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Ok guys

Mine is now with the Sony repairers. They agree that it isn't right and are going to replace the lcd panel. I don't mind having a repaired new tv aslong as the picture quality is perfect and the cloudiness is gone. Fingers crossed.

Sony, if your keeping in touch with this, you need to lift your game in your quality control. If you want top price for your product then you have to do better than this.

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Ok guys

Mine is now with the Sony repairers. They agree that it isn't right and are going to replace the lcd panel. I don't mind having a repaired new tv aslong as the picture quality is perfect and the cloudiness is gone. Fingers crossed.

Sony, if your keeping in touch with this, you need to lift your game in your quality control. If you want top price for your product then you have to do better than this.

Wow. That's quite the precedent! Well done Mr Matey. I don't think anyone has reported a result like that yet. Could open the floodgates. Let us know how it is when you get it back.

And Chesty...

Just say you want one built on a monday, not a friday afternoon....lol.
very funny! Git.
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To tell the truth, this morning I had a fear that there was backlight bleed in the bottom of the screen. I turned down the backlight and it looked like it disappeared. I have to spend some time analysing the black screen to see if its obvious enough, but for the 40", I still couldnt be happier. Im just trying to find problems with the screen after finding the dead pixel, but ended up fixing it.

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I picked up my 40" Bravia just before Xmas but have't had the chance to set it up till this week. So first thing I did was look for the manufacturers date on the back......September 2006...ok well here goes.....perfecto.....nothing like the complaints here....even clear on the black sacreen when your changing between programs and inputs.

Brilliant set....very pleased.

Skull

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I picked up my 40" Bravia just before Xmas but have't had the chance to set it up till this week. So first thing I did was look for the manufacturers date on the back......September 2006...ok well here goes.....perfecto.....nothing like the complaints here....even clear on the black sacreen when your changing between programs and inputs.

Brilliant set....very pleased.

Skull

Skull you are lucky and are one of the chosen ones...as am i actually. Not as lucky as you as i do have clouds between inputs which i must say is strange as when there is a feed the picture is fine. Bizarre1

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Well, no. 3 goes back tomorrow. HN want it back but haven't got a replacement for me so I will have to wait till they get more stock in. :blink:

Phoned sony again and they suggested the "leave it on for 40 hours and will be good trick" I told him I left the last set on for four days and it didn't make any difference. He said OK and take it back to HN. He even thanked me for my patience!

I hope HN aren't planning on screwing me around

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Well, no. 3 goes back tomorrow. HN want it back but haven't got a replacement for me so I will have to wait till they get more stock in. :blink:

Sorry to hear that Mr Ploppy. What's the manuf date on your new dodgy one by the way?

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Why don't you keep the set and wait until HN have more in stock?

They yabbered on about it needing to be sent away before a certain time to get warranty, BS I know. But I don't care, all I want is one that is perfect. Well close enough anyway! The Sony guy said I should l keep it until the stock comes in. Might ring them in the morning and push the issue.

The set is another August build Crayons, that is three now.

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you know the patchness goes away when you reduce the backlight intenity. I set mine to 5. I also removed the digital and edge enhancing. it improved the black level

Still there at 1 on mine.

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you know the patchness goes away when you reduce the backlight intenity. I set mine to 5. I also removed the digital and edge enhancing. it improved the black level

Mine was there no matter what. It was a funny shape and that is what made it so discernable at night. It was hard to pick up during the day. But night is when I am usually watching a movie and then, on dark scenes, it was very noticable. For top of the line gear it just shouldn't be the case. I normally had back light on about 3 for movies but higher on games.

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you can also try setting Power Saving to low or High and this will improve the black level, but sacrifices the white level as it turns the fluro down.

as a standard test setup for clouds what settings do people have where they can see the clouds.

eg does anyone have no clouds with the following

room lights = pitch black

Sony X settings

backlight = max

power save = off

light sensor = off

picture = vivid

contrast = 90

brightness = 50

edge enhancer off

noise reduction = off

black corrector = off

clear white = off

adv cobtrast enhancer = off

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you can also try setting Power Saving to low or High and this will improve the black level, but sacrifices the white level as it turns the fluro down.

as a standard test setup for clouds what settings do people have where they can see the clouds.

eg does anyone have no clouds with the following

room lights = pitch black

Sony X settings

backlight = max

power save = off

light sensor = off

picture = vivid

contrast = 90

brightness = 50

edge enhancer off

noise reduction = off

black corrector = off

clear white = off

adv cobtrast enhancer = off

Judging by your settings you must be burning a hole in the back of your eye sockets!

