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Actually, Prime HD would be coming from Canberra as well. As far as I know, Prime doesn't have any transmission facilities in their Wollongong office.

Well if PRIME HD is coming from Canberra why:

1) Are there NO Canberra based ad's shown during programs on the HD channel, when there are on the SD channel?

2) Are the same ads on the HD channel not the same as the SD channel?

3) Does it frequently show commercials for shops and products based in and located in Wollongong?

Are you saying that the Wollongong businesses (with the exception of Shipwrecked from Warnambool Victoria) the only ones who advertise on PRIME HD, while the Canberra businesses can't get a look in? I'd be upset if I was a Canberra based business

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No idea about 1 and 3 (although I am sure I have seen ACT adverts on the HD channel in the past).

2. Because the HD channel is going through a different system than SD (ie. it is basically the HD feed from Seven apart from ads being inserted in). In other words, they are most likely only running one encoder (among other things like monitoring gear, playout servers) for HD, while SD they have at least one for each market.

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Just a heads up everyone ; I receive PrimeHD [complete with wollongong ads] in Newcastle and noticed for the first time tonight the new 7HD logo [with prism]. Only onscreen for a second -so either a subliminal ad or an editing stuff up ? . The mind is boggling :D

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Just a heads up everyone ; I receive PrimeHD [complete with wollongong ads] in Newcastle and noticed for the first time tonight the new 7HD logo [with prism]. Only onscreen for a second -so either a subliminal ad or an editing stuff up ? . The mind is boggling :D

You see PRIME do that quite a bit here - sometimes we'll see the Channel 7 classifications at the start of programs, or the Channel 7 supers over programming as well. as well as the infamous coming back to the Channel 7 feed a split second too early and catching the very last bit of the Channel 7 advertisement (happens alot during Deal Or No Deal in the new headlines update bit)

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All,

The commercials for PRIME are done in the following way. Due to current infrastructure, which i won't get into, the HD service is piped out to the public in two streams. One heads to our Southern market and the other to our Northern market. South being everywhere below and including Canberra and North being everything above. The commercials that are inserted are all nationals but are tailored for these two defined areas as well. The reason there are heaps of Wollongong ads is probably coincidental, i would need to check, but is most likely due to a national advertiser targeting Wollongong for whatever reason.

All broadcasting of Prime's telecast originates from Canberra's broadcast facility with commercials inserted at each relevant markets node. For example if an SD event is airing in Newcastle then those commercials are played out from Newcastle but it is still controlled / automated from Canberra. The program itself originates from 7 but is played out on Prime via Canberra.

We (Prime) will begin our HD Multichannel broadcasting as of tonight with Die Hard 2

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OK I'm watching Die Hard 2 on Prime HD up here in the Richmond/Tweed Prime Broadcast area, Boston legal is on the SD channel.

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Sweet, big thanks to prime for getting the HD channel to us so quick (could have been a lot more than 2 weeks) :D

Hopefully this may set the tone for the other stations when they start

Edit: Now all we need is a bit of 5.1 and 1920x1080 :P

Edited by lemonato

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Good to see Prime broadcasting multichannel HD.

However a Quick question to veratyr_99 if he can answer.

When will prime be doing 5.1 instead of DD 2.0?

Also Id just like to air my annoyance with prime showing SD on the HD channel. What this does is basically stuff any recording on my HTPC of the HD channel due to the switching between SD and HD. and requires a hell of a lot of work to TRY and extract any HD recording sometimes that just plain fails. Watching the channel live is fine thou.

Any chance that the HD channel will become just HD sometime in the future... Even if it is just upconverted SD would be better than constant changes.

Cheers,

Rob.

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Good to see Prime broadcasting multichannel HD.

However a Quick question to veratyr_99 if he can answer.

When will prime be doing 5.1 instead of DD 2.0?

Also Id just like to air my annoyance with prime showing SD on the HD channel. What this does is basically stuff any recording on my HTPC of the HD channel due to the switching between SD and HD. and requires a hell of a lot of work to TRY and extract any HD recording sometimes that just plain fails. Watching the channel live is fine thou.

Any chance that the HD channel will become just HD sometime in the future... Even if it is just upconverted SD would be better than constant changes.

Cheers,

Rob.

Yes the switching annoys me too, but the amount of mux switching involved in switching all our feeds back and forth from SD / HD takes time. At this point in time we are unable to leave it on full time due to reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread. But yes there are plans to make it HD full time. Unsure of the time frame but at the minute we just want to get it out there. The future will probably see running HD internally inhouse and then down converting it to SD as and where required. But this is still in the pipeline and will be a while off.

Most viewers, from what I have heard, prefer the SD being played out when no HD is to air as it reduces the amount of channels they need to worry about. Well it did until Multichannelling. My personal preference is the way it is now.

