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Panasonic has launched its release of the 2007 range of the 10th Generation Plasmas.

It appears that the plasmas 42inch and above will be true HD.

They also have increased specs in some other areas.

What I find most appealing about them is the sleek black design. This time it appears the base model (PX70) is more appealing than its superior model (PX700). In the report it mentions how the silver detracts from the px700.

This is the link

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2...ebruary-2007/p2

Its a 4 page report but ive jumped straight to page 2 which displays the screens.

To remain competitive I wonder what the cost of these units will be as I imagine True HD will be a substantial increase.

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Who are they kidding with the crystalware images!!!!!! :blink: The lcd panel clearly has its brightness setting adjusted to full. And yes you can see the reflections of people standing in front of the plasma. Sad when Panasonic have to resort to this garbage to show off your new panels... :D

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From the link:

"Finally, there was a sneak peak at what’s coming for plasma – a model offering 10 lumens/Watt brightness, compared to the 2 lumens/watt that current screens offer. A prototype of these was on display and there was no denying its impact. In fact, it kind of spoilt the effect when going back to the current line up."

Looks like the 'SED Killers' are still a ways off then.......

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I can't wait for the 1920x1080p TH-50PZ700 for Australia in August this year along with the others. This will be my most likely next screen purchase.

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Not as expensive as you might think.....

They're going to start off higher than the current gen PX models though aren't they? I'd assume Pana's first 1080p 42" and 50" models would start at a premium for the first year and then maybe settle down 6-12 months in

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Who are they kidding with the crystalware images!!!!!! :blink: The lcd panel clearly has its brightness setting adjusted to full. And yes you can see the reflections of people standing in front of the plasma. Sad when Panasonic have to resort to this garbage to show off your new panels... :D

That is truly atrocious.

Shame on Panasonic for resorting to that sort of crap, and shame on the site for believing it.

Andrew.

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Beautiful TV's, beautiful numbers......they'll be pricey at first, but will drop quickly as the 1080 LCD's kick in.

I was thinking it would be jonks before the 50's came with 1080p.

LOL, at the comparison photo.....but it's not the first time I've heard complaints about the wankers calling themselves "trusted reviews".

I think boycotting that POS website might be in order.

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They're going to start off higher than the current gen PX models though aren't they? I'd assume Pana's first 1080p 42" and 50" models would start at a premium for the first year and then maybe settle down 6-12 months in

Panasonic are rumoured to be going to price the intergrated versions of their 50" and 42" sets very agressively at much less then competing LCD's in the 40" and 46" sizes.

Right now that suggests a price of quite a bit less then $5000 for the 50" version.

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The article is a bit unclear as to what is what.

My understanding of the new models is that the 42in TH-42PX70B and the 50in TH-50PX70B will be direct replacements for the TH-42PV60A and TH-50PV60A i.e. HD panel with no inbuilt HD tuner. The step-up TH-50PX700B and the TH-42PX700B wil be direct replacements for the TH-42PX600A and the TH-50PX600A i.e. HD panel with integrated HD tuner. And the TH-50PZ700B is the brand new full HD panel.

The article briefly mentions a full HD 42 inch panel but no model number is given (I assume it will be the Th-42PZ700B).

Anyone know where to get some details about these upcoming models????

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My understanding of the new models is that the 42in TH-42PX70B and the 50in TH-50PX70B will be direct replacements for the TH-42PV60A and TH-50PV60A i.e. HD panel with no inbuilt HD tuner.

I'm surprised they would still bother with these non-integrated versions. How much would it cost them to throw in a tuner? $20? $50? :blink:

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I'm surprised they would still bother with these non-integrated versions. How much would it cost them to throw in a tuner? $20? $50? :blink:

I am very surprised as well. The problems people have with connection and compatibility issues when they use separate HD STB's is well known and I doubt anyone would even consider purchasing a new plasma that didn't have a digital tuner built -in.

There is a regulatory requirement in the US that all residential plasma's need to have a tuner built in - that is why we get these so called "commercial versions" here.

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Hi All,

Any info or speculation on what refersh rates and resolutions the HDMI connector on the TH-50PZ700B

will accept?

1900x1080@24fps?

1900x1080@25fps?

1900x1080@30fps?

1900x1080@48fps?

1900x1080@50fps?

1900x1080@60fps?

1900x1080@62fps?

1900x1080@75fps?

1900x1080@100fps?

1024x768@24fps?

1024x768@25fps?

1024x768@30fps?

1024x768@48fps?

1024x768@50fps?

1024x768@60fps?

1024x768@62fps?

1024x768@75fps?

1024x768@100fps?

576???

Thanks,

Neeto

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The 2007 range of Panasonic Plasmas are due for release in April in the UK atleast.

Spec wise they seem the same as the 2006 (G9) range, however after all the criticisim Pana panels received for their aesthetic appeal. Theyve gone back to black and it looks great.

