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No, I'm pretty sure it remembers each input independantly

Hmm, seems strange that they would remove this feature in the new models........ :blink:

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The PZ models are going to be expensive.

42" RRP at 2500 Pounds in the UK available in June

50" RRP at 2800 Pounds

The PX70 Model for 42" is RRP at 950 Pounts.

That is a huge $ difference for a extra billion pixals.

http://www.avland.co.uk/plasma/index.htm#plasma

I don't think 2800 pounds is that bad. Thats about $6300Au. The Pioneer 5000ex is $11,000, the 52" X Bravia is $9999. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. If it's even close to the picture quality of the 5000ex it's will sell by the truck load.

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If it's even close to the picture quality of the 5000ex it's will sell by the truck load.

In reality whats the difference in PQ over the 50" Full HD Pio or Pana panel compared with the 50" HD 1366 x 768?

I know theres all theoretical answers to this but wondered in practice what its like.

When labs etc review panels, the resolution is rated 4th on the list of important features as the colour depth, perception, contrast etc gives the panel more impact.

The Full HD panels (Panasonic atleast) have a contrast ratio of 5000:1 so wondered if it all makes a difference.

+EDIT+

I noticed in reading the link re the 1080p release in the USA that on the 42" the Pana specialist commented on how you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference.

So for now is it just wank factor?

Im after a 50" but wondered how it would compare.

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The PZ models are going to be expensive.

42" RRP at 2500 Pounds in the UK available in June

50" RRP at 2800 Pounds

The PX70 Model for 42" is RRP at 950 Pounts.

That is a huge $ difference for a extra billion pixals.

http://www.avland.co.uk/plasma/index.htm#plasma

The gizmodo article says the 42" will be $2499 USD = $3095 AUD. 2500 pounds = $6075 AUD.

:blink:

I'd pay around $4k for that screen. I wouldn't pay over $6k.

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In reality whats the difference in PQ over the 50" Full HD Pio or Pana panel compared with the 50" HD 1366 x 768?

I know theres all theoretical answers to this but wondered in practice what its like.

When labs etc review panels, the resolution is rated 4th on the list of important features as the colour depth, perception, contrast etc gives the panel more impact.

The Full HD panels (Panasonic atleast) have a contrast ratio of 5000:1 so wondered if it all makes a difference.

+EDIT+

I noticed in reading the link re the 1080p release in the USA that on the 42" the Pana specialist commented on how you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference.

So for now is it just wank factor?

Im after a 50" but wondered how it would compare.

The Pioneer PDP-5000ex running with a 1080p source is without a doubt the BEST panel out there! The difference between the 507 & the 5000ex at about 3 meters is night and day!

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So the 1080P TH-42PZ700 isn't 1080P at all?? :blink:

The TH-58PZ700U, TH-50PZ700U and the TH-42PZ700 -- combined with the hold-over current 65-inch and 103-inch Plasmas, offer an incredible resolution of 1920 x 1080p.
TH-42PZ700

1366 x 768 resolution, side firing

speakers, SD Memory Card slot, 2

HDMI inputs, EZ-Sync, Anti-Glare

coating, Gallery Player

June 2007 $2499.95

The 750 models sound interesting with the "Studio Reference Mode" and "Pro Setting Mode"

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Has anyone heard of an Australian release date? It shouldn't be too much longer.

The PX700 series will be released in June localy.

The 1080p PZ series will not be released here until October.

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The Pioneer PDP-5000ex running with a 1080p source is without a doubt the BEST panel out there! The difference between the 507 & the 5000ex at about 3 meters is night and day!

Agreed.....but ppl will still try and justify 1366x768 at greater then 2.2m as being no different.

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Has anyone heard of an Australian release date? It shouldn't be too much longer.

The PX700 series will be released in June localy.

The 1080p PZ series will not be released here until October.

Thanks for the information. Surprised it would take so long for the PZ models to hit OZ considering they are being released in the US and UK already.

It will give SONY, Samsung and other full HD screen a long lead time before the PZ models hit.

Where did you get the info from?

Rob

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The user unfriendliness in that there are no numbers when adjusting colour, brightness, contract etc is poor. The lack of independant memory input for sources is also bad. You must adjust foxtel differently to FTA for example. Is the same with the current Pana plasma models as well??

No, I'm pretty sure it remembers each input independantly

Current 600 series Pana models definitely remember each input setting independantly.

