang TV, Afghan and Iraqi channels, Indonesian channels, China's CCTV's, NOW TV, English Movie Channel on T18, heck- even X porn if you wanted it etc and so on. Even a few FTA high def IF you have a DVB-S2 receiver.

As much as I'd like to think folk would backlash and cancel, I'd accept only a small portion of folk used the boxes and would retaliate by cancelling. The provider banks on that of course.

But as we know, they have deliberately done this to kill off the piracy white-card phenomenon, but the move restricts trade to an effect, even though T&C's prohibit so.

SelecTV is the only domestic 'pay' option now, but they are consumer friendly and need support. Aurora is of course a one off fee.

I think you guys have already elaborated why you like to use 3rd party boxes for Austar. Its easier to post links to those rather than re-typing the reasons why again don't you think?

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I think you guys have already elaborated why you like to use 3rd party boxes for Austar. Its easier to post links to those rather than re-typing the reasons why again don't you think?

Sweet Jesus Oh Glorious Satan; for me its much faster to type in diect response than going on a search to yield various results, and to then direct fella to which portion of each! No need to quote my whole post again, but thanks anyway:-)

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Sweet Jesus Oh Glorious Satan; for me its much faster to type in diect response than going on a search to yield various results, and to then direct fella to which portion of each! No need to quote my whole post again, but thanks anyway:-)

if your reason is as good as your spelling and grammar, i can understand ;-) *only stirring matey!*

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You can hardly blame Austar for doing the only thing they could possibly do to stop the pirated cards from working. To anybody we forked out on a third party STB you knew the risks before you bought it. Sure in a perfect world it would be an open system which you could use whatever, however its not and Austar never said it was. If you want open subscribe to SelecTV, if Austar wants to add things to their stream to make it impossible to use a pirated card its their choice. That's one of the reasons they don't let people use third party equipment.

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You can hardly blame Austar for doing the only thing they could possibly do to stop the pirated cards from working. To anybody we forked out on a third party STB you knew the risks before you bought it. Sure in a perfect world it would be an open system which you could use whatever, however its not and Austar never said it was. If you want open subscribe to SelecTV, if Austar wants to add things to their stream to make it impossible to use a pirated card its their choice. That's one of the reasons they don't let people use third party equipment.

You just have to LOVE to death the moronic apologists for Crapstar! How much are they getting paid for the verbiage they spew out in defence of the indefensible! Let's get the facts straight! 1) Crapstar is nothing but a rebadger of Foxtel 2) for those of us who pay MORE for the Crapstar full service than subscibers of Foxtel with an IQ (and yes I am one of them too, so don't bother disputing facts, I also have an apartment in Sydney with that susbcription service!) it is a disgrace that Crapstar charge what they do for the piece of crap they call a decoder it is analog RCA output only and don't bother suggesting S-video is an improvement it's NOT. 3) Selectv do not seem to have a) any problems with 3rd party decoders or B) with alleged piracy problems, so why is poor Crapstar the only target? 4) for those of us who do not have access to terrestrial TV and need to buy Aurora cards and therefore run two fully PAID for subscription service cards for use on Optus C1 - WHY THE BLOODY HELL MUST WE RUN 2 DECODER BOXES to protect Crapstar's bottom line? I have been able to run 2 sub cards in a Mediastar decoder upscaled to HDMI with SPDIF till 14:30 22/4/8. Now like the demise of the Concorde I am FORCED backwards by Crapstar to a barely watchable analog pic with crap sound! And please don't seriously suggest MyStar - all the reviews bag it....so WHY CAN'T CRAPSTAR GET IT'S SH*T TOGETHER AND ISSUE SUB CARDS THAT WILL WORK IN 3RD PARTY DECODERS???? The Aurora channels including MSCM, Imparja. GWN and WIN can lock down their sub cards to 3rd party decoders! So it is possible. Ok you Crapstar apologists who seem to have a pathelogical urge to try an suffocate logic with your endless and totally unasked for nay saying. Butt out of this debate unless you have been using 3rd party decoders. This forum is for supporters of DIGITAL TV not analog crap. Have I made myself clear enough, go foul someone else "sand pit"!

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What a lot of dribble, and I'm no supporter of Austar/Foxtel/Optus.

it is a disgrace that Crapstar charge what they do for the piece of crap they call a decoder it is analog RCA output only and don't bother suggesting S-video is an improvement it's NOT.

It is. A significant increase in picture quality can be obtained by using it, even taking Foxtel's woeful picture quality into account.

Selectv do not seem to have a) any problems with 3rd party decoders or B) with alleged piracy problems, so why is poor Crapstar the only target?

'gamma' cards for Select are available, they just aren't as popular compared to the ones for Austar because select has a lot less programming .. and a lot of what they do have isn't that interesting and select is comparatively 'cheap'*

4) for those of us who do not have access to terrestrial TV and need to buy Aurora cards and therefore run two fully PAID for subscription service cards for use on Optus C1 - WHY THE BLOODY HELL MUST WE RUN 2 DECODER BOXES to protect Crapstar's bottom line?

Aurora is NOT a subscription service. There is a one off activation fee and from then on it is $0 cost to the viewer. You could ask why Foxtel doesn't supply viewers in WA with an Irdeto compatible box so they can use it to watch Aurora as well. :rolleyes:

If you are going to launch into a rant, at least try to be factual about it. Perhaps the reality of your situation has come crashing down around you after you realised that your 'action' against Austar with the ACCC is doomed to failure. There was no breach of any regulations by Austar WRT to disabling 3rd party equipment.

Of course if your intent was to troll, then you are an idiot.

*its still not value for money

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What a lot of dribble, and I'm no supporter of Austar/Foxtel/Optus.

It is. A significant increase in picture quality can be obtained by using it, even taking Foxtel's woeful picture quality into account.

'gamma' cards for Select are available, they just aren't as popular compared to the ones for Austar because select has a lot less programming .. and a lot of what they do have isn't that interesting and select is comparatively 'cheap'*

Aurora is NOT a subscription service. There is a one off activation fee and from then on it is $0 cost to the viewer. You could ask why Foxtel doesn't supply viewers in WA with an Irdeto compatible box so they can use it to watch Aurora as well. :rolleyes:

If you are going to launch into a rant, at least try to be factual about it. Perhaps the reality of your situation has come crashing down around you after you realised that your 'action' against Austar with the ACCC is doomed to failure. There was no breach of any regulations by Austar WRT to disabling 3rd party equipment.

Of course if your intent was to troll, then you are an idiot.

*its still not value for money

No an idiot! But DAMN mad and, as I said people like you obviously don't use the 3rd party equipment, (be suprirsed if you even susbcribe to Austar!) so what makes u feel so profoundly capable of comment on something you clearly know nothing about! Your ignorance exhibits your "idiocy", Austar is being very restrictive in its behaviour and if you are happy to defend them that's your problem, not mine and I will continue to vent, as will ALL other genuine susbcribers who are paying for an inferior product that is NOT available digitally via Austar's standard decoders. You aint gonna weether me down with your waffle. As I said this is a forum for people who actually use and appreciate DIGITAL TV. Do you? if so what equipment are you using, would be nice to know if your even on the same planet!

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