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Also, (and I posted this on the Sony thread) is anyone seeing the TBE effect (Triple Ball effect) on this panel.

Purportedly the F81's do have this issue, whereas the Sony's do not.

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150w ish... the thing was reading 300w, but thats with the PS3 as well - which previously uses between 120 and 150...

Whats Triple Ball Effect?

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No I haven't noticed that. but I havn't watched any sport/moving balls yet :)

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Hey all,

Finally bit the bullet and ordered mine today.

Decided to by from Myer (Knox) only cause the leg work had been done,

and all i had to do was go in and pay... thanks Deadlyone.

I ended up getting it for $3200 plus weekend delivery of $55.

I was going to push harder for free delivery... but was happy enough at that price.

Just wanted to get it asap and i missed the Friday delivery time.

The salesman Joseph was really helpful, and i mentioned 'an internet friend' aka DTV Forums

had told me about this awesome deal.

He seemed keen that i let 'my friends' know.

So feel free to say a 'friend' sent you <g>

Cheers

Chris

Good to hear you got on well. Perhaps having my ultra-cute 3y/o daughter in tow helped with the inclusive delivery ... heheh

My unit arrived at midday today, as promised. Ducked home to receive it and do a quick setup and check. Initial impression is very favourable. Unpack, plug-in, turn on, auto-setup. HD Digital FTA = very nice!! XBox = sweet. Full HD games and video from HTPC ... will check out thoroughly tonight.

Extremely happy so far.

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When I picked up my Sony LCD, the sales guy mentioned about how you could lie the LCD's flat for transport, its the plasmas that you are not allowed to. He said some brand plasmas have sensors on the packaging to show if they have remained upright.

Relative safety for transporting a flat display panel laying down is proportional to the size of the panel. These panels are a rather delicate sandwich of films and components between two glass substrates. With a very large panel the weight of the glass itself causes a potential to deform. Travelling over bumps and vibrations can set up an oscillation where the contents of the sandwich may be damaged through compression and smearing.

Plasmas are generally larger than LCD, heavier glass, therefore this is more of an issue with them.

Never flex or twist your panel. In a nice rigid cardboard box, packed solid, I reckon you'd be pretty safe turning a large screen on its side to carry. I wouldn't do it once out of the box though.

D.

PS. It's a bit like stamped optical discs. Flex them and you won't see any cracks but what you've done is just make microscopic tears in the reflective film sandwiched between the polycarb layers.

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Hey, Dansanhdieu,

Yeah I did get that very faint wave happening at the beginning, but after playing with the settings it has dissapeared. If you want, check out my previous post where i listed my settings from the tv.

As for the 100hz feature whilst watching bluray can't test that as i haven't got a bluray player yet. I'll have to ask my brother if i can borrow his PS3 over the weekend to test it out. In general I have found the 100hz feature is better to be turned off than on whilst watching a dvd or FTA.

Thanks alot bacco .

I have printed out your setting and config with my samsung . Now the wave seem to be disapper now . I can't really see it anymore .

Mode : Dynamic Contract : 69 Brightness : 45 Sharpness : 56 . Colour 55 Backlight 10 Digital NR off Active On Motion Plus 100hz off . Dnie on

Now i switch to Movie mode . Wave appear again . I do your config again apply all your setting correct just leave Mode on Movie Mode instead of Dynamic . this time . Wave gone again .

After playing around with it a little . i found out that have something to do with backlight feature . If i set backlight <=5 i can see the wave . If back light at max 10 i don't see anything . Bacco could you please apply your setting one more time and change backlight to 5 or 4 to see what happen .

The question is : Is this TV faulty or just we have to setting correctly . If you just reset all image setting and choose between 3 mode result is

Dynamic : you can see the wave but very hard to notice it

Standard : it visible

Movie : it very ovibious there is wave go up and down the screen . i already have my sister and my mom look at it and they also argeed there is wave running up and down the screen .

To matisha or anyother new F81 owner : If you read this message please try to do the same with your TV to see what happen .

Bye the way . i already called myer to get my tv replaced but they said they won't have stock until 17 December which is not very happy for me .

I have warranty problem with Samsung in the past and very happy with solution .

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Just got mine delivered today looks great, worked beautifully for about half an hour then suddenly it blew a gusset..

flickering colored lines on every source, played around for a while no luck rang samsung they said replace it so i rang Myer and am having it replaced but have to wait 2 weeks or so SPEWING. hope this does'nt put anyone off though cause it was really good for a minute..

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Just got mine delivered today looks great, worked beautifully for about half an hour then suddenly it blew a gusset..

flickering colored lines on every source, played around for a while no luck rang samsung they said replace it so i rang Myer and am having it replaced but have to wait 2 weeks or so SPEWING. hope this does'nt put anyone off though cause it was really good for a minute..

So far there have been alot of TV reported as faulty . I also bought it from Myer and will get replace as soon as they have stock .

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So far there have been alot of TV reported as faulty . I also bought it from Myer and will get replace as soon as they have stock .

I carn't even watch mine its flickering that badly... :angry:

on the plus side if you get a replacement tv does this mean i can fill out my free 26" forms twice with different serials (fingers crossed) :blush:

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on the plus side if you get a replacement tv does this mean i can fill out my free 26" forms twice with different serials (fingers crossed) :blush:

Thats a good way to look at it. Im down in the western district more than likely going to Geelong on the weekend. Has anyone seen stock around anywhere in Geelong. If not do they have them at the Melbourne city Myers store ( If not here where would the best bet be?). Dont want to drive all the way to Melbourne and then spend the rest of the day driving around the city looking for one. If I was to buy one in Melbourne can I take it there on the day or do I have it delivered. Would a 46" screen fit into the back seat of a VZ commodore sedan fairly easy or a bit of a tight fit?

