Joecool 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 Steed I'd say have a look at the Pioneer web site. They seem to promote the MXE as a presentation panel. http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/commerc...lays/index.html Problem is that it may be hard to get someone to connect a Powerbook or something like that to a panel in a specialist store....and still have time to still get in on the GB. Link to post Share on other sites
peterjcat 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I agree with you hence my first choice for the LCD however, as I said I like to keep my options open and have been advised that the 50MXE20 is the Plasma equivalent of a computer monitor and has been tested and used as such in commercial applications. However, all said and done, could anyone either confirm or dismiss this line of thinking. I would imagine that for the applications you mention you'd see significant benefits from your Sony's 1920x1080 resolution that you wouldn't get from the Pio's 1365x768 -- and that you'd often be sitting or standing close enough to tell the difference. Like if it were me, I'd want my clients to be able to lean in close and get as much detail of my photographic skills as I could give them. The MXE may be the plasma version of a computer monitor, but the Sony more is less IS a computer monitor. And that's even if you don't believe in burn-in/image retention, which frankly I don't know what to believe anymore and am going to be a little bit cautious no matter what Lyle says. All this is guesswork, though, because I haven't done a direct comparison and am still waiting for my MXE Link to post Share on other sites
Steed 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 SteedI'd say have a look at the Pioneer web site. They seem to promote the MXE as a presentation panel. http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/commerc...lays/index.html Problem is that it may be hard to get someone to connect a Powerbook or something like that to a panel in a specialist store....and still have time to still get in on the GB. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I have recently had a few issues with a Pioneer top end product that is being rectified with little fuss (I must admit, I am impressed with Pioneers after sales service hence why I am looking at potentially changing from the Sony LCD to the Pioneer) and I have been fortunate enough to discuss several technical topics with Pioneer directly. One topic discussed was the 50MXE20 and that it has been selling well into large corporations as a display device for presentations etc. and that it actually has an option of placing a sleeve over the plasma to use as a touch screen during these presentations. That to me sounds like it is an extremely stable plasma with pixel shifting to such a refined extent that burn in is no longer an issue hence my interest. Link to post Share on other sites
50mxe20 4 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 The MXE may be the plasma version of a computer monitor, but the Sony more is less IS a computer monitor. And that's even if you don't believe in burn-in/image retention, which frankly I don't know what to believe anymore and am going to be a little bit cautious no matter what Lyle says. That's good, because if you are aware that there could be a problem, chances are, you will never have it. It tends to only happen if one is a bit silly (ie, leave a fixed static image up for 30 hours). However, even if you did this the retention could be removed. My source for these comments comes from a very reliable source. Link to post Share on other sites
Steed 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I would imagine that for the applications you mention you'd see significant benefits from your Sony's 1920x1080 resolution that you wouldn't get from the Pio's 1365x768 -- and that you'd often be sitting or standing close enough to tell the difference. Like if it were me, I'd want my clients to be able to lean in close and get as much detail of my photographic skills as I could give them. The MXE may be the plasma version of a computer monitor, but the Sony more is less IS a computer monitor. And that's even if you don't believe in burn-in/image retention, which frankly I don't know what to believe anymore and am going to be a little bit cautious no matter what Lyle says. All this is guesswork, though, because I haven't done a direct comparison and am still waiting for my MXE Many thanks for this reply as it highlighted an issue that was right in front of my nose all the time but for some reason I missed (i.e native panel resolution) and consequently, I will be sticking with the Sony LCD as, stated above, I am extremely happy with the panel to date. Link to post Share on other sites
50mxe20 4 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Many thanks for this reply as it highlighted an issue that was right in front of my nose all the time but for some reason I missed (i.e native panel resolution) and consequently, I will be sticking with the Sony LCD as, stated above, I am extremely happy with the panel to date.That's good too.We all have to make the best decision with the information we have and what our own needs and preferences dictate.. Any one who tells you different is off the mark. Link to post Share on other sites
peterjcat 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 That's good, because if you are aware that there could be a problem, chances are, you will never have it.It tends to only happen if one is a bit silly (ie, leave a fixed static image up for 30 hours). However, even if you did this the retention could be removed. My source for these comments comes from a very reliable source. No I was just being facetious really, I was very encouraged by your comments on the burn-in thread. Trouble is I do tend to be a bit silly, eg pause TV for a phone call then wander off and make a sandwich etc. I'll be slightly more vigilant than with the CRT but will take great comfort from your experience and inside scoop. Link to post Share on other sites
