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Hello Derek,

I was the first"non NSW "buyer to register and , to date, I have not received a call. This didn't overly concern me, but in view of the earlier notification that people would be called in order of registering, I am now a little bit on edge.

I think GB should be city specific so that the group can pay locally and pick-up the goods right away. May be its little bit expensive with say 20-25 people vs. 70, but surely not that much.

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It may be helpful if people who have recieved their sets or have paid and are waiting for delivery update the Wiki.

May reassure some people that the ball is rolling and progress is being made.

I also read a post re wall mounting and the buldge on this set which no one has replied to, isn't this why we have this web group to share infomation? or are we just here to whine about having to wait a couple weeks for the privilaged pricing we are recieving.

I understand the fustration as we are all keen to start enjoying our sets and we are disapointed with the wait. But I'm confident the retailer is quickly working towards an outcome. If any one thinking of bailing on the GB, JB has them priced at 3999 with a cross through it so maybe you could talk them down. If you do organise another 70 for the rest of us and then comment

The 700A can easily be purchased for $3480 without even trying to haggle just google the model number.

Your comments are identical to those that I and a few others said in another GB that went disasterously wrong. This time though I am not paying any money up front to be left dangling for weeks or months. I will wait for a phone call but if it does not come tomorrow then I am going to have to reconsider my intent with the GB, I am not prepared as you obviously are to wait for a few more weeks.

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Guys a few points;

1. many people are emailing me but don't seem to be posting. Just because no one has posted here does not mean end of the world. A lot of people signed up to the forum just to get in the GB

2. if you received a call or have taken delivery of your panel by all means share with the group, pics etc so the 'delicate' GB members are put at ease!

3. Total of 71 people are in this GB but only 5-10 are on here every hr posting doom and gloom....chill

4. By all means the few guys who are worried, etc just call our contact tomorrow. You have the number...they are great blokes - they will give you an update!!!

5. End of rant :D

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I hope your GB price was better than the price I was offered by Myer in Bris on Saturday for the Pana PZ 700A - $2,990 + $350 for the 48 month warranty upgrade. I would have been able to drive home with it as they had it in stock.

Instead I opted pass and bought a 46" F series Samsung LCD instead (a couple of hundred dollars more), it's better suited to my bright living room. I pick that up on Friday afternoon, subject to them receiving their expected delivery. It also includes a free Samsung 26" LCD by redemption.

I should add I spent a little over $10,000 while I was in the store on Saturday morning.

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Instead I opted pass and bought a 46" F series Samsung LCD instead (a couple of hundred dollars more), it's better suited to my bright living room. I pick that up on Friday afternoon, subject to them receiving their expected delivery. It also includes a free Samsung 26" LCD by redemption.

what price did you get for that mate?

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I hope your GB price was better than the price I was offered by Myer in Bris on Saturday for the Pana PZ 700A - $2,990 + $350 for the 48 month warranty upgrade. I would have been able to drive home with it as they had it in stock.

I should add I spent a little over $10,000 while I was in the store on Saturday morning.

I guess the more important question is:if you were only purchasing the PZ700A would the same price have been offered?

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Instead I opted pass and bought a 46" F series Samsung LCD instead (a couple of hundred dollars more), it's better suited to my bright living room. I pick that up on Friday afternoon, subject to them receiving their expected delivery. It also includes a free Samsung 26" LCD by redemption.

Why are you posting here? Why the f@&k would you buy a Samsung 46lcd over the p700? I think you should see an optometrist!

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Why are you posting here? Why the f@&k would you buy a Samsung 46lcd over the p700? I think you should see an optometrist!

So you're not interested in the best price available and maybe pickup a pointer or two on how to negotiate?

Now we're going to degenerate to the use of descriptive language. What if I told you I saw the Myer cost price for the 700A but you wouldn't want to know that either, would you? I wanted a 700A but when I saw it running in store it was clear to me it was not going to suit the room I was planning to put it in - way too bright during the day, an LCD was better suited PLUS I get a free 26" LCD tele.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it.