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Nice price available to the U.S. via Ebay for the TH50PZ700.

I know the auction has ended but still, it's encouraging for us.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Panasonic-TH50PZ700-50-...8QQcmdZViewItem

Pre-order at a bricks and mortar store in Canada.

http://www.audiotronic.ca/eSection/electrP...odPrd=TH50PZ700

Holy sheet, it uses 700watts!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....al#post10272755

The Manual

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH58PZ700U.PDF

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The PX700 series will be released in June localy.

The 1080p PZ series will not be released here until October.

Thanks for the information. Surprised it would take so long for the PZ models to hit OZ considering they are being released in the US and UK already.

It will give SONY, Samsung and other full HD screen a long lead time before the PZ models hit.

Where did you get the info from?

Rob

I tried checking with Panasonic and both via the email and phone support they refused to give any dates for the new models. The phone support even attempted to tell me the current model came out 4 months ago and there is no new models planned for another 6 months.

Bought a few things in Good Guys this week and spoke with the Manager looking after the TV section and he pretty much confirmed the information from the original post.

PX series end of MAY (Prob available by June as stated above)

PZ he said Aug/Sept as he claimed Panasonic was suprised by the level of demand overseas for the units.

Given the delay on the PZ models I'll prob take a look at the new Sony/Samsung LCD models due out as I'll wait till June but not till OCT..

Rob

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I tried checking with Panasonic and both via the email and phone support they refused to give any dates for the new models. The phone support even attempted to tell me the current model came out 4 months ago and there is no new models planned for another 6 months.

Bought a few things in Good Guys this week and spoke with the Manager looking after the TV section and he pretty much confirmed the information from the original post.

PX series end of MAY (Prob available by June as stated above)

PZ he said Aug/Sept as he claimed Panasonic was suprised by the level of demand overseas for the units.

I've been organizing a insurance replacement through Harvey Norman in Perth, and they have also said that they will have the new PX7 series models in store by end of May (early June at latest). I think I'm going to hold off and order one of the new ones.

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Panasonic 2007 Flat Panel Displays Brochure (PDF 3.23MB)

Panasonic 2007 Flat Panel Displays Press Release

The Australian Manuals (EDIT manual links are broken now I think) are up for some of them:-

TH-42PX7A (2.68MB PDF) (1024*768)

Speaker 120 mm × 60 mm × 2 pcs, Audio Output 20W (10W + 10W), 10% THD

1 HDMI

Contrast RatioMax: (8000:1 or 10000:1?), Steps of Gradation: (2048 or 3072?)

TH-42PX70A & TH-50PX70A (12.74MB PDF) (1024*768 & 1366*768)

Speaker 120 mm × 60 mm × 2 pcs, Audio Output 20W (10W + 10W), 10% THD, Headphone jack

2 HDMI

Contrast Ratio Max: 10000:1, Steps of Gradation: not stated (assume 3072)

TH-50PX700A (3.08MB PDF) (1366*768)

Speaker Woofer (­80 mm)×2 pcs, Tweeter (23 mm×100 mm) × 2 pcs Audio Output 31W (15.5W+15.5W), 10% THD,Headphone jack, SRS TruSurroundXT

3 HDMI

Contrast Ratio Max: not stated (assume 10000:1), Steps of Gradation: not stated (assume 3072)

SD card slot

PIP (Picture in Picture), PAP (Picture and Picture)

Anti Glare panel

All have digital tuners. All have digital audio out.

All have 2 component inputs.

All have D-SUB 15 pin input (although I would check with the PX7a as overseas this doesn't appear to be the case).

Component handles 480p (60 Hz), 576i (50 Hz), 576p (50 Hz), 720p (50 Hz), 720p (60 Hz), 1080i (50 Hz), 1080i (60 Hz)

HDMI handles 480p (60 Hz), 576i (50 Hz), 576p (50 Hz), 720p (50 Hz), 720p (60 Hz), 1080i (50 Hz), 1080i (60 Hz), 1080p (50 Hz), 1080p (60 Hz)

