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Lg 76cm Super Slim Crt Tv With Inbuilt Hd Tuner - 32fs4d


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Hi. Neither the owner's manual or anything I've located tells what the CRT is other than "Slim".

I am thinking the new LG-Philips Displays - 32" SuperSlim RealFlat Cybertube model W76ERS012X, announced in January 2006, is in this 32FS4D TV. Can anyone confrm that, by looking at your TV set or whatever?

I'm actually looking to do product research on the tube (W76ERS012X) - and am willing to get the TV since I cannot find the tube sold at replacement parts outlets. (OR) Would anyone know where to purchase an LG-P W76ERS012X CRT, or to find out what model brands TV sets have it!?? Thanks (OK to email me at jkorobow ((--at--)) comcast ((-dot--) net if you wish.

THANKS!!

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My girlfriend received this model for free as a replacement model for Wide screen Phillips TV. Regarding the 100Hz, she has the same flickering and I see no way how to set it on 100Hz.

I connected her old SD box (costs $89 few months ago in Myer) with S-VHS and the picture was much better than the internal tuner HD or SD. There was NO flickering at all and the picture was sharper.

LG - Shame on you for releasing partly working product ! :blink::D

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Looks like a recurring problem. I have also bought a LG 76cm HDTD (CRT) and have the same out of sinc issue. Seems to only happen on HD channels but I am testing the digital channels. I suppose buying an external box will fix it as well as being able to tape digitally on the vcr.

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I suppose buying an external box will fix it as well as being able to tape digitally on the vcr.

Don't put up with it that easily. Call LG, get a tech out, who will do a firmware update. They are aware of the problem.

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Hi all, I've been trying to decide between the LG and Samsung slim fit...

I was in Harvey Norman last week and they had the LG model with inbuilt HD tuner on display next to the slim fit Samsung WS32Z40HN (same size but without inbuilt tuner).

I noticed that the LG had a slight shimmer when looking at certain scenes, especially with large white/light coloured areas. They had the news showing, on the LG there was a very noticable shimmer on the "Ten news" watermark and text at the bottom of the screen, whereas the Samsung was dead still.

Had a look at the back of the Samsung and it was hooked up to a HD box via component, I'm guessing it could only look better hooked up via HDMI?!

Went back on the weekend to have another look and the football was on. The two sets looked almost the same, but could still notice a very slight shimmer in certain spots on the LG.

The sales assistant said they could do $960 on the Samsung (ticket price was $1099), and JB hi-fi have an el cheapo brand HD box with HDMI input for about $200. So I'm leaning towards that option.

Hope that helps for anyone who was looking for feedback on the Samsung!

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Same audio sync issue with my tv ... thought it was the old sound system I was using, but the same thing happens using the tv's own speakers.

I also have a problem with the picture. The picture on the right hand side (about 5cm from the edge) is getting squashed. Noticed it the other night when text was scrolling across the bottom of the screen, the letters where very narrow and gradually got wider until they got about 5cm onto the screen, then they trundled across the screen happily without changing size. Looked like they were marching in from the back of the screen, round the corner and then across the screen. Very strange - has anyone else had this issue or am I just lucky. I'm going to get the tech to look at it when they come out to do the firmware upgrade.

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I am very pleased with LG 32FS4D there is no shimmering on screen Unless all contrast, edge enhancements and all that would be switched on to add or subtract the impression the dealer would want to do at that time or didnt know how to set up maybe? Any case I took all settings when out of the box and halved nearly all settings as this is a very clear picture .. I think on memory 50 contrast 50 brightness, this is not LCD and does not need to worry about shadow in dimlit parts of film and blacks ARE Black etc.......Just going back as said before am waiting re sync problem as I have had firmware done and all seems ok but had not time to see as some channels were not good but others were so can not be this tele?

My other 44inch does the same sometimes in other room... this Lg is the answer for my lounge at half the price!