I dont know that you can eliminate the bleeding if you have it bad enough. If its there when you watch a movie etc and not just when you swith inputs then you really need to look at trying to get a replacement set.

While i have an x series i dont have it when watching a feed.

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you can also try setting Power Saving to low or High and this will improve the black level, but sacrifices the white level as it turns the fluro down.

... yeah... and you might as well have bought a chinese TV and pocketed the considerable change. :blink:

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My backlight bleed has disappeared. Thought it was obvious, but mainly can see it (ever so slightly) when changing channels. Frustrating how changing channels takes forever, and you cant skip through by pressing the channel button 3 times if you know where to stop.

Actually, just looking just then, that I can see some white clouds from an angle, but from on, not a problem. Must be intermittant, or I am looking for faults that arent even there.

Best TV ever!

One thing I cant work out how to configure, is that when the image is dark, such as night time scenes, that the TV itself goes even darker. Then when bright scene comes in, there is a noticeable increase in brightness, for an ever so slight milisecond.

Can this be fixed up? Its noticeable when doing gaming as well from the PC, is a bit annoying.

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My backlight bleed has disappeared. Thought it was obvious, but mainly can see it (ever so slightly) when changing channels. Frustrating how changing channels takes forever, and you cant skip through by pressing the channel button 3 times if you know where to stop.

Actually, just looking just then, that I can see some white clouds from an angle, but from on, not a problem. Must be intermittant, or I am looking for faults that arent even there.

Best TV ever!

One thing I cant work out how to configure, is that when the image is dark, such as night time scenes, that the TV itself goes even darker. Then when bright scene comes in, there is a noticeable increase in brightness, for an ever so slight milisecond.

Can this be fixed up? Its noticeable when doing gaming as well from the PC, is a bit annoying.

Yes, it can be stopped. I don't have my tv at the moment so can't remember the exact name but you need to put it on custom, then go to advanced settings, then turn off (or atleast turn down) the black corrector (not sure if that is the right name).

Good luck.

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One thing I cant work out how to configure, is that when the image is dark, such as night time scenes, that the TV itself goes even darker. Then when bright scene comes in, there is a noticeable increase in brightness, for an ever so slight milisecond.

Can this be fixed up?

I have exactly the same problem as it annoys my wife when I play around with the settings constantly..

By the way, anyone got IDEAL settings for the PS2 ?

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I have exactly the same problem as it annoys my wife when I play around with the settings constantly..

By the way, anyone got IDEAL settings for the PS2 ?

Keep it on topic please people! Start a new thread if you can't read your manual! :blink:

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Just got off the phone to HN. The salesman spoke to the local sony rep who said the problem was humidity in the backlight and by running the set for 40 hours would fix it. I told the HN dude that I ran the second one for 96 hours straight while I was off at work and it didn't make any difference. He just went, "oh"

So sony won't swap the sets now because, according to the rep, it isn't a fault. I couldn't be bothered playing the Bravia lottery any more, so I guess I have to pick a different tv now :blink:

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Just got off the phone to HN. The salesman spoke to the local sony rep who said the problem was humidity in the backlight and by running the set for 40 hours would fix it. I told the HN dude that I ran the second one for 96 hours straight while I was off at work and it didn't make any difference. He just went, "oh"

So sony won't swap the sets now because, according to the rep, it isn't a fault. I couldn't be bothered playing the Bravia lottery any more, so I guess I have to pick a different tv now :D

Wonder how Mr Matey got Sony to do a repair and swap the LCD panel if this is still the official line? Good luck in your search to find something new to watch Blackadder on Mr Ploppy. If you di find a corker let us know, I might just give up on Sony too at this rate. :blink:

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Just got off the phone to HN. The salesman spoke to the local sony rep who said the problem was humidity in the backlight and by running the set for 40 hours would fix it. I told the HN dude that I ran the second one for 96 hours straight while I was off at work and it didn't make any difference. He just went, "oh"

So sony won't swap the sets now because, according to the rep, it isn't a fault. I couldn't be bothered playing the Bravia lottery any more, so I guess I have to pick a different tv now :blink:

This doesn't make sense. First HN agreed to swap the set and now they're telling you otherwise?

