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There is another thread about settings over here:

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=54940

But there isn't much discussion on it. I'm interested in what settings others are using too. I've the 52X viewed from 3m and find both Vivid and Standard way too artifical looking, so I've been tinkering with making changes in Custom. What I'm aiming for is natural looking, or at least what the film maker intended. Here's what I've got so far:

Backlight: 3 (To help the blacks look deeper. Generally watch at night. Could be dropped lower still)

Picture: 72 (I've had this as high as 80 and as low as 65, but finally now settled on 72)

Brightness: 50 (I'm tempted to lower this a tad to help with blacks, but so far have left it on 50)

Color: 50 (Don't like the over saturated look.)

Hue: 50

Color Temperature: Netural (Don't like the yellowy look of "Warm" or the Blue tinge in "Cool", prefer Netural)

Sharpness: 60

Noise Reduction: Low (Anything higher than "low" seems to incur detail loss)

MPEG Noise Reduction: High (Can't see any detail loss from "High", and want to avoid compression artifacts)

DRC Mode: Off (Setting it to even "low" produces artifacts, like oversharping or something. Set off it looks smooth, but clear of artifacts. I prefer it off for this reason. Plus "off" gets rid of the jaggies in SD content)

DRC Palette: N/A

Black Corrector: Off (Even a low setting here crushes the shadow detail, making this unuseable, which is a pity because blacks would be the only negative thing about this TV)

Advanced C.E.: Low (In an attempt to improve blacks. It does whiten skin tones a little though, but I can live with that)

Gamma: Off

Clear White: Off

Color Space: Standard (Setting "wide" makes everyone look yellow)

Live Color: Off

White Balance: Normal, didn't play with it.

Detail Enhancer: High. (I like this. Freeze frame a scene with lots of detail, like hair or fur on an animal. Then watch this setting add clarity out of thin air. Nice!)

Edge Enhancer: Off (Not sure what this does, but if it sharpens edges, surely that will create the very jaggies we'd all rather avoid?)

Motion Enhancer: Standard (Nice. "High" introduces jerkiness and wild random junk in heavily detailed fast moving areas, but "Standard" seems to work well. Smooths out motion nicely).

CineMotion: Auto 2

I'm loving my 52X! At 3m even (good quality) SD looks very watchable with the above settings and HD is amazing.

Congratulations Chokstone,

This is exactly the sort of input I was hoping this thread would produce!

It will be very interesting to see what settings receive general approbation.

The SXRD findings were fascinating.

Apropos your last point, regarding viewing distance, there are various suggestions.

My own suggestion is twice the picture diagonal.

I base this on the suggestion that four times the picture height is a good starting point.

If you apply Pythagorarse to 16:9 to find the length of the diagonal, the outcome is very close to 18 i.e. twice the picture height.

Hence four times the picture height is twice the diagonal.

This can be very useful in answering friends requests about what size HDTV they should purchase.

Cheers

Bry

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Pythagorarse

gold!

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gold!

Hi operator,

A bit of schoolboy nonsense actually!

Cheers

Bry

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As a new X3100 owner I am extremely happy with the tv.

Setup was simple to go through. I found the vivid setting to bright and over exposed and used one of the picture settings that one of the users has sent in and picture quality is superb, all natural.

SD looks ok not the best as you would expect from a TV that can display 1080p.

Watched CSI: Miami in HD last night and my jaw just dropped. Could see every strand of hair, freckles and pimples on the face very clear. The colours were also excellent.

Watched Casino Royale and Disturbed on Blu-ray with some friends that had come over on Saturday and they were in awe at the sheer quality of the PQ, I was also.

So far everything has been going smoothly no problems with the TV on a technical stand point.

:D:D

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As a new X3100 owner I am extremely happy with the tv.

Setup was simple to go through. I found the vivid setting to bright and over exposed and used one of the picture settings that one of the users has sent in and picture quality is superb, all natural.

SD looks ok not the best as you would expect from a TV that can display 1080p.

Watched CSI: Miami in HD last night and my jaw just dropped. Could see every strand of hair, freckles and pimples on the face very clear. The colours were also excellent.

Watched Casino Royale and Disturbed on Blu-ray with some friends that had come over on Saturday and they were in awe at the sheer quality of the PQ, I was also.

So far everything has been going smoothly no problems with the TV on a technical stand point.

:D:D

Hi is it possible to get the details of the settings you used?