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Don't put up with it that easily. Call LG, get a tech out, who will do a firmware update. They are aware of the problem.

yes I have contacted LG and they have admitted "some issues" so a tech will be coming out to do the fimware upgrade. I hope this fixes the problem because I dont want to lug the tv back to the store. Good guys will take back the tv if within 2 weeks. I thought an inbuilt tuner would be the way to go but maybe not. Can't tape digital and if something goes wrong the whole tv has to be looked at!

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Things got from bad to worse.

The TV just locked itself on Channel 6 and after displaying a still pic for few minutes it turns itself off. No bottons on the TV or the remote has any influence on this problem.

The TV is 7 days old...

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Things got from bad to worse.

The TV just locked itself on Channel 6 and after displaying a still pic for few minutes it turns itself off. No bottons on the TV or the remote has any influence on this problem.

The TV is 7 days old...

hi, this is my first post, im writing as i found this site looking for ways to try and fix my 2 hour old LG 32fs4d widescreen telly. im pissed off cause i paid $1150 this arv from harvey's and i no sooner had it home plugged in the power and the aerial and now its f$$king frozen!!

the thing now only lets me turn it on and off, and mine too is stuck on ch6 "prime gold coast digital" what the hell? now im pissed of the most because there is no a/s service or contacts to have this prob fixed, and im sur when i go th h/n tomorrow thet'll tell me to piss of and come back monday! well i want to watch the GF on a brand new telly tomorrow nite thats half the reason i bought it. why does it do this? i need ammo when i go down there tomorrow cause i want to walk out of there with a new telly or im gunna cause a scene!

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hi, this is my first post, im writing as i found this site looking for ways to try and fix my 2 hour old LG 32fs4d widescreen telly. im pissed off cause i paid $1150 this arv from harvey's and i no sooner had it home plugged in the power and the aerial and now its f$$king frozen!!

the thing now only lets me turn it on and off, and mine too is stuck on ch6 "prime gold coast digital" what the hell? now im pissed of the most because there is no a/s service or contacts to have this prob fixed, and im sur when i go th h/n tomorrow thet'll tell me to piss of and come back monday! well i want to watch the GF on a brand new telly tomorrow nite thats half the reason i bought it. why does it do this? i need ammo when i go down there tomorrow cause i want to walk out of there with a new telly or im gunna cause a scene!

Well, I have good news for you:

I removed the plug from the wall for 3 hours and... when I switched it on it was working again.

That bloody thing reminds me the old digital STB that were freezing from time to time. The unfreezing in the old STB's was just by unplugging them for few seconds but in this case it did not help. It only fixed itself after few hours...

fafot

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My girlfriend received this model for free as a replacement model for Wide screen Phillips TV. Regarding the 100Hz, she has the same flickering and I see no way how to set it on 100Hz.

I connected her old SD box (costs $89 few months ago in Myer) with S-VHS and the picture was much better than the internal tuner HD or SD. There was NO flickering at all and the picture was sharper.

LG - Shame on you for releasing partly working product ! :blink::D

I note this is merely an "HD ready" product.

Even "actual HD" crt tv's struggle to provide 100Hz at 1080i. They are usually capable of 100Hz at SD scan rates of 576 horizontal lines interlaced (i.e a doubling of the scan rate telecast), but often for the high definition format of 1080 interlaced they can only manage 50Hz (i.e. the actual scan rate telecast).

However, it appears the set you are talking about has issues that go beyond this.