50mxe20 4 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 No I was just being facetious really, I was very encouraged by your comments on the burn-in thread. Trouble is I do tend to be a bit silly, eg pause TV for a phone call then wander off and make a sandwich etc. I'll be slightly more vigilant than with the CRT but will take great comfort from your experience and inside scoop.Doesn't matter, I was serious. I really believe this plasma will not give you problems unless you seriously abuse it. It was designed for commercial situations. The 30 hours might really need to 100 hours but I don't like to stick my neck out quite that far. Link to post Share on other sites
peterjcat 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Doesn't matter, I was serious. I really believe this plasma will not give you problems unless you seriously abuse it. It was designed for commercial situations. The 30 hours might really need to 100 hours but I don't like to stick my neck out quite that far. How bout we leave a fixed static image up on both our screens and see who cracks first? Plasma chicken! Link to post Share on other sites
50mxe20 4 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 How bout we leave a fixed static image up on both our screens and see who cracks first?Plasma chicken! You start first. Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 You start first. Clever, as ever, Lyle!! Link to post Share on other sites
brdd 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Excellent news TNT just rang and will deliver my panel at 11am today YESSSSSS !! Link to post Share on other sites
brdd 0 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Oops ... almost forgot Thankyou to Joecool and the BPP team for a sterling effort all round Look forward to the happy viewer posts Cheers guys Brent Link to post Share on other sites
alku83 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Woo, got my phone call! Plasma will be arriving tomorrow morning. Thankyou Nick and Jason and anyone else involved! Link to post Share on other sites
peterjcat 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Woo, got my phone call! Plasma will be arriving tomorrow morning.Thankyou Nick and Jason and anyone else involved! Mine too! Thanks dittoed. Link to post Share on other sites
mccamli 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 C'mon phone...RING!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Stubn1503561382 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 W00t... mine has just been delivered... now to wall mount it...... Link to post Share on other sites
peterjcat 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 W00t... mine has just been delivered... now to wall mount it...... Adelaide has all the luck! Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 C'mon phone...RING!!!! Yeah right Ian. Livin' in paradise!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 W00t... mine has just been delivered... now to wall mount it...... Jesus!!!!! The last to order and the first to get his panel.....man that's unbelievable! Link to post Share on other sites
skippyboy1503561353 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Just drove home and saw the TNT van drive down the street, chased after him and said sorry there was no one at home i did not get a phone call, driver said no worries mate i left it in your drive way, i said you *******ing what! RACED HOME heart pounding---- saw box still there, went to carry it into the house , funny i thought it would be more heavy than this, opened box---------------poker table i won in wild turkey comp. bugger Link to post Share on other sites
50mxe20 4 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Just drove home and saw the TNT van drive down the street, chased after him and said sorry there was no one at home i did not get a phone call, driver said no worries mate i left it in your drive way, i said you *******ing what! RACED HOME heart pounding---- saw box still there, went to carry it into the house , funny i thought it would be more heavy than this, opened box---------------poker table i won in wild turkey comp. buggerWhat a great story! Link to post Share on other sites
Stubn1503561382 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Just drove home and saw the TNT van drive down the street, chased after him and said sorry there was no one at home i did not get a phone call, driver said no worries mate i left it in your drive way, i said you *******ing what! RACED HOME heart pounding---- saw box still there, went to carry it into the house , funny i thought it would be more heavy than this, opened box---------------poker table i won in wild turkey comp. bugger As Lyle said.... what a cool story ! Seriously tho.. i didnt get a phone call until the TNT guy was at my gates.... lucky my partner was home and she let him in. I wonder if they would have just left it on the driveway. Link to post Share on other sites
Zacspeed 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 As Lyle said.... what a cool story ! Seriously tho.. i didnt get a phone call until the TNT guy was at my gates.... lucky my partner was home and she let him in. I wonder if they would have just left it on the driveway. Yeha that would be sweet if they did even. "Plasma screen, what plasma screen in my driveway" They'd not leave it unless they got a signature. Link to post Share on other sites
