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You must be trolling right?

If LCD sets are used by graphics and design professionals (most are still using CRTs BTW) IPS panels are preferable because of their ability to better maintain black level/contrast accross a wide angle, but these are used specifically for use with 'still' images. IPS panel have specific problems dealing with fast moving, panning images, which are dealt with in a variety of ways by different manufacturers.

Sony's S-PVA panels are excellent at maintaining contrast/colour levels across a wide viewing angle, have far better colour reproduction than the X60/X600 Panasonic sets and have no problems with panning/moving images + you can control the backlight unlike the Pana sets.

BTW the real bargains at the moment are the older 'V' Bravia sets, they have far better connections than the newer 'V' models and they also have the 'controllable' Wega engine for analog connections.

Man, Now I'm really convinced half the people on this forum are employed by Sony.

Have a look at what this guy is trying to sell. It's got Sony Salesman written all over it.

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I know because I own one, Neon Kitten doesn't know jack :blink:

Err, whatever. You've spent thousands on a new TV. It's in your own ego's interest to reassure yourself you bought the best.

As I said, when I can see the new Panasonic and the new Sony side by side I'll decide for myself. You singing the praises of IPS panels from the rooftops isn't reason enough for me to just rush out and buy one.

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On "Extra Fine" (highest) recoding quality, you'll get almost 2 hours with a 1GB SD card. You'll get more recoding time with a lower quality setting but in my opinion anything other than "Extra Fine" is horrible.

does this mean it would be fine as a mp4 on a video ipod?

- Goldcoaster

RabidWolve, my software is version 1.02. I believe when I got it was version 1.01, hence the automatic updates does work. I know because I own one, Neon Kitten doesn't know jack :blink:

How does this work. Does Panasonic pay the Studios to send their updates.

Does this mean that in the future they can automatically send an update to block copying TV shows?

- Goldcoaster

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Err, whatever. You've spent thousands on a new TV. It's in your own ego's interest to reassure yourself you bought the best.

As I said, when I can see the new Panasonic and the new Sony side by side I'll decide for myself. You singing the praises of IPS panels from the rooftops isn't reason enough for me to just rush out and buy one.

So Neon Kitten, have you had a chance to compare the new Sony and the Panasonic LCDs yet. After reading about all the apparrent problems with the panels on the new Samsung R series, and the "patchy clouds" on the new X series bravias, I'm now considering the new Panasonic TX-32LXD600A. I have also been looking at the bravia V series, (X series is way overpriced anyway), and while I have not heard about any problems with the V series panels, the problem with the X series is kind of putting me off a bit.

So I'd be interested to know if you have had a chance to compare the 2 panels.

You know, I've had my trusty Panasonic 61cm CRT for more then 10 years now. I watch DTV on it through a Topfield PVR and the PQ is very good for what it is. After reading about all these problems with LCD panels (and plasmas, and rear projection LCDs and .............etc. etc. etc), I'm starting to think I'm better off sticking with my CRT. I tinker as much as anyone, but watching TV is supposed to be a no brainer exercise, you turn it on and it works. I was going to venture into the world of HD tv screens, and LCD in particular, as I only want a maximum 80cm screen, but now I'm not so sure. You would think that after so many years all the problems with these technologies would have been ironed out by now, apparently not. It's pretty disappointing really, considering the money that you have to shelve out.

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dclayw, according to several hundred owners of the Pana TX-32LXD600, it has no serious faults unlike the Sony.

Hence I believe the TX-32LXD600 is a safe buy.

Yeah, thanks for that. Well, I've read a little about this IPS Alpha panel technology now. It seems they run hot, like quite a bit hotter then other panel technology. Something to do with having twice as many transistors/capacitors then say PVA panel technology, or something like that. I live in Brisbane and have no air-con, so this could be a problem for me.

Also, it seems this type of panel does not handle fast motion as well as say the PVA panels, I got that from tech reports, not from forums. Did you find this to be the case when you were comparing say the new Bravias with this Panasonic. I haven't actually noticed one of these Panasonics in store yet, but I wasn't actually looking for them. I'm not putting this Panasonic down, just after some info from people who own one. There does not seem to be too much information around on this TV. From my reseacrh this past few weeks, I'm inclining to stick with CRT, cheaper and better PQ for what I want. (I only heed 81cm).