And they're refusing to swap it to another Sony set but let you pick a different brand?

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Yeah davep, it's a bit ordinary but honestly I have run out of puff with these sets. It is such a PIA to get the sets back and forth, relying on mates and rellies to move the sets with me working 4 on 4 off. I just want a TV I can turn on and enjoy, not one I will be forever looking at it's glaring faults everytime there is a dark scene.

Well crayons, as to what I will get for a replacement, I haven't a clue! :blink: Was thinking maybe the bigger sammy or toshiba. I'm FIIK!! The search starts again....

This doesn't make sense. First HN agreed to swap the set and now they're telling you otherwise?

And they're refusing to swap it to another Sony set but let you pick a different brand?

I think this is Sony's way of saying that I am an annoying prick and will I please F%$k off!!!

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Yeah davep, it's a bit ordinary but honestly I have run out of puff with these sets. It is such a PIA to get the sets back and forth, relying on mates and rellies to move the sets with me working 4 on 4 off. I just want a TV I can turn on and enjoy, not one I will be forever looking at it's glaring faults everytime there is a dark scene.

Well crayons, as to what I will get for a replacement, I haven't a clue! :blink: Was thinking maybe the bigger sammy or toshiba. I'm FIIK!! The search starts again....

I think this is Sony's way of saying that I am an annoying prick and will I please F%$k off!!!

Mr Ploppy just promise us all you wont be looking for those clouds in your next set, Sony or no Sony! Otherwise you will do your head in everytime you watch your panel...

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I agree with you about the issue staring you in the face every time you watch a dark scene. The worse thing is, that, if you are like me, as soon as you find a problem, you will keep looking for it and it will annoy for the rest of its life :blink: Movement of the panel must be a pain - the drawback of large flat panels :D In the future someone will invent a collapsible TV that can be easily transported :P

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Mr Ploppy just promise us all you wont be looking for those clouds in your next set, Sony or no Sony! Otherwise you will do your head in everytime you watch your panel...

lol, I promise Chesty. Surely I can't be that unlucky again!!

Off topic - just signed up and I can't start a new topic in any forum. Why?

Have a look here, will help you out: http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=44129

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lol, I promise Chesty. Surely I can't be that unlucky again!!

Mr Ploppy, by chance what have to got hooked up to your panel? Have you gone down the hi def path yet? Apologies if this has already been discussed...and i know wrong thread...

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Mr Ploppy, by chance what have to got hooked up to your panel? Have you gone down the hi def path yet? Apologies if this has already been discussed...and i know wrong thread...

If you mean HDD or Blue ray then no, i have an LG lst-5403p pvr and an xbox 360 hooked up to it.

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If you mean HDD or Blue ray then no, i have an LG lst-5403p pvr and an xbox 360 hooked up to it.

I see.

Keep us in the loop with your next panel. I have followed it this far would hate to miss the end result... :blink:

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I see.

Keep us in the loop with your next panel. I have followed it this far would hate to miss the end result... :D

Will do, it has turned into a bit of a saga unfortunately. :blink: I am thinking my only real options are to get the 1080p for the xbox is to get a samsung.

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Will do, it has turned into a bit of a saga unfortunately. :blink: I am thinking my only real options are to get the 1080p for the xbox is to get a samsung.

Fair enough...or the Toshi.

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Not Toshi... they're made in Indonesia!

Oh well what do I know. My made in Japan Pana was broken once already.

As long as they work that's the main thing.

I think Mr Ploppy would take one made in iraq at this point in time...as long as it worked!!!

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I think Mr Ploppy would take one made in iraq at this point in time...as long as it worked!!!

I bloody near would Chesty!!

I'm a bit unsure what to do now. A mate came over this afternoon for a visit and I was telling him the story of my Bravia saga and he said lets go have a look at the samsungs. Tried WOW and Chandlers, neither had them so we went to the Good Guys and there is a 40' X series looking at me. The salesman came over and after a short while I asked him if they had any returns. He said they had only had them a couple of weeks, so none as yet.

From what I could see the set looked free of the dreaded cloud and after getting the remote I found the set was still on its vivid setting. I put it on a free input and there was no clouding at all. Even looking at the set at an angle showed none of the weird banding my sets have displayed. I turned the backlight down and was even more impressed with the set.

So what to do? Try to get a refund off HN and get the one at the good guys or steer clear of sonys altogether? :blink:

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