djOS 126 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Wooo Hooo, mine arrived today however Pioneer never bothered to call before hand, luckily my folks were home. Link to post Share on other sites
chris@aanet 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Wooo Hooo, mine arrived today however Pioneer never bothered to call before hand, luckily my folks were home. That's a worry if TNT are just going to roll up without calling! Link to post Share on other sites
jayda 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Didn't someone else go for a 42inch as well? After contacting Pioneer about picking up from BPP, it's been suggested that the 42inch is on back order He said this came to his attention last week.....I'm really wondering about Pioneer customer service - well lack of anyway. Congratulations to those that have received theirs! Link to post Share on other sites
chris@aanet 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Wooo Hooo, mine arrived today however Pioneer never bothered to call before hand, luckily my folks were home. Anybody have theirs set up yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 Chris I doubt we'll hear from anyone tonight, as they'll be sitting with a drooling grin on their couch, and unable to get up to come to the computer or camera to take a pic for us still waiting!! *sniff* Link to post Share on other sites
daob 1 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Wooo Hooo, mine arrived today however Pioneer never bothered to call before hand, luckily my folks were home. TNT arrived today to deliver mine, alas, no-one home to sign a delivery note..........and, no phone call beforehand. Queried customer service at TNT about the driver calling ahead tomorrow to let me know when to zip home to receive but "drivers aren't issued with TNT mobile phones" was the reason for why that was not possible. So much for TNT's "sophisticated electronic systems that are creating a truly interactive distribution environment". Next available delivery would be in 48hrs. I'll be damned if I have to wait another 48hrs! Lucky I've a mate with a van big enough to collect direct from the depot. Oh well, at least they got it to Adelaide quickly and I'll have my hands on it tomorrow. BTW skippy, in stitches with your story today. Heh Heh Heh Link to post Share on other sites
chris@aanet 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 ChrisI doubt we'll hear from anyone tonight, as they'll be sitting with a drooling grin on their couch, and unable to get up to come to the computer or camera to take a pic for us still waiting!! *sniff* Yeah I know. Unable and unwilling. Would be nice to get some feedback. Still I know you won't disappoint Nick. I'll have my laptop with me while I'm away over the weekend to keep in touch. Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 Here's my before shot.....note the poor excuse for a TV I am currently using.....disgraceful! http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/Jo...50/DSC_8106.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
daob 1 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Here's my before shot.....note the poor excuse for a TV I am currently using.....disgraceful! Ooh Nick, I haven't yet gone as far as sticking a folded bit of paper on the wall but here is my pre-TV shot. EDIT link to pic Link to post Share on other sites
djOS 126 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Anybody have theirs set up yet? Nope, mine will be sitting in its box for at least another 6 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites
Scalpel 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Nope, mine will be sitting in its box for at least another 6 weeks. I'll mind it and break it in for you Just as a favour, you understand. J. Link to post Share on other sites
djOS 126 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I'll mind it and break it in for youJust as a favour, you understand. J. You'll have to get into line Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 I'll mind it and break it in for youJust as a favour, you understand. J. Hey Julian You already got your plasma mate......no Panasonic paws on our Pioneers!! Gee I'm already sounding like a Pioneer snob! Link to post Share on other sites
mccamli 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Here's my before shot.....note the poor excuse for a TV I am currently using.....disgraceful!http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/Jo...50/DSC_8106.jpg You might be in for a bit of disappointment Nick...sure the new screen might have moving pictures but no way it's going to be as flat as your current model (obviously I'm not talking about the CRT!!!) Link to post Share on other sites
Joecool 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 You might be in for a bit of disappointment Nick...sure the new screen might have moving pictures but no way it's going to be as flat as your current model (obviously I'm not talking about the CRT!!!) Nor as light either!! I really can't wait for this panel.......grrrrr. Surely someone can post a pic of their MXE turned on!!!!?? Link to post Share on other sites
chris@aanet 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Here's my before shot.....note the poor excuse for a TV I am currently using.....disgraceful!http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m195/Jo...50/DSC_8106.jpg And here's mine. http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa16/ch.../Picture007.jpg http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa16/ch.../Picture008.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
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