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dclayw, I doubt it gets hotter than other panels. I used a non-contact IR digital thermometer on my Dell 2407WFP (S-PVA) and Pana 32LXD600A (S-IPS) and there's negligible difference in temperature.

Most online reviews say that PVA panels have superior response time and contrast ratio while IPS panels are renowned for better colour and viewing angle. I think it's true since most monitors for gamers use PVA panels while most graphics and professional monitors (Apple, Eizo) use IPS panels. This IPS Alpha panel technology is unique since it has overcome those disadvantages, now it has a similar response time and contrast ratio to PVA while maintaining better colour and viewing angle.

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Just found this interesting flash demo (click the 2 options on right side) of IPS Alpha panel technology.

On a side note, I think buyers and manufacturers put such a huge emphasis on the visual advantages of HDTV that audio is often overlooked. George Lucas himself said audio is half of the entire movie experience.

Most HDTV has only 2 or 4 speakers. The 32LXD600A is special, it has 6 speakers that distribute sound over a wide listening area. It uses separate twin passive radiator woofers to produce a tight, rich, robust bass.

Why bother buying a HDTV only to hear rubbish quality sound?

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So Neon Kitten, have you had a chance to compare the new Sony and the Panasonic LCDs yet.

Yes - I got to see them side by side (literally!) the other week, both running off their internal DVB tuners (sadly a rarity - sorry, Myer and Sony Central, but demo-ing TVs using an HD feed from a PC is, well, cheating the customer).

My verdict - as I think I recounted in another thread a couple of weeks ago - was that the Sony hands-down outdid the Panasonic in terms of picture quality in the areas of colour accuracy, black levels, and general clarity. On the other hand, the Sony showed up artifacts in SD sources more readily than the Panasonic (what was being screened, annoyingly, was Seven's pseudo-HD channel, and the salesman refused to let me have access to the remotes to try other channels or sources).

The Panasonic's claimed superiority over the Sony in terms of viewing angle is, I can confirm, a complete myth: both were on par with each other in that department. Ultimately I came away convinced the Sony had the superior picture - but then, seeing the two again at another store the following week, the difference seemed less (however, that store was running a distributed HD digital TV feed via component, and we all know what distribution amps can do!)

Oh, and the models I was comparing were the 32" (81cm) Panasonic 600 and the 32" Sony V2000 series. FWIW, comparing the V with Sony's X on the same source (this time on 40" displays) in three different stores revealed that - at least at default settings, presuming that's what they were on - the X did a vastly better job of scaling an SD source, but was *massively* less colour-saturated; indeed, the V looked almost artificially saturated by comparison.

After reading about all the apparrent problems with the panels on the new Samsung R series, and the "patchy clouds" on the new X series bravias, I'm now considering the new Panasonic TX-32LXD600A. I have also been looking at the bravia V series, (X series is way overpriced anyway), and while I have not heard about any problems with the V series panels, the problem with the X series is kind of putting me off a bit.

I wouldn't be too worried about the V - they are completely different panels, for one thing, as evidenced by their very, very different behaviour with program material. Indeed, I'd have a 32" V series in my lounge room right now if only Sony hadn't cheated us out of a decent set of video inputs on the current range. That alone was enough to make me go "fine, I'll wait till after Xmas and see what happens"...

You know, I've had my trusty Panasonic 61cm CRT for more then 10 years now.

Which model is it? Because my own trusty Panasonic CRT - the original TV that was marketed as "The One", the TC-68A61 - has served me well for close to 16 years now. It's losing its ability to control overscan (!!!!) but in terms of actual picture quality it's remarkable for a CRT of its age. However, it does need replacing. But I'll salute it as it leaves, an example of superb consumer electronics engineering that's built to last. And made, no less, in Sydney :D

Lots of inputs, too. S-Video on every single one (component didn't exist at the time). Sony should learn something from that; having composite-only inputs in bulk on a $3000 HD TV is a complete joke.

I watch DTV on it through a Topfield PVR and the PQ is very good for what it is. After reading about all these problems with LCD panels (and plasmas, and rear projection LCDs and .............etc. etc. etc), I'm starting to think I'm better off sticking with my CRT. I tinker as much as anyone, but watching TV is supposed to be a no brainer exercise, you turn it on and it works.

