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Ok, since the other thread was rudely closed, here is a another, though slightly different.

What is the concensus, the new NEC 50" or a Pana 50". Does the 50" pana have the great blacks of the 42", or is the glass different? does the 50" Pana have all the settings of the 42", or are they different? Anyone else seen the NEC and been able to compare it with a Pana?

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Ok, since the other thread was rudely closed, here is a another, though slightly different.

What is the concensus, the new NEC 50" or a Pana 50". Does the 50" pana have the great blacks of the 42", or is the glass different? does the 50" Pana have all the settings of the 42", or are they different? Anyone else seen the NEC and been able to compare it with a Pana?

When you went to the shops to have a look, what did you think? Just out of interest which thread got closed?

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I loved the NEC but I didn't see it next to a panasonic. I haven't seen a panasonic, I'm just going on what everyone on here says about them and their blacks, blacks are very important to me. Nec's are good, but maybe the pana's are better? The thread you responded to last, about putting it in the humour section, that one is closed. That had a lot more life left in it! :blink:

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I loved the NEC but I didn't see it next to a panasonic. I haven't seen a panasonic, I'm just going on what everyone on here says about them and their blacks, blacks are very important to me. Nec's are good, but maybe the pana's are better? The thread you responded to last, about putting it in the humour section, that one is closed. That had a lot more life left in it! :blink:
Oh I see. One can see it, and view it, but one can't post to it. Interesting.

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Ok, since the other thread was rudely closed, here is a another, though slightly different.

What is the concensus, the new NEC 50" or a Pana 50". Does the 50" pana have the great blacks of the 42", or is the glass different? does the 50" Pana have all the settings of the 42", or are they different? Anyone else seen the NEC and been able to compare it with a Pana?

I reckon it's a bit odd that you're asking what the consensus is?

If there has been anything resembling a consensus on this forum it has been that the Fujitsus are the ant's pants of plasmas. But you seem to think you have been led astray by that opinion, to the extent of losing over a grand and having to sell a recently purchased plasma.

So, why would you want to know what the other forum members think and which brands/models they prefer?

Just curious as it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

PS I still reckon the best advice is to make sure you have a chance to judge for yourself before buying, but you've heard that before. :blink:

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I reckon it's a bit odd that you're asking what the consensus is?

If there has been anything resembling a consensus on this forum it has been that the Fujitsus are the ant's pants of plasmas. But you seem to think you have been led astray by that opinion, to the extent of losing over a grand and having to sell a recently purchased plasma.

So, why would you want to know what the other forum members think and which brands/models they prefer?

Just curious as it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

PS I still reckon the best advice is to make sure you have a chance to judge for yourself before buying, but you've heard that before. :blink:

Its not like our eyes all differ that much, we're all the same species, we have relatively the same eyes give or take poor eye sight etc... but mostly its the same. The Fuji crowd recommended them but nobody seemed to catch on to the fact that the AS model was 1000:1 contrast which ruined the blacks, and they're all using fuji's with 3000:1 apparently.

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You may want to consider waiting for the upcoming 6th(?) gen Pana panels (60/600 series) as referred to in one of the other active threads.

According to the press release from Pana (a link for which is in that thread), these new panels will have 10,000:1 contrast ratio (which probably means more than when LG say they have 10,000:1, ie it will be pretty damned good)

The 50" Fuji screens with the "better" contrast ratio (3000:1) also use Pana glass, and they perform very well.. so assuming 10,000:1 is an accurate assesment by Pana, then one could imagine a significant improvement in the new gen panels

but anyway, as always, I would want to see ANY screen in action before spending my cash, rather than assuming popular opinion = good panel. If I were choosing between two panels, i'd be trying pretty hard to see them side-by-side :blink:

also depends how long you are willing to wait?

cheers :P

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Its not like our eyes all differ that much, we're all the same species, we have relatively the same eyes give or take poor eye sight etc... but mostly its the same. The Fuji crowd recommended them but nobody seemed to catch on to the fact that the AS model was 1000:1 contrast which ruined the blacks, and they're all using fuji's with 3000:1 apparently.