Heres a link for consumers in the UK with pricing. So I wonder what the pricing will translate to here. If its just the simple currency conversion, perhaps all will be good.

http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/index.php?cP...a1b664ae170df80

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The following products are registered with http://dvb.org so don't think they are too far off:-

TH-42PX7A

TH-42PX70A

TH-50PX70A

TH-50PX700A

These (full HD) will probably take a bit longer:-

TH-42PZ700A

TH-50PZ700A

TH-58PZ700A

TH-65PZ700A

The TH-42PX70B is already selling in the UK.

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Any info or speculation on what refersh rates and resolutions the HDMI connector on the TH-50PZ700B will accept?

See http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/12...1_l6/index.html

ApplicableScanningFormat 525 (480)/ 60i, 525 (480)/ 60p, 625 (576)/ 50i, 625 (576)/ 50p, 750 (720)/50p, 750 (720)/60p,

1125 (1080)/ 50i, 1125 (1080)/ 60i, 1125 (1080)/50p (HDMI only), 1125 (1080)/ 60p (HDMI only)

UPDATE Best (pictures/specs/tech) info yet: http://www.godpris.dk/images/Nye%20Pansonic%20produkter.pdf (4.53 MB PDF) (preliminary)

Glossy stuff http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/viera/

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Bit surprised it doesn't support 1080/24p......

Yeah, it really needs some sort of movie mode where it accepts 1080/24p and displays as 48Hz or 72Hz. Since it lacks this feature I don't think I'll bother waiting.

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When Panasonic says "10th generation Plasma" what are the improvements over the 9th generation sets?

Is there better anti-burn-in, or better brightness, or quicker response etc.

Does anyone know?

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I think Panasonic felt the pinch with their move to go grey/silver.

Most people pick plasmas based on aesthetics and what salesman tell them. So brands like LG and Samsung were getting a good chunk of the Plasma share.

Us on this forum are the minority that make informed decisions.

So its good Pana have gone black.

As for the 10th generation imrpovements. Spec wise it seems the same, except for the screen saver which is now "wobble" which Im not 100% on what it means but I assume its how they are able to shift the picture or pixels so as to burn them evenly.

If anyone knows any better on specs that will be muchly appreciated.

Also if someone can shed some light on what the 3D management is on the Pana. Cant seem to find anything on that either.

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Whats the general thoughts on the 65" (Panasonic Viera TH-65PV600A) which is 1080p and now priced at 15K. Is its performance upto scratch?

It also has no hd tuner, so I was considering a hd stb+recorder (even though only 1080i at present). Which are the best? ( Only aware of sony + LG ), or are they too inferior as hd tuners when compared to stand alone hd stb's.

Cheers

Gandalf

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Also if someone can shed some light on what the 3D management is on the Pana. Cant seem to find anything on that either.

From the previously-linked pdf -

"Advanced 3D Colour Management

Effective Colour Correction without Affecting Colour Balance

This system controls multiple colours at the same time without affecting neighboring colours. By independently adjusting the colour hue, density and brightness, it brings out the full beauty and richness of every image."

I'm not sure how that relates to 3D... could "hue", "density" and "brightness" each be a "dimension", independently adjustable by the V-Real2 processor? Probably... it makes more sense than a variation on the traditional interpretation of 3D, as below.

Generally, when applied to TV image processing, the 3rd dimension of "3D" imaging features was time - comparing 1 frame to the next, then adjusting the image & sending it to be displayed. I don't know what advantage that would offer for colours, especially given the text from the brochure.

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does anyone know a rough ballpark price for the 1920x1080 version?

Ballpark from http://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/1746/1/

TH50PZ700 $4,199 Canadian Retail (~ $4,455 AUD)

TH58PZ700 $5,999 Canadian Retail (~ $6,364 AUD)

(65PX600U currently sells for $9,999 Canadian)

For comparison, Not full HD:-

TH42PX75 $2,199 Canadian Retail

TH50PX75 $3,199 Canadian Retail

TH58PX75 $4,199 Canadian Retail

For anyone interested US model manuals http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH42PE77U.PDF (13.31 MB) http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TH42PX75U-MUL.PDF (23.92 MB)

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Just for info, I was browsing on the Electronic Discounter Plasma Page at their site.

I noticed that the 42PV60A and the 50PV60A models are listed as run out models.

I wonder if thats because the 42PV70A & 50PV70A will be arriving soon.

The prices are also pretty good. If the 70A models will be less than the 600A models that will be a plus also.

Id much rather the 70A as I want to get a seperate HD STB W/PVR so dont need the extra expense of an inbuilt tuner.

Plus the 70A is much more cosmetically appealing over the 600A and the 700A.

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Its displayed as 1080p @ 48Hz on the Panasonic 65.

I forget where I read it but on a screen that size it totally amplifies all the flaws.

On a test DVD by a testing lab they could see in fast motion the frame by frame artifacts etc.

1080p content is generally 24 progressive frames and its interlaced to make 48 frames but to make it interlaced it has to be 1080i60 so they double up on 12 frames.

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I forget where I read it but on a screen that size it totally amplifies all the flaws.

On a test DVD by a testing lab they could see in fast motion the frame by frame artifacts etc.

1080p content is generally 24 progressive frames and its interlaced to make 48 frames but to make it interlaced it has to be 1080i60 so they double up on 12 frames.

It looks superb ..... zero artifacts

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