Well, if it helps, my parents bought the previous Panasonic 32" LCD (the 500a) and they're delighted with it - and every time I go over there I'm blown away by the picture quality. And that one's not even close to top of the line in LCDs :P

Honestly, I could be happy with pretty much any of the brand-name LCD TVs available at the moment. But being both a perfectionist and someone who likes avoiding work-arounds, I want whatever TV I buy to not only meet my input needs now (and the Sony doesn't even do that) but to offer some expandability for the future. I'd suggest as a bare minimum 2 HDMI inputs, 2 component and S-Video on every one.

I was going to venture into the world of HD tv screens, and LCD in particular, as I only want a maximum 80cm screen, but now I'm not so sure. You would think that after so many years all the problems with these technologies would have been ironed out by now, apparently not. It's pretty disappointing really, considering the money that you have to shelve out.

Actually, I think you'll find problems like these are few. The Sony X series with its "clouds" and the Thai-made Samsung R series with its nasty backlight bleed are obviously bulk manufacturing faults, and they're not common occurrences. As always, read these forums and watch what others say about anything you're thinking of buying. But rest assured, if your 10-year-old CRT looks anything like my 16-year-old one, you'll be perfectly happy with it until you see a good quality 16"9 LCD in its place. Then you'll wonder how you ever put up with that old thing for so long :blink:

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Thanks for that comprehensive reply. It hasn't swayed me one way or the other yet, but at least I have bit more info to mull over.

Which model is it? Because my own trusty Panasonic CRT - the original TV that was marketed as "The One", the TC-68A61 - has served me well for close to 16 years now. It's losing its ability to control overscan (!!!!) but in terms of actual picture quality it's remarkable for a CRT of its age. However, it does need replacing. But I'll salute it as it leaves, an example of superb consumer electronics engineering that's built to last. And made, no less, in Sydney :D

Lots of inputs, too. S-Video on every single one (component didn't exist at the time). Sony should learn something from that; having composite-only inputs in bulk on a $3000 HD TV is a complete joke.

My old Panasonic CRT is TC-59R62. It has served me well and only has composite input from an SD Topfield PVR. I very much enjoyed watching the cricket on it. It might be a bit older then 10 years, might even be around the same age as yours but certainly no older. I agree, it is technology that was built to last, it has never given me one single problem in all those years.

But I know I'm going to get blown away when I bring one of these LCDs home. I need LCD by the way as the viewing room is very bright during the day.

Actually, I think you'll find problems like these are few. The Sony X series with its "clouds" and the Thai-made Samsung R series with its nasty backlight bleed are obviously bulk manufacturing faults, and they're not common occurrences. As always, read these forums and watch what others say about anything you're thinking of buying. But rest assured, if your 10-year-old CRT looks anything like my 16-year-old one, you'll be perfectly happy with it until you see a good quality 16"9 LCD in its place. Then you'll wonder how you ever put up with that old thing for so long :blink:

That's somewhat reassuring to know. Just have to hope I don't get one of the bodgy ones. I've looked at a few of the R series 32" Samsungs and they were all made in Thailand. That may not be the problem, but I'm not going near those.

This is getting a bit OT I know but assuming there are no initial backlight problems, is it likely to stay that way, or can this develop over time. I would like to think that whatever I buy, I can get a solid 10 years out of it, and the choice to replace it will be mine, not because it dies after a few years.

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Anyone else experience this with their set?

In Dynamic mode when watching DVD's or playing the Xbox 360 particually in dark scenes when white is shown, be that in the form of Subtitles for a dvd, or the HUD in Gears Of War for the 360 the whole screen brightens up, then when the white is gone it darkens again.

Only happens in Dynamic mode. Normal, Cinema, and Auto do not have this problem.

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I was originally interested in the Samsung, but there were a few little things that were putting me off (the poor audio, the glossy black and the possible reliability problems). The Panasonic seems like it may solve all of the issues that I had with the Samsung. Comparing the picture in the shops between the Samsung and Panasonic, I do prefer the picture of the Panasonic. I'd be interested to get your thoughts on it once you get it, maybe in the previous Panasonic thread.

Above quote is from the New R Series Samsung LCD TV range, They just keep on coming! thread.