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What if I told you I saw the Myer cost price for the 700A but you wouldn't want to know that either, would you?

Everyone knows the so called 'cost price' you see on the floor has no reality...it doesn't take into consideration rebates from Panasonic and certainly is not the true price that Panasonic charge the retailer.

I've seen cost prices on the 50" 700A range from $1900 through to $3680 depending on which store you go to - I even saw 2 different cost prices in THE SAME STORE!

Crazy!

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So you're not interested in the best price available and maybe pickup a pointer or two on how to negotiate?

Well here’s a pointer or two on negotiation.

Retailers never reveal their actual real cost prices!

The so-called cost prices that are ‘revealed’ from a store’s computer during negotiation sometimes are merely figures that serve as a reserve that junior salesmen are not allowed to go under.

The store’s actual cost prices are lower than that!

Don’t be fooled!

Cheers

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The so-called cost prices that are ‘revealed’ from a store’s computer during negotiation sometimes are merely figures that serve as a reserve that junior salesmen are not allowed to go under.

Sorry if I have used the wrong terminology. In your terms, junior salesmen at Myer in Bris are not allowed to go below $2,950 for a 700A. Hint, hint!

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I wanted a 700A but when I saw it running in store it was clear to me it was not going to suit the room I was planning to put it in - way too bright during the day, an LCD was better suited PLUS I get a free 26" LCD tele.

Maybe the 700a was running because it saw you coming with your 5" thick glasses! Oh and by the way, if your watching tv during the day then you NEED TO GET A LIFE!

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Samsung has done a good job of tricking people into buying its panels by giving them a 'free' 26" LCD which I imagine has a cost price of around $200. The cost price of my tiny 22" LCD was $185 6 months ago...the 26" must be cheap now.

Fast movements on the new Sammy panel is judder hell I tell you....I watched it for 30mins last Saturday against the Philips/LG and Panny. The LG wasn't much better.

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Paid for the tv over the weekend (thursday), was told to pick it up Sunday or yesterday. Picked it up yesterday.

The Retailer is getting stock from all of their other stores in order to satisfy this group buy.

Ordered HDMI cables from foxtail ( http://www.hdmioz.com/ ) & they were delivered before the email to say they are in the post was (2-3 days).

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what else do i write?

the panel is HUGE & good, no - REALLY good pq.

Have it connected via HDMI to PS3. all the settings were automatic.

I hope this chillax's some of the people who haven't been called yet. Will post pix if/when i get a chance today.

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They definitely have stock issues. I paid last Thursday in store and still haven't received a call about delivery, which they said I would get on Friday.

Left a message and waiting for call back from store.

(no panic, just letting people know how it's going)

(oh and just a bit miffed that people paying on the weekend already have their panel..)

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Maybe the 700a was running because it saw you coming with your 5" thick glasses! Oh and by the way, if your watching tv during the day then you NEED TO GET A LIFE!

What's with the personal attack?

How does insulting someone help?

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They definitely have stock issues. I paid last Thursday in store and still haven't received a call about delivery, which they said I would get on Friday.

Left a message and waiting for call back from store.

I thought the 42" were going to be easy to get.

Lets see what today has in store for us. Possibly a phone call.

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Just got off the phone from talking to Michael and he was upfront about the stocking issues, they are trying their best to get stock from other stores but as I suspected there is no guarrantee that the other stores will oblige their request to use the other franchisees stock levels to fulfill the GB order. As far as new stock of the 50" panel, well there will be no new stock until Feb 08 so if they are unable to get the stock from the other franchisees then those that miss out will be waiting till Feb08 for the 50".

Michael did say that they will know their position better on Thursday but he hopes to start notifying people either later today or tomorrow as to when to expect delivery.