And we can only do the audio we receive from 7. At this point in time it is DD 2.0.

Hope this helps.

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Yes the switching annoys me too, but the amount of mux switching involved in switching all our feeds back and forth from SD / HD takes time.

If you have an LG PVR and set up a timer recording, the switching from SD to HD (and back) actually makes the unit think that there is no signal, so stops recording until the timer has passed, or, the HD is switched back on...annoying, but tolerable.

When will the full Prime HD multichannel start? Instead of just a couple of hours late at night

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Thanks veratyr 99 for giving us inside knowledge about Prime.

Now we need someone from SC10 to explain why so much TENHD programming does not appear on SC10 eg ARIA awards.

I don't suppose we need anyone from WIN as they seem determined to live in the dark ages and as far as i can see have no interest in HD whatsoever.

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Yes the PRIME HD ads are all from Wollongong (I posted this in the Canberra forum a few months ago and was told the HD transmitter for PRIME was there) however they also show ads for Victorian towns as well...

PRIME HD is the only place I can see the guy from Sturman Electronics (now that he has broken his leg and all...)

I actually saw the guy from Sturmans in the electronics section of Big W once. Thought it kinda funny

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If you have an LG PVR and set up a timer recording, the switching from SD to HD (and back) actually makes the unit think that there is no signal, so stops recording until the timer has passed, or, the HD is switched back on...annoying, but tolerable.

When will the full Prime HD multichannel start? Instead of just a couple of hours late at night

Interesting my LG STB can't handle the switch either, it just drops to no signal for a while. If you leave it long enough eventualy you can manual change the channel back to the HD one and it will have switched the stream. Meanwhile the Samsung HD STB I have just changes fine and so does my PC.

Edited by jab_au

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All,

The commercials for PRIME are done in the following way. Due to current infrastructure, which i won't get into, the HD service is piped out to the public in two streams. One heads to our Southern market and the other to our Northern market. South being everywhere below and including Canberra and North being everything above. The commercials that are inserted are all nationals but are tailored for these two defined areas as well. The reason there are heaps of Wollongong ads is probably coincidental, i would need to check, but is most likely due to a national advertiser targeting Wollongong for whatever reason.

All broadcasting of Prime's telecast originates from Canberra's broadcast facility with commercials inserted at each relevant markets node. For example if an SD event is airing in Newcastle then those commercials are played out from Newcastle but it is still controlled / automated from Canberra. The program itself originates from 7 but is played out on Prime via Canberra.

We (Prime) will begin our HD Multichannel broadcasting as of tonight with Die Hard 2

All,

Some of my previous posts have given the impression that i am a Prime Employee. However i am not. I am a person who is involved in the tv industry and have a friend who works for Prime and he has been the source of my information. I apologise for giving this impression to all viewers it was unintentional. As I was not directly quoting him and just typing as it entered my head in regards to what he said i am unable to verify if everything i have said is accurate. I also failed to add / modify any cut and pastes to include quotes where necessary. An example is the following :

"We (Prime) will begin our HD Multichannel broadcasting as of tonight with Die Hard 2"

This was actually a comment made to me on Saturday in general chit chat and when I realised it was going to air decided to inform everyone. The words i were told was actually "Monday Night" rather than "tonight"

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Yes the switching annoys me too, but the amount of mux switching involved in switching all our feeds back and forth from SD / HD takes time. At this point in time we are unable to leave it on full time due to reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread. But yes there are plans to make it HD full time. Unsure of the time frame but at the minute we just want to get it out there. The future will probably see running HD internally inhouse and then down converting it to SD as and where required. But this is still in the pipeline and will be a while off.

Most viewers, from what I have heard, prefer the SD being played out when no HD is to air as it reduces the amount of channels they need to worry about. Well it did until Multichannelling. My personal preference is the way it is now.

And we can only do the audio we receive from 7. At this point in time it is DD 2.0.

Hope this helps.

This SD and HD switching has callused my computer to crash in the past and also sometimes messes up timers on my PVR. Prime is the only channel doing this and they should reconsider what they are doing. Last night I thought I might watch the movie on Prime HD. Prime HD switched to SD during (interrupting) the News (unnecessarily). Then the SD to HD switch kicked in a bit late and cut the first few seconds of the film. I gave up on Prime HD after the first poorly timed ad break switching cut more of the film.

Prime please just keep your HD channel in HD mode all the time and up-convert the SD when you have to. Seven, Nine and Ten all do this in capital Cities. WIN and SC Ten keep the HD channels in HD mode with loops filling gaps.

Does it even meet the broadcasting standards to constantly flip back and forth a HD channel to SD?

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