I've been considering the Samsung LA32R71BDX, the Sony KDL32V2000 and the the Panasonic TX-32LXD600A for a while now. I've bitten the bullet and ordered the Pany, it will be delevered later this week. This was after reading all the reviews I could find, all the relevent threads on this forum and on the UK AVforums, and having a pretty close look at all 3 units in every retail store in my area. I chose the Pany because I think it is more of an all round TV, good sound, better connectivity and it's performance in handling SD content. This is all based on fairly limited information as you never really know 'till you've owned the unit for a few weeks. I'd rate the Samsung as my 2nd choice, certainly in tems of value for money. All the stores have different setups so it's difficult to compare PQ sometimes but in every store where I found all 3 TVs I thought the Pany came out on top for PQ, and generally the Samsung came second. I like the style of the Sony and it would be nice to just own one but I couldn't justify the price tag compared with the features on the Pany. Sales people seem much less willing to negotiate on the Sonys as well, I guess that's got something to do with the name.

Anyway, I hope to give some more thoughts on the unit once I've owned it for a while.

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Above quote is from the New R Series Samsung LCD TV range, They just keep on coming! thread.

I've been considering the Samsung LA32R71BDX, the Sony KDL32V2000 and the the Panasonic TX-32LXD600A for a while now. I've bitten the bullet and ordered the Pany, it will be delevered later this week. [...] Sales people seem much less willing to negotiate on the Sonys as well, I guess that's got something to do with the name.

what sort of prices were you getting on the samsung and the panasonic? i'm going through that exact debate at the moment - thinking of holding off until later january and seeing what happens. i'm tempted to get the samsung at the moment for 2 component inputs - and for the extra 300ish, the pq isn't that much better (from what i've seen, which admittedly isn't a huge amount). i'd go the panasonic if it had just one more component input!

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I need to make a slight modification to my cabinet to accommodate the 600a and I'd like to get this done before the TV arrives later this week. To cut a long story short, would appreciate someone who owns the TV to let me know the width and depth of the stand at its base, not the TV itself, just the stand.

Thanks

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To cut a long story short, would appreciate someone who owns the TV to let me know the width and depth of the stand at its base, not the TV itself, just the stand.

The stand measures 50.5 x 30 cm. Good choice on the TV :blink:

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The stand measures 50.5 x 30 cm. Good choice on the TV :blink:

Yeah, thanks. Everyone likes to justify their decsions but I'm pretty happy with the one I made. I spent a lot of time (and I mean a lot) looking at the 3 models I was considering. I could not go past the Panasonic in the end. It surprises me that this TV does not seem popular here, I mean in terms of the exposure it gets in this forum. Hopefully it's a case of people who have bought it are just enjoying watching it rather then talking about problems with it.

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Hopefully it's a case of people who have bought it are just enjoying watching it rather then talking about problems with it.

Yep - I'm one of those people :blink: V. happy with my purchase - TV is fantastic, have no complaints whatsoever.

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I have a problem when viewing material recorded from the TV onto the SD card. During playback, the image is in a very small box in the middle of the screen. Is there any way to enlarge the playback picture so that it fills the entire screen?

In the manual it mentions something about Normal size and 2X size, however I cannot find this setting to adjust it. When I press the Menu button during playback there appears to be an option for setting picture attributes, but it is greyed out and unselectable.

This is the only issue I have with this Panny. The picture quality is incredible.

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Hopefully it's a case of people who have bought it are just enjoying watching it rather then talking about problems with it.

Same here. Bought the Tx32lxd600a last month. Went for LCD over Plasma because the room has large windows on three sides and I was concerned about reflections from a glass screen. Absolutely no problems with reflections. Picture quality is fantastic. Sound quality is excellent. Very happy with my purchase.

I want to get a SD card but don't have a compatible digital camera. Can a SD card be used to record a TV program straight out of the box, or does it need to be formatted first? Also, if I get a SD card with a USB plug attached, can I copy say a TV program direct to my computer, and could I copy photos from my computer to the card so as to display them on the TV?

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I have a problem when viewing material recorded from the TV onto the SD card. During playback, the image is in a very small box in the middle of the screen. Is there any way to enlarge the playback picture so that it fills the entire screen?

In the manual it mentions something about Normal size and 2X size, however I cannot find this setting to adjust it. When I press the Menu button during playback there appears to be an option for setting picture attributes, but it is greyed out and unselectable.