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Just got off the phone from talking to Michael and he was upfront about the stocking issues, they are trying their best to get stock from other stores but as I suspected there is no guarrantee that the other stores will oblige their request to use the other franchisees stock levels to fulfill the GB order. As far as new stock of the 50" panel, well there will be no new stock until Feb 08 so if they are unable to get the stock from the other franchisees then those that miss out will be waiting till Feb08 for the 50".

Michael did say that they will know their position better on Thursday but he hopes to start notifying people either later today or tomorrow as to when to expect delivery.

Yeap.. just as i thought.. Its now a game of musical chairs as to who gets one.. oh well, it was a nice price, just a shame no one has any..

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First time I've heard the Feb 08 date...I don't expect anyone to wait that long. I am sure they will pull it together...it doesn't help that the place was packed on the weekend and people are buying flat panels by the dozen!

Well that came straight from Michael this morning, he was very straight forward with me when I asked specific questions which is good. I hate it when sales people lie their arses off to secure a sale. He did say that he would be working on contacting the different franchises around the country to see if they will assist in getting stock out to people but at the end of the day they are all independantly owned franchises and if the owners do not want to oblige their request for help then there is nothing they can do. We just have to hope that there are enough franchisees around the country who want to assist with this, otherwise it is a long wait for those who miss out. When I told him where I was on the list he did not sound to confident about getting one delivered to me, it did not help when the two franchisees in my area do not have stock of the 50" model.

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Well that came straight from Michael this morning, he was very straight forward with me when I asked specific questions which is good. I hate it when sales people lie their arses off to secure a sale. He did say that he would be working on contacting the different franchises around the country to see if they will assist in getting stock out to people but at the end of the day they are all independantly owned franchises and if the owners do not want to oblige their request for help then there is nothing they can do. We just have to hope that there are enough franchisees around the country who want to assist with this, otherwise it is a long wait for those who miss out. When I told him where I was on the list he did not sound to confident about getting one delivered to me, it did not help when the two franchisees in my area do not have stock of the 50" model.

The local HN near me has no stock, there next batch is presold aswell and don't expect any until late January. The Good Guys have 2 left, 1 on display.

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I seriously beg to differ. With my gf working at JB I know what prices the retailers more or less pay for them, and this is an insane price.

The supplier through this GB would be making SFA, and would only make the money on the warranty. So for the prices to go down it is going to have to be a cut in price from panasonic - not likely going to happen if the demand is there.

Supply vs demand = price. Supply low, demand high, prices should be higher. I am happy with our price and can wait till the end of the week at least.

Although for all the people who really want a tv before chrissy, its understandable if you feel the need to dropout, although this could pull through and then you would be kicking yourself.

I don't mean to be rude, but your GF must be one of those junior salespeople that don't know the real prices of these panels! Now when Mr Maxwell organised this GB he got the best price that anyone had at the time! Even now few people have been able to get anywhere near the GB price. Having said this, if you look at the Panasonic... how much did you pay thread, there are people quoting $2400 -$2500 for this panel. In fact, one punter got one from JB (surprise, surprise) for $2200 and an additional $250 or so for extended warranty - I have a copy of the receipt as proof!

As with most technology the longer you wait the cheaper it becomes as more 'newer' technology comes out. It is no fault of Mr Maxwell's in the delays. In fact he should be applauded for the effort and hard work he put in getting an unbelievable price (at the time) on these panels - saves you a lot of haggling!

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Guys,

Any one from Melbourne got a call yet or did someone contact the stores.

I checked couple of stores locally at they said the wait time is week to 10day... (the same story from city stores as well, Myer and JB)

Melbourne people can you please PM on any news. Can't wait for the panel

Narain

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Guys,

Any one from Melbourne got a call yet or did someone contact the stores.

I checked couple of stores locally at they said the wait time is week to 10day... (the same story from city stores as well, Myer and JB)

Melbourne people can you please PM on any news. Can't wait for the panel

Narain

I think this is starting to fall into a heap.. its 2.30pm on the day that we were promised a phone call..