Thanks Ben

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Hi All,

Git my 46 incher today. Setup went well, gotta love unpacking a box that size and knowing that is all 1080P HD goodness underneith!! :) Having said that, I have to admit that HDFTA is not at all as good as I had hoped for. Can anyone give me some advice on a good FTA program to watch in HD ... which is actually HD!

Peace

Geekguy

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Hi All,

Git my 46 incher today. Setup went well, gotta love unpacking a box that size and knowing that is all 1080P HD goodness underneith!! :) Having said that, I have to admit that HDFTA is not at all as good as I had hoped for. Can anyone give me some advice on a good FTA program to watch in HD ... which is actually HD!

Peace

Geekguy

Check out The David Letterman show. Its about the best FTA HD program I have seen.

Edited by ledge

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anyone have the price for 52"....

There is a stock issue with 46", gotta to wait till 17/12. that's what the salesperson told me....

Is there any place in sydney that have the lcd in stock?

Cheers

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anyone have the price for 52"....

There is a stock issue with 46", gotta to wait till 17/12. that's what the salesperson told me....

Is there any place in sydney that have the lcd in stock?

Cheers

I found a company in Sydney called Dancom that can supply the new f series and will match any reasonable price elsewhere, extended warrantys and all the goodies to go with it

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Is there any place in sydney that have the lcd in stock?

Cheers

My suggestion is you should wait for the 2nd batch to arrive and buy after that . coz it look like me and ....another 5,6 people in this forum have a Faulty TV 46" F81 series waiting to get replace when the 2nd batch stock arrive on 17 december .

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Can anyone describe the "faint wave" problem they are having. Is it there all the time or is it specific to a source you watching i.e DVD or is it there all the time no matter what picture mode you select. Is it there on a full screen or on 4:3 aspect ratio.

I have the 46" and I am trying to see if mine has the problem, at this stage I cannot see it but I want to make sure just in case I need to have it replaced before the 14days are up. I would like help in trying to spot the problem if it is there.

Any help in a better description of the fault would be helpful to me and I am sure other new owners would be interested as well. Thanks...

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The faint wave problem is occasionally noticeable as follows:

If you look really, really closely at the screen, you can see faintly (and I mean very faintly) a little Korean in the left bottom side of the screen waving at you. Seems to happen in Samsung and LG LCD's. Then again if you look really, really hard at any screen, I would suggest after awhile certain things pop in you head.

The wave thing more correctly (again I may be incorrect) is the screen refreshing. If you watch television sometimes you will see a camera shot where you see some computers in the background "flickering" very quickly from top to bottom. This is a more pronounced version of the wave effect. What the Samsung has is something similar that you watch out for - a very, very subtle and very faint "flickering" or line movement (usually from the top of the screen to the bottom).

From my perspective, if you can't see it, why bother go looking for it. Then again as a future proof purchase for the next say 3-5 years then I would be looking for it and asking for a fix (either replacement or firmware) where available.

If you go to the avsforum.com website they have a whole list of people that explore this topic. The model series in the States is F86 from memory. Note their version has 120hz though and be wary of what firmwares you can download there.

Edited by chrissara

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Here are some photos of my Faulty F81

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/269/pho...ecent060in8.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3093/ph...ecent063zk2.jpg

let me know if these photos dont work im still new to uploading...

P.S im pretty sure this is a different problem from the wave that people are reporting

Edited by Procastinator

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Here are some photos of my Faulty F81

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/269/pho...ecent060in8.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3093/ph...ecent063zk2.jpg

let me know if these photos dont work im still new to uploading...

P.S im pretty sure this is a different problem from the wave that people are reporting

omg, that is bad. it must be driving you nuts.

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That is one fault TV - back it goes. That should not be happening at all. Something is damaged i.e. that is not an inherent fault.

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I don't know if this is the right thread to post this....Although these are connected to my F81

I have a question in relation to using a component cable for my DVD. I have some good quality cables yet there is some slight patterning when I use component to watch DVD. When I switch over to just normal AV and watch a DVD I have no patterning and the picture is much better...

Second part of my question I only have a normal HiFi VCR. I have also noticed that the picture coming through this if I wanted to record a FTA channel is very poor. I assume this is the analog signal, but on my previous analog TV the picture was pretty much perfect. Why would it be worse on a FHDTV...The HD channels are fine through the TV itself but through the VCR I have the issue.

Any thoughts on the above would be appreciated...Thanks

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That is one fault TV - back it goes. That should not be happening at all. Something is damaged i.e. that is not an inherent fault.

Thanks for the info on the wave issue.

I can see a very faint dark shadow that runs down the screen when I drop the picture settings and the backlight...This is the only time I can see something if this is actually it. The problem is I will never watch the TV at these low settings so when I turn the screen back to dynamic and raise the backlight, I have no issue...So is this the problem people are talking about or I am I getting this result based on the settings I changed....I suppose the question is should there be any change to the good picture no matter what I do to the basic settings...so even if the picture gets duller due to the settings I select should the picture be high quality but just a bit duller if you know what I mean...

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