Check the following first:

1. Use "Extra Fine" for quality recording

2. Ensure tuner is set to digital channels

Try the following steps:

1. Press SD CARD button on remote

2. Select MPEG VIEW on screen

3. Press MENU button on remote

4. Select VIEWING SETUP on screen

5. Select FRAME SIZE on screen

Important: you must select "large" frame size BEFORE recording, only then the video will appear full screen during playback. You cannot enlarge a prerecorded video that used "normal" (small) frame size.

Enjoy :blink:

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Can a SD card be used to record a TV program straight out of the box, or does it need to be formatted first?

Most SD cards are factory formatted with FAT16 file system (most cameras use FAT16) so you can use it straight out of the box. The TV can also format your card.

Also, if I get a SD card with a USB plug attached, can I copy say a TV program direct to my computer, and could I copy photos from my computer to the card so as to display them on the TV?

Yes, you can play the TV programme directly on your PC if you have an SD card reader. You can copy photos from your PC to the card and display them on TV.

When importing photos from PC, it's important to observe the notes on page 40 of the manual, especially regarding the folder structure.

The SD card feature is convenient, I use my TV as a digital photo frame when friends or family visit, they love it.

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You can copy photos from your PC to the card and display them on TV.

Thanks for the info webmal.

Just to clarify, I presumed a card reader could only 'read' info already on a SD card. Can you confirm that if I connect a card reader to my computer via USB, I can not only read, but also write data from my computer to the card?

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Just to clarify, I presumed a card reader could only 'read' info already on a SD card. Can you confirm that if I connect a card reader to my computer via USB, I can not only read, but also write data from my computer to the card?

Although it's commonly known as a 'card reader', it can read and write data on the SD card when the card reader is connected to your PC via USB.

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Check the following first:

1. Use "Extra Fine" for quality recording

2. Ensure tuner is set to digital channels

Try the following steps:

1. Press SD CARD button on remote

2. Select MPEG VIEW on screen

3. Press MENU button on remote

4. Select VIEWING SETUP on screen

5. Select FRAME SIZE on screen

Important: you must select "large" frame size BEFORE recording, only then the video will appear full screen during playback. You cannot enlarge a prerecorded video that used "normal" (small) frame size.

Enjoy :blink:

Thanks Webmal. That worked great. Is that in the manual anywhere?

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On xmas eve:

Was offered 2500 ("a hot price") for the tx32lcd600a at the God Guys Bundaberg when buying a tv for my Dad. Sticker 2699. I asked if he could make things a little more attractive and the salesman told me if I returned with a price on a card he would beat it.

So we walked across the road to Hardly Normal where it was stickered 2350, decided I was sick of walking in the 35 degree heat and didn't return.

Have told my Dad not to worry about going to the God Guys Bundy again. If the original guy had been vaguely competitive (I walked in expecting to pay 2300 without any quibbling) it would of been the most rapid sale in history.....

The same guy told me that Panasonic's ax-100e projector was way out of date when I asked what he could provide it for, and that the current model was the ax-900. I didn't even bother to answer at this point. :blink:

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vidiot, yeah that's my experience generally with the good guys, it's mostly all hype with them, I have never been able to get a good deal on anything with them.

I saw the 600a in Harvey Norman at Indooripilly today for $2399 with 5 year warranty included, that was reduced by a few hundred since pre-xmas. But I was offered $2200 at both Retravision and JB HiFi before xmas (without extended warranty). So I expect you won't have too much trouble getting it for around $2100-2200 now.

I took delivery of the 600a the Friday before xmas and have been watching it with out of the box settings since then, just to get a feel for it. At the moment I have it connected via s-video from my Topfield PVR through my Yamaha amp, so just watching SD TV mostly. With this fairly ordinary setup the PQ is sensational, that's all I need to say about it. I am extremely satisfied with the purchase, no dead or stuck pixels either. A lot of people complain about the blacks on LCD TVs, well each to their own I guess, but the blacks on this TV will do me.

If you are happy to go with LCD (every technology has pluses and minuses), then you will not be disappointed with this TV.

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Dick Smith (DSE) is selling the TX-32LXD600A for $2200, nationwide delivery is only $20. I'm sure they'll do it for $2100 if you haggled in person.

I paid $2300 about 3 months ago. You won't have too much trouble getting it now for about $2100 if you show DSE's price to your local retailer :blink:

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Its great that they are starting to come down in price. I'm hanging out to pay around $2000 plus the extended warranty. After looking at so many LCDs I still prefer the picture of this Panasonic over the Sony and the Samsung.