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I bought this tv two weeks ago...24 september from The Good Guys Robina..Gold Coast

Its FANTASTIC!!!

had an electronic expert set it up with our dvd surround sound..and WOW!!

he's got it, so u can listen to the tv/dvd/video thru the 5 surround sound speakers + subwoofer + two tv speakers ( which u can adjust the treble/bass etc)...incredible movie theatre sound...even with just the tv speakers working..the way the sound is..it seperates the background sound from the speach and sound doesnt blurr etc..a problem older tvs have with the newer tv shows 'realistic' sounds

u have approx 6 color scheme choices + u can create ur own..theres two 'user' choices to do this

also 1 user choice for sound..again u have approx 6 sound choices eg movie, sport...

just let ur tv automatically set up the channels, u cant do too much with that..just write down the numbers + stations..easy

the expert we had, said, dont buy lcd, plasma, rear projector etc...after 1 -2 years things always go wrong and in the small print of the warrenty, it doesnt cover what usually goes wrong eg tube in the rear projector etc..crts have a long history and the bugs are worked out...with the slim line..definitly get the extended warrenty, but no reason to have problems etc..

with the black surroundings of the screen, when a show is in analogue 4:3 u dont notice the black bars...

i would sooo reccommend this TV...and The Good Guys with their fantastic service + 30 day warrenty if u see it cheaper etc..is a reassurance.

u use it a bit like 'microsoft windows' with its side by side menus, easy to use...

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the expert we had, said, dont buy lcd, plasma, rear projector etc...after 1 -2 years things always go wrong..

In comparison, you could buy an LG CRT and have it go wrong out of the box. Why wait 2 years. :ph34r:

Sorry, a bit harsh... Acutally I'm looking at this model myself, but have been put off by the HD tuner issues.

Perhaps LG have sorted out the firmware issue.

Have you noted any of the dreaded lip sync issues?

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Just something Interesting I Noticed at Harvey Norman yesterday; (Whilst checking on my Order for a Toshi 36JW9UA)

Harvey Norman Marion (SA) has both the HDCP/100Hz Set and the Inbuilt HD Tuner Set on diaply - Both Running off a External Phillips HD Tuner.

Not off the Internal HD DTV Decoder...

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I've bought the Samsung 76cm Slim fit CRT WS-32Z40HN and have geometry and distortion issues e.g. in 4:3 programs bars on each side are slightly bent instead of vertical (noticebale!) and faces "fuzzy" on close up shots.

Samsung said take it back to store as only a few days old and sounds like picture tube problem. Good Guys (Caringbah, NSW) reckon I'd probably have the same geometry problem with a new Samsung set (???) and recommend switching to LG brand :blink: Help!!!!

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Well I got my tv back last week ... only took the server center a just over a week to upgrade the software (not to mention that they didn't do anything to fix the 16:9 100Hz component input not filling the screen). On the up side the lip sync problem on channels 9 and 10 (1080i broadcast) has been fixed. However I noticed the other night that the lip sync issue is now affecting SBS (576p) ... made Mythbusters very hard to watch and I ended up swapping over to watch it through Foxtel. I then I noticed it on ABC (720p) in Enough Rope. Very annoying. Haven't had a chance to call LG and complain as yet. Anyone else noticed this issue with the new software?

All in all I started out very happy with the TV ... but now I'm starting to wish I'd spend the extra $900 and gotten a decend LCD with a digital tuner that works!

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How frustrating!

I'd say, get a refund!

In these forums, I was advised the improved PQ with HD isn't noticeable at 76cm (or 32") screen size, unless you sit closer than 2m away.

choice.com.au have some useful free info about consumer rights. Sounds like the goods weren't of "merchantable quality" i.e. you're entitled to refund.

My SlimFit Samsung WS32Z40HN is definitely faulty. I'm getting it replaced, new. It only cost $899-. I could buy a quality PVR as well and still be in front compared with buying a 32" SD LCD or plasma. Bulkiness isn't a problem for where my TV is placed.

Good luck!

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choice.com.au have some useful free info about consumer rights. Sounds like the goods weren't of "merchantable quality" i.e. you're entitled to refund.

Thanks, I'll look into that. Although I'm not overly confident since it's been 6 weeks since I brought it. Can't see JB's being too keen to take it back.

LG advised me to get the server mob back again so that they can log the problem ... probably another afternoon sitting round waiting for them to show up ... can't wait.