I wouldn't be getting my hopes up..

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Waiting patently here. (although not easy)

I wasn't actually planning to purchase until the new year but when the GB came up, the credit card price was really good. I had been able to negotiate $2500 cash (42") but truthfully CASH is a little hard to free up this side of Christmas.

I am planning to give this GB a fair chance.

Thank you for your efforts Mrmaxwell.

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What's with the personal attack?

How does insulting someone help?

Sorry Mr Happy Pants, getting bored and tetchy waiting for my Panel. Just having a bit of fun (at someone elses expense). Just read his comments, the mans a tool. He's telling us he bought Samsung lcd over the pz700a. As if we haven't been out and looked at every panel available (not too mention hours of trawling through forums) in order to decide on buying this panel. I even checked out a Planar 46"lcd with all the lastes processing that retails for $6,500. There was still judder. The PZ700a at this price is by far the best value for money. Samsung schmamsung.

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Guys many people have been called, have paid & organised delivery.

Please be patient as it takes a fair bit of work sourcing the stock, organising courier etc.

As I said many people are not posting here and reporting success so just sit tight. I'm still waiting for a call on my panel so if I can wait so can everyone else hahahaha

Derek

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I'm still waiting for a call on my panel so if I can wait so can everyone else hahahaha

Derek

You realise that this negates some of your other posts about how the retailer is working through the list as I do beleive that you are first on it!

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This is the reason I didn't want to include the PZ models in the GB I just COMPLETED. I did get pricing and was thinking on adding them in but the salesperson warned me that there was likely to be a shortage so I opted to leave them out.

Very glad I did so seeing what has happened in this GB.

I must say following the progress of this GB as an "outsider" that it is concerning to see the story change so often from the organiser. It's like a soap opera and the way it's panning out I reckon the last episode of the season is just around the corner. And we all know how much drama they manage to pack into the last episode, don't we?

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Sorry Mr Happy Pants, getting bored and tetchy waiting for my Panel.

G'day thezone525

Cool. I understand your frustration.

FWiW

I'm in Melbourne, No 14 on the list, haven't heard anything.

Patiently waiting.

Mrmaxwell. I feel for you. "The best laid plans of mice and men."

If some have had calls, paid, received etc; why don't they post their progress? I know I couldn't wait to post the good news!

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Just a heads up for Melb people.. Apparently there is 1 panel but its in the middle of woop woop, so we're all going to have to wait til the next shipment...

Hrm.. I wonder if i can get a really good deal on a Samsung with a free 26"..

Thanks MrMaxwell for your hard work.. just a shame it didn't work out...

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I must say following the progress of this GB as an "outsider" that it is concerning to see the story change so often from the organiser. It's like a soap opera and the way it's panning out I reckon the last episode of the season is just around the corner. And we all know how much drama they manage to pack into the last episode, don't we?

Mate go back to your own GB and thanks for the comments :wacko:

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Thanks MrMaxwell for your hard work.. just a shame it didn't work out...

It has worked out for many people just not you yet....please be optimistic rather than posting negative comments every hour. - this helps no one - thanks :)

There is a shortage of 50" in VIC which is being looked at...42" will not be a problem.

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It has worked out for many people just not you yet....please be optimistic rather than posting negative comments every hour. - this helps no one - thanks :)

There is a shortage of 50" in VIC which is being looked at...42" will not be a problem.

Michael has said that he doesn't want to call people to tell them the bad news..

You make your own judgement..

At least Michael was upfront about it and said that, it'll work out just so long as you're prepared to wait.. I'm not.. I'd rather just be told a yes or no answer, rather than it dragging on and being told... yes.. tomorrow..

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It has worked out for many people just not you yet....please be optimistic rather than posting negative comments every hour. - this helps no one - thanks :)

There is a shortage of 50" in VIC which is being looked at...42" will not be a problem.

If the 42" is not a problem is there another reason for the delay? I only want a 42" !! :)

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