Can anybody tell me what the dead pixel policy is on this TV?

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Its great that they are starting to come down in price. I'm hanging out to pay around $2000 plus the extended warranty. After looking at so many LCDs I still prefer the picture of this Panasonic over the Sony and the Samsung.

Can anybody tell me what the dead pixel policy is on this TV?

I'm not sure about the larger LCD's but for their smaller moniters it's about 3 to 5 pixels I think. On a slightly different slant I have just purchased a TX-26LXD600A and am guessing it comes with just the basic cables. Which cable connections should I go for to maximise the audio and video experience through my home theatre system?

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Check the following first:

1. Use "Extra Fine" for quality recording

2. Ensure tuner is set to digital channels

Try the following steps:

1. Press SD CARD button on remote

2. Select MPEG VIEW on screen

3. Press MENU button on remote

4. Select VIEWING SETUP on screen

5. Select FRAME SIZE on screen

Important: you must select "large" frame size BEFORE recording, only then the video will appear full screen during playback. You cannot enlarge a prerecorded video that used "normal" (small) frame size.

Well, I just spent (wasted?) $69 on a SD card. Followed the instructions above, and recorded the cricket in "extra fine" mode.

When replaying on "normal" the picture fills only about a quarter of the screen and quality is poor (worse than VCR replay).

When replaying on "large" the picture fills the whole screen and the quality is terrible, unwatchable (eg. so blurry, I was unable the read cricket scores when displayed).

I love this TV, but unless I'm doing something wrong, recording to the SD card for all practical purposes is a useless gimmick!

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Well, I just spent (wasted?) $69 on a SD card.

It may be a gimmick but for $50 more, I would have bought a real PVR (Wintal or Supernet 80GB) than a puny SD card :blink:

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I love this TV, but unless I'm doing something wrong, recording to the SD card for all practical purposes is a useless gimmick!

Which pretty much confirms what I suspected when I downloaded the manual to have a read through. Under the heading "Data Format For Card Browsing" it states:

Photo : Still images recorded with digital still cameras compatible with JPEG files of

DCF∗ and EXIF standards

Video : Videos recorded with this TV, Panasonic DVD recorder or digital camcorder

Data format : FAT12 or FAT16

Number of pixels

for motion picture : 320 x 240 (QVGA) or 176 x 144 (QCIF)

Max. number of files : 65,535

Image resolution : 8 x 8 to 5,120 x 3,840

Sound format : G.726 (32 Kbps, 8-kHz sampling frequency, monaural)

So what it seems to imply there is that the highest resolution possible is 320x240 QVGA. And that would look really ugly on a HD display!

Looks like this is the second Panasonic LCD in a row to come equipped with a "what's the point" card slot. The 500A read more card formats, but could not record. It could play back MPEG4 video - really, really badly. And it could display photos - with no control over aspect ratio so that everything was stretched, and with no EXIF support.

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Well, I just spent (wasted?) $69 on a SD card.
It may be a gimmick but for $50 more, I would have bought a real PVR (Wintal or Supernet 80GB) than a puny SD card :blink:

Or buy your memory cards on ebay, 1GB card for about $20. I have been buying my memory cards on ebay for the past 5 or so years and never had a problem with any of them.

While Panasonic could have done better in making recording to SD more functional, you could always take the view of treating it for what it is, a bit of a gimmick, a bit of technology you can just play with. It's not as if you have to pay any more for the SD card slot. The Sony 32" doesn't have an SD card slot and only has one HDMI, and costs several hundred $ more then this TV.

Buy a decent PVR as webmal suggested, you'll never look back.

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was wondering if it will fit in a large family sedan or will i have to get it delivered?

Most likely it will fit in a large sedan but bring some rope in case you can't close the boot properly.

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hey guys i'm thinking about getting this tv on friday and was wondering if it will fit in a large family sedan or will i have to get it delivered?

Well, I bought mine home in the back of a Camry (sedan). It was a tight fit and I had my daughter hanging onto it all the way home. The box it comes in is humungous, I just discarded that and sat the TV on the back seat, still sitting in it's styrofoam packaging. In hindsight I probably should have got it delivered. If it gets damaged on the way home then it probably wouldn't be covered by warranty.

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