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I to have problem with latest firm ware regarding lip sync has not completely gone not good on abc. It is not the station as I was told because my external box in other room does not do it,so please Lg sort it out! will you let me know how you get on with your complaint maybe they can up grade the new firmware!?

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Well I'm glad I'm not alone. Felt like I was going crazy the other night, flicking between channels trying to work out if the sound lines up. Must depend on the speaker, some people it looks very close to being right, others look way off ... then if your lucky someone will clap or hit something and you realise that the sound is definately out.

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Well I'm glad I'm not alone. Felt like I was going crazy the other night, flicking between channels trying to work out if the sound lines up. Must depend on the speaker, some people it looks very close to being right, others look way off ... then if your lucky someone will clap or hit something and you realise that the sound is definately out.

Will you ring Lg like me and complain this is the only way to resolve this ,let me know what they say I will do the same thanks..

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This sounds like a problem child model! Perhap you should return it if they can't fix it next time.

Even at >6 weeks old, you have rights with JB HiFi as the retailer. They will try to fob you off to LG, saying that because it's 6 weeks old you have to claim under warranty with LG, that a LG tech has to see it, "it's store policy" etc. etc. When did you first report the fault? That's the date which is taken into account, not the TV's current age.

The goods a store sells must be of "MERCHANTABLE QUALITY" and "FREE OF DEFECTS". Sound out of sync is a defect!!! A TV of "merchantable quality" should work properly at 6 week's old. Especially, if the problem persists after "repair".

NSW Office of Fair Trading (OFT) has useful info, too....http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/shopping/refundsrepairs.html#When%20can%20consumers%20insist%20on%20a%20refund?

Suggest you deal with the store manager right from the start. Quote the website above, even take a printout, and insist on your rights. Ask and make note of the full names of everyone you speak to- on phone or in person- accountability helps sharpen their minds! Suggest if they won't replace or refund, you'll make a complaint to the OFT.

Can you tell I've had problems like this before? (Samsung have just tried to give me the runaround on a 3 day old TV).

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Rang LG a couple of days ago to complain. They confirmed that the software update I had was the latest and greatest and "should" have fixed all the sound sync problems. They said there weren't aware of any other problems and that I should call the service center that did the update so that they can investigate and submit a full report so that the LG engineers can investigate. They also suggested that I do an Auto Program to refresh all the channels. Not sure if it's made any difference or not, ABC still looks/sounds wrong to me ... I'm sick of watching people lips to see if they are in sync or not - It's taking all the fun out of tv :D

Even caught myself doing it on the Foxtel channels the other day! (in case your wondering, they are in sync :blink: )

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Does the audio sync problems only happen when watching from the inbuilt sd/hd tuner?

I mainly want to buy this model in order to play xbox 360. That should be ok shouldn't it? Also doesn't this TV have a standard 4:3 analoge tuner? Is that out of sync?

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Well, I spoke to JB's on the weekend and they want LG to look at the TV before they'll talk about a refund. On the upside the manager contacted the LG rep to get this looked into. Apparently LG is going to contact me to organise the service mob to come out again, although I haven't heard anything as yet. Fingers crossed they actually sort it out this time.

This morning my flatmate was watching channel 7 and noticed that it has a lip sync issue as well. Probably not surprising since it's a 576p broadcast like SBS. Guess I didn't notice it because I never watch channel 7 :blink:

mrpickle: The problem is only in the hi def tuner ... standard def broadcasts seem fine (not that I've watched much of them). It does have an analog tuner, but it seems to keep stretching the 4:3 picture to fill the screen ... a little annoying, but you can fix it in the menu. But then, if you've got the digital channels why would you watch the analog versions? Unless you're a big fan of Bris31 (or whatever your local version is)

If your just hooking up an xbox you shouldn't have any problems. I run foxtel through mine without any issues.