Edited by fotski

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Hi guys,

A bit off topic but has anyone got the dimensions of the packaging. Picking up the 46" on the weekend and not sure if I can fit it in the vehicle.

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I also use the optical output of my X3100 to connect my home theatre system, and got DD sound. But I found there is lip sync problem with this. The sound comes a bit late than image. not sure it is TV's problem or home theatre's.

There was a mention of Lip sync issues in the GB forum a few pages back. the guy in question made mention of Sony having an updated firmware available to fix this issue

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?act=Sea...ighlite=%2Bsync

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Hi guys,

A bit off topic but has anyone got the dimensions of the packaging. Picking up the 46" on the weekend and not sure if I can fit it in the vehicle.

The below measurements are from the side of the 46" XBR box itself:

Length: 1384mm / Width: 380mm / Height: 910 mm.

Net Weight: 39kg / Gross Weight 48kg

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I'm a boring guy, using Standard with most defaults but changed colour to normal instead of wide. Cinema mode is quite watchable when it's dark though. Power saving is on Low which dims the screen to a comfortable level. I use motion flow standard and cinema drive off (Auto 1 is "kinda" cool makes film look like video but only works about 40% of the time and thus just looks weird - I assume since Auto 2 and Off do the same thing, Auto 2 also does 3:2 pulldown provided NTSC film content).

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Hi is it possible to get the details of the settings you used?
General TV Viewing

Backlight: 3

Picture: 76

Brightness: 49

Color: 52

Hue: 0

Color Temperature: Neutral

Sharpness: 30

Noise Reduction: off

MPEG Noise Reduction: off

DRC Mode: Off

Black Corrector: Low

Advanced C.E.: off

Gama: off

Clear White: off

Color Space: Standard

Live Color: Low

White Balance

R-Gain: -2

G-Gain: -3

B-Gain: 0

R-Bias: -1

G-Bias: -2

B-Bias: 0

Detail Enhancer: Low

Edge Enhancer: off

Motionflow: Standard

Cinemotion: Auto2

PS3 via HDMI

Backlight: 2

Picture: 76

Brightness: 50

Color: 52

Hue: 0

Color Temperature: Neutral

Sharpness: 30

Noise Reduction: off

MPEG Noise Reduction: off

DRC Mode: Off

Black Corrector: off

Advanced C.E.: off

Gama: off

Clear White: off

Color Space: Standard

Live Color: off

White Balance

R-Gain: 0

G-Gain: 0

B-Gain: 0

R-Bias: 0

G-Bias: 0

B-Bias: 0

Detail Enhancer: Low

Edge Enhancer: Low

Motionflow: Standard

Cinemotion: Auto2

credit: quacka

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Click for more > Official Aus 'Sony Bravia X Series' Calibration Thread

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The below measurements are from the side of the 46" XBR box itself:

Length: 1384mm / Width: 380mm / Height: 910 mm.

Net Weight: 39kg / Gross Weight 48kg

Thanks a million :D

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I am about to purchase the a 40" D Series Barvia...just wondering whether I could pick up the tv myself instead of getting it delivered...Can anyone tell me the dimension of the box.

Thanks

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Has anyone seen or heard of the Clouding and Flash Lights that some were reporting in the AVS forum?

So far i've heard no mention of it. I know there were some who had the problem with the previous model but so far all is good.

Are our panels off the same production line? Or do you think the issue has been resolved?

I've got flash light effect on mine. Its not as bad as some of the images I saw from the last series, I hope it doesnt get worse... thats when I will concider returning it.

Any other owners here slight flashlights? You can only notice it with the lights off/dark room and a dark scene being displayed.

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I've got flash light effect on mine. Its not as bad as some of the images I saw from the last series, I hope it doesnt get worse... thats when I will concider returning it.

Any other owners here slight flashlights? You can only notice it with the lights off/dark room and a dark scene being displayed.

thats not auto backlight control playing tricks on you, is it?

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thats not auto backlight control playing tricks on you, is it?

Dont think so, you mean the light sensor setting? I have all that stuff off.

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I've got flash light effect on mine. Its not as bad as some of the images I saw from the last series, I hope it doesnt get worse... thats when I will concider returning it.

Any other owners here slight flashlights? You can only notice it with the lights off/dark room and a dark scene being displayed.

Yes, my 40X3100 has a slight but noticeable "flashlight" effect in the top right corner. There is also some mura effect ("clouds") on startup but this diminishes after the TV has been on for a few minutes.

As someone who's used computer LCD displays for years, I don't find either of these especially unusual, and they don't impact normal viewing at all (no, not even dark scenes).

