WhiteGuM Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 The best plasmas currently available (except 5000ex) are PS50c/q91, th50px70/700 and was PDP507.The 507 was completely outlcassed by both Pana and Sam at the end. It wasn't a fair fight though, the 507 was released in Oct '06, the Pana and Sammy are just 2mths old, or 2 generations ahead. The Sammy has almost a pinkish colour cast to the filter, the blacks are no where near black. The Panasonic is (when setup) much darker. This is bollocks. I've just come from a demonstration tonight that clearly showed even the 507 having better blacks than the current gen Panny no matter what you did with the settings. The 507 completely outclasses both the current gen Pana and Samsung in picture quality at any cost, let alone the 508. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 The 507 was completely outlcassed by both Pana and Sam at the end. It wasn't a fair fight though, the 507 was released in Oct '06, the Pana and Sammy are just 2mths old, or 2 generations ahead. I'll go the next step Chats. The Pioneer 50MXE20 is a cut above the 507. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EZYHD Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I can't imagine a better picture than I see on my Pio 507. Many vistors to our abode often comment how clear and sharp the picture is. and one buys what one can afford. mmm. 5000 posts as of today, better get a life uh'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mining Man Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 The best plasmas currently available (except 5000ex) are PS50c/q91, th50px70/700 and was PDP507.The 507 was completely outlcassed by both Pana and Sam at the end. It wasn't a fair fight though, the 507 was released in Oct '06, the Pana and Sammy are just 2mths old, or 2 generations ahead. The Sammy has almost a pinkish colour cast to the filter, the blacks are no where near black. The Panasonic is (when setup) much darker. Like I said, a review is just a review. He said, they said, he said, they said... So I'll repeat the crux of my post: In reviews, Panasonic hasn't been placed ahead of Pioneer often enough to be able to claim "best blacks available" without provoking strong argument. And it looks like you've provoked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mining Man Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I can't imagine a better picture than I see on my Pio 507. Many vistors to our abode often comment how clear and sharp the picture is.and one buys what one can afford. mmm. 5000 posts as of today, better get a life uh'. Congrats Foxy!! 5000 of the best. I know my HT is less messy than it might be otherwise, were it not for your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbreed Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I'll go the next step Chats.The Pioneer 50MXE20 is a cut above the 507. IMHO. A BIG leap above the 507! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50mxe20 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I can't imagine a better picture than I see on my Pio 507. Many vistors to our abode often comment how clear and sharp the picture is.When you come to Perth I'll show you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EZYHD Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Congrats Foxy!! 5000 of the best. I know my HT is less messy than it might be otherwise, were it not for your posts. Thanks MM. Really! end of hijack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDL Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Just my 2c, but it really is just reiterating what others have said. Pioneer are not saying JB can't sell their sets, in fact JB can still sell the same type of Pioneer they have always sold, the 768 models. I also question whether JB are upset about the 1080p models as was suggested on here, or whether it is the new model for commissions that I hear Pioneer have introduced on those sets where the stores are going to make less on them but get a bonus paid on number of units sold over the year. In any event nothing from a type of plasma to be sold has changed from JB's perspective and any whining is just plain silly. Pioneer would be pushing a barrow up hill if they did put $10K sets in a shop that sells $2K sets to average joe who wouldn't know 1080p from 480i and with no-one trained to set them up properly and sell the benefits all they would do would have Pio's collecting dust and appearing and getting the reputation for being overpriced. The new 1080P models are a top of the line model and like any flagship model for an organisation can be seperated and sold differently if they choose this is the model they want. They are most likely trying to seperate it from being a commodity item to a top of the range HD HT experience and will likely produce a lot less and expect less cost cutting. Producing a 1080 v 768 costs a hell of a lot more for plasma. This is not unlike the Lexus as a car selling seperately, speaker manufacturers like Klipsch selling Synergy through HN and Reference through specialists, and any number of other organisations that split their sales of lower end and higher end models into different outlets for different customers. As for pricing of standard Pio's (the 768 plasmas) I have owned one for a year and am extremely happy, so much so I took my parents out and recommended they get a similar one recently. I also own a Pana700A and while happy can see the Pio is a better panel and use the Pana as day to day viewing for Foxtel and my baby to watch cartoons while the Pio gets the HD DVD's and used to watch the better quality shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mining Man Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Just my 2c, but it really is just reiterating what others have said...~ Perhaps, but you reiterated very, very well. Worth a lot more than 2c in my mind. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahc Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 A BIG leap above the 507! yes but when negotiating with the ceo i could only achieve so much..............the impossible was just that............ the impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) having only read the first few posts I deduce that the thread starter is a Pioneer fanboy, bitter that he can't afford one. save your money or buy something else mate Edited September 30, 2007 by walkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 hehe in the us, pio actually badge their top line stuff under the 'elite' brand name. over here much the same stuff jsut comes in under the pio name. is it pio trying to create a pint of differentiation or is all this jsut marketing, brand management/ brand or badge engineering ? really I think we are all equiped to make our own judgements arent we ?, after peoples own impression of what is good value or not is really going to vary from person to person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dB10 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Don't blame the seller if you can't afford what they are selling....Senverse very true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joecool Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'll go the next step Chats.The Pioneer 50MXE20 is a cut above the 507. IMHO. By far!!! And better outta the box too. You won't see much difference between a calibrated and non calibrated MXE. THey are not set up for a showroom (pushed reds and blues) like he 507. But a 507 needs a cal. Just look at what the calibrators own. MXE! Oh, and the MXE's are/were only a few hundred more than a 507, including STB. So over the life of the panel, the added cost is nothing really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisvegas1 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Oh, and the MXE's are/were only a few hundred more than a 507, including STB. So over the life of the panel, the added cost is nothing really! The real question is - how will the MXE's compare to the 508 Kuro's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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