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LG have already had a go, haven't they? And it's still defective. Jb HiFi are spinning s***, but, hey, I guess you just want a functioning TV!

If not fixed this time, go in waving the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) website printout and stand in the middle of the store with your very heavy 76cm TV until they do something. I'm still waiting for my replacement Samsung 76cm TV to arrive...they tried the old, "Samsung have to look at it" thing with me, too, and only caved when I quoted OFT.

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The problem is only in the hi def tuner ... standard def broadcasts seem fine (not that I've watched

Just out of curiosity: On the LG this size, are you able to detect much PQ difference between the HD and SD broadcast?

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yes this is all sounding very familiar to me. I had the tech come out to do the firmware upgrade. I wasn't sure before he left if it was fixed or not but sure enough, the lips were out of sinch on hd before too long. The sd channels seemed ok but now I notice that they are sometimes out. In fact it is one of those inconsistent problems. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't so it is frustrating. I have resorted to only using the sd channels because it is less likely to happen and there is very little difference between sd and hd - maybe the sound is better on hd? The tech said he had done everything he could and said that all digital tvs are out from time to time. I will try the auto channel refresh but I'm guessing it wont work. This is annoying because apart from this issue, the TV set is really good in every other way - picture, looks, sound quality.

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I have the same problem! it now is going on for sometime, there are times when it is bad and sometimes not so bad but I can not put up with it anymore.What is everybody doing about it? have we all phoned up Lg and asked them to do something about it! it is not just one person but many more , tell them to look at this site and they will see all the comments.. They need to address this problem quickly for all concerned . I am doing my bit please all do the same...and get this sorted !

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I finally got a call from LG yesterday, I think he was in the dispute resolution department or something like that. Anyway, the long and short of if it is they want to send out a tech to look at the TV ... hopefully they aren't going to take it away again, but I'm not holding my breath. I'll post back after the service guy has looked at it.

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What the?

Can one of the more senior forum members confirm this is untrue?

I think it is straight out of the "complaint received and processed manual", otherwise known as C.R.A.P. Unfortunately used all too commonly in the IT industry.

Personally I would be insisting that they either replace the TV with a working one, give money back, or supply a working LG external HD STB at no cost.

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I have the same problem! it now is going on for sometime, there are times when it is bad and sometimes not so bad but I can not put up with it anymore.What is everybody doing about it? have we all phoned up Lg and asked them to do something about it! it is not just one person but many more , tell them to look at this site and they will see all the comments.. They need to address this problem quickly for all concerned . I am doing my bit please all do the same...and get this sorted !

Ok - try this....I have and it seems to have fixed it but still not 100% sure....

Use the menu auto channel set up again AFTER the upgrade is done...

Will see how it goes

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Ok - try this....I have and it seems to have fixed it but still not 100% sure....

Use the menu auto channel set up again AFTER the upgrade is done...

Will see how it goes

I'm sorry to hear you are all still having problems with this set. I bought the previous model and had to reurn it for other issues (buzzing eht noise, poor geometry, grey line through the screen that wouldn't go away). Damn shame as I feel CRT is still the Gold standard but too bulky, I'll keep dreaming of SED

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I don't wanna use the in built digital tuner (I'll keep watching DTV though my topfield), I just want a CRT that will do 720p/1080i for my Xbox360. Does this TV actually display 720p/1080i or does it simply accept them and downscale to 576p etc.

Thanks all :blink: .

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Went to Harvey Norman in Dandenong yesterday to look at this LG set and also the Samsung slimfit HD CRT. They were set up side by side and both had a pretty good picture, however I was really dissapointed with the Samsung as it definitely had horrible geometry problems when displaying 4:3 material. I really was quite interested in the Samsung, but after seeing the geometry problems that have been discussed on AVS forums in such detail, I obviously need to reconsider.

I will keep saving my money and will look towards either an LCD or a plasma.

So dissapointed as I really was hoping the Samsung would work out. Oh well!

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