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Just bought a 46inch X series yesterday.. Picture is amazing!!

Quick question.. Is there other options to fine tune the picture??

As in get better quality?

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I have just bought a new 46XBR and have slight flashlight issues extending from the corners. It is only noticeable when changing inputs/ fully black screen. I have turned the backlight to zero and it is still evident. Just thought I would add to the knowledge base. If it gets worse then a return will be on the cards....

CD

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Viewing angle on these is still an outright lie. 180 degrees is just not happening. If you go even 30 degrees off centre, the blacks turn to brown and the colours begin to wash out. Any more and it's just horrible. If I wasn't watching this thing from front on at an optimal eye level all the time, I'd absolutely hate LCD.

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I have just bought a new 46XBR and have slight flashlight issues extending from the corners. It is only noticeable when changing inputs/ fully black screen. I have turned the backlight to zero and it is still evident. Just thought I would add to the knowledge base. If it gets worse then a return will be on the cards....

CD

I believe this is really just viewing angle stuff. If your TV is big enough or you are sitting close enough, the corners are being viewed from a considerably different angle from the middle, making the colours/blacks different. So just a caveat of LCD.

By the way, has anyone found a use for "Wide Zoom" viewing mode? "Zoom" makes letterboxed 4:3 content full screen with correct aspect, but "Wide Zoom" seems useless. I thought it would be for displaying 2.35 as 1.76 with sides cut off, all it does is slightly stretch the vertical and do nothing for the horizontal - resulting in incorrect aspect, slightly vertically stretched 16:9 picture - ie. pointless.

Edited by darkfalz

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I believe this is really just viewing angle stuff. If your TV is big enough or you are sitting close enough, the corners are being viewed from a considerably different angle from the middle, making the colours/blacks different. So just a caveat of LCD.

By the way, has anyone found a use for "Wide Zoom" viewing mode? "Zoom" makes letterboxed 4:3 content full screen with correct aspect, but "Wide Zoom" seems useless. I thought it would be for displaying 2.35 as 1.76 with sides cut off, all it does is slightly stretch the vertical and do nothing for the horizontal - resulting in incorrect aspect, slightly vertically stretched 16:9 picture - ie. pointless.

Wide Zoom enlarges the centre portion of the picture. The left & right edges of the picture are stretched to fill the 16:9 screen.

Zoom displays cinemascope broadcasts in their correct proportions, filling the 16:9 screen.

Full is the mode you use to stretch a 4:3 picture horizontally to fill the 16:9 screen.

Personally i like to watch the programme in it's native aspect and leave the screen in normal mode.

No flaslight or backlight problems with my XBR either.

Best to sit directly in front to view. Even when i go to the cinema i hate sitting right up front or to the sides, so why should it be any different at home!

Edited by Trigg

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I am waiting on delivery of a new 40" D series , and was wondering if any owners could share there experiences and calibration settings .

Also what sort of setup is advised for these units when your using an av receiver ? At the moment I have everything going through my AV receiver both for video and sound , video just uses component out at this stage and for my CRT it looks wonderful , it also has a HDMI out to the monitor if i want to change to that the only catch is that it only has one HDMI input and that is the only input that would be sent to the tv via HDMI grrr..

How i have a TV with HDMI though i am wondering what the best configuration is to get the best quality sound aswell as image out of my setup, At this stage i think i am thinking of still running most things through component via the AV reciver but I have noticed that pretty much everyone here seems to have gone down the path of inputs into the TV and then output to their AV recivers and was wondering why they made this choice as it seems to be more prone to the issues i have always worried about ( sound not in sync with vid ) I have only had this once running the way i am currently when i had the reciver on suround sound but not the dvd player which i fixed quick enough , but some of the small things seem to be a litte bit different now with hdmi and dolby digital and would love to hear from more experienced people :)

thankyou for any help :)

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I know what Wide Zoom does, I just don't get what useful purpose it serves. It really doesn't change the width at all (I was doing it on a freeze frame with easy edges), all it does is vertically stretch the image a little bit - pointless in the extreme. Normal Zoom does great for "cinemascope" junk.

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Just picked up a 40 X last week but have noticed a slight humming sound coming from the TV's left hand side when it's

in use.

When I mute the sound I can hear it (we sit about 2.5m away, sounds like a electrical humming sound), obviously less noticable if I am watching something.

Just wondering if others have experienced this, and whether I should be returning this one for a replacement?

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