PC/D-SUB 640 × 400 @70 Hz 31.47 70.07, 640 × 480 @60 Hz 31.47 59.94, 640 × 480 @75 Hz 37.50 75.00, 800 × 600 @60 Hz 37.88 60.32, 800 × 600 @75 Hz 46.88 75.00, 800 × 600 @85 Hz 53.67 85.06, 852 × 480 @60 Hz 31.44 59.89, 1,024 × 768 @60 Hz 48.36 60.00, 1,024 × 768 @70 Hz 56.48 70.07, 1,024 × 768 @75 Hz 60.02 75.03, 1,024 × 768 @85 Hz 68.68 85.00, 1,280 × 1,024 @60 Hz 63.98 60.02, 1,366 × 768 @60 Hz 48.39 60.04, Macintosh (640 × 480) 35.00 66.67, Macintosh (832 × 624) 49.73 74.55, Macintosh (1,152 × 870)

Maybe they aren't going to bring in a TH-42PX700A. (No manual yet and model not registered with dba)

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Looks like the PX7 and 70 use the same stand as the PV. Please tell me it aint so! Pana how could you!!!

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Wow, 15.5wpc at only 10% THD. Amazing quality there, I'll have to throw my other speakers out.

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Wow, 15.5wpc at only 10% THD. Amazing quality there, I'll have to throw my other speakers out.

Yes 15.5w is a bit overkill. But better too much than not enough hey? :blink:

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Re Panasonic giving the run around about not knowing release dates of other models or arent aware of newer models. I'd take that with a grain of salt.

A classic example was when the PV60 model was released. It was common knowledge there was a PV600 due to be released however Panasonic claimed they had no knowledge of the model coming etc and that there werent any plans for it.

It was all bogus and it wasnt till the release that they really only admitted it was coming.

Apparently Panasonic dont like announcing release of products down the track as it makes for bad marketing of the existing products they have.

Not that salesman are the best people to talk to at the best of times. It seems Panasonic do give them the rundown of whats around the corner.

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Any more guestimates on pricing? I'm guessing 7-8k for the 50 1080 model and 4-5k for the 50 768.

I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm keen on a 50. Would love the 50 1080 but it will be outside my price range. So, I was going to get the outgoing 50 because it's cheap and good and the biggest improvement (from what I've read so far) between it and the new model is that it loses the silver. But the smart money would be for me to use the cash on a house deposit I've built up (because it might be the difference between mortgage insurance or not) and then get a screen afterwards but then the screen will be higher in price even if it will look better.

*sigh*

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i know what you mean re getting the 1080p or the Semi HD 50" (1366 x 768). But ask yourself this, how far are you going to be sitting from the display?

Will you notice the resolution difference?

Why do you think you'll be better off?

Reading forums etc and info gathered from other sites. At the end of the day 1080p is certainly better, but for 95% of people do they need it?

Id ideally love one but know that besides wank factor im personally not going to benefit from it.

For starters my viewing distance will be 2-3 metres at minimum from a 50" screen. Therefore the difference isnt noticeable.

How much content will be 1080p to really notice the difference? (Very minimal, atleast for a long while)

For most people I bet they dont know how 1080p will make their viewing experience any different.

A classic example are the people that watch DVDs and have a DVD collection based on burnt copies, which are very inferior to the original as picture quality is stripped to get them to fit on a single sided DVD.

Alot of people even then say they dont notice the difference.

So anyway the point through all this, without a 1080p screen, are you really going to feel you settled for 2nd best?

As for pricing, i'd say your guesstimates are on the ball, but rumour has it they will be even lower as the competition are selling comparable screens for less than that.

Personally I think the 42 & 50 inch Semi HD screens will have a street price similar to current pricing and I base that on the trends over previous years with new releases.

When the new 10th Gen comes out, as with the past, pricing will be similar to what they are now and to run out the existing model they'll drop a marginal amount. So in theory when the 10th gen comes out, perhaps due to supply & demand economics, it will cost around the vicinty of $100-$300 more than the cash price for the 9th Gen panels on the given day.

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Permanently lit spots on screen

•Due to production process involved in this

technology this may result in some pixels which are

permanently lit or unlit. This is not a malfunction.

Seems they have a great pixel policy.

Any Comments?

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Yeah, all vaid points. I'll be buying a townhouse so knowing my luck I'll find some place that only has a wall that's long enough for the screen where I can sit 2m back hahaha

Anyway, I won't be getting the 1080 model, it will be the 768 model, just not sure if it's going to be the 700 or 600.

Permanently lit spots on screen

•Due to production process involved in this

technology this may result in some pixels which are

permanently lit or unlit. This is not a malfunction.

Seems they have a great pixel policy.

Any Comments?

Yuk.

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