Obitus, for crying out loud!!! I am now convinced that you are the king of the 'nonsensical360degreeturnitaroundwhenitsuitsme' reply :blink: , how do you possibly get satisfaction when you are purchasing your equipment based solely on the casual recommendations of others?

Clearly you didn't do any 'viewing' homework before buying the Fuji that you are now so desperate to get rid of. You were so concerned with saving less than 10% off retail that you bought the damn thing sight unseen without even letting a retailer match the Ebay price. Imagine if you had let a retailer match the price, and demo the unit for you and offer you a 30 day return policy...wow...now that would have solved a lot of problems for you I'll bet :P

Take some responsibility for your life and your purchases, they are your choice and your choice alone. Blaming eveyone else for 'misleading' you into a naive purchase is like saying you're pissed about the new government you just helped vote in becuase the pamphlets they gave you at the polling booth did not say they might not keep all their promises :P

Just in case you are not 'getting it': Go and 'look' at all the plasmas available, then pick one based on what your own eyes tell you is BEST!

Thank you, I'm here all week...try the veal :P

Curious

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Whats the best store anyway to see a large range, harvey norman or domayne? I hear they are one in the same, same people own both companies etc....

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Whats the best store anyway to see a large range, harvey norman or domayne? I hear they are one in the same, same people own both companies etc....

megamart used to be pretty good, but they have been bought-out by HN, so I guess as far as "big stores" go, Hardley is one of the few options...

Clive Peeters? Retravision?

Some Myers stores have a pretty big range.

I havnt seen too many specialised stores than stock Pana tho... well, the ones I have been to usually have Fuji, NEC, or some of those other "high end" brands which are re-badged anyway..

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Whats the best store anyway to see a large range, harvey norman or domayne? I hear they are one in the same, same people own both companies etc....

Obitus, you really are easing the urine you know...

In answer to your question: Try one or the other, or both, or none, or ring Good Guys and have one home delivered....what are you agoraphobic or something?

For Pete's sake, just get your lazy arse up off the couch and walk to the nearest shopping precinct, they are bound to have some sort of Plasma for sale!

Here's a tip: If you see one and you don't like it, then don't buy it....

I'll be happy to share another tip when you ask me if you should walk left or right after exiting your front door... :blink:

Curious

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Where are you based Obitus ?

Len Wallis (Lane Cove) is a good starting point in Sydney.

I'll tag along if you are interested.

J.

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Len Wallis (Lane Cove) is a good starting point in Sydney.

Len Wallis is no good for Obitus.

They have NEC's set up against Fujitsu's

Anyone can see that the Fujitsu's are superior.

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Len Wallis is no good for Obitus.

They have NEC's set up against Fujitsu's

Anyone can see that the Fujitsu's are superior.

I am interested in this comparison - so will need to go back to LW and have a look. There isn't much feedback on the Australian forums about the new NEC screens.

I presume that you had a look at these two?

J.

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Obitus is actually correct.

If you bought from the advice in this Forum you would have an over-priced Fujitsu with an equally overpriced AUSID HD STB.

This is certainly not even close to the "best value" choice for most people.

A Pana or Pioneer with either a Teac or Hotchip STB will give you around 99% of the PQ for about 30% less in price.

All imho.

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Obitus is actually correct.

If you bought from the advice in this Forum you would have an over-priced Fujitsu with an equally overpriced AUSID HD STB.

This is certainly not even close to the "best value" choice for most people.

A Pana or Pioneer with either a Teac or Hotchip STB will give you around 99% of the PQ for about 30% less in price.

All imho.

Funny how things go round on this forum.

When I first visited this site a while back the NEC was the hot favourite and then one member (who not been posting for a while now) purchased a 50" Fuji US model.

Subsequently, club fuji evolved and the NEC fell of the face of the earth. It would be interesting if the NEC became the new "must have" plasma again.

Orbitus your inability to .............. nah never mind its not worth it. It's like water off a ducks back, luckily for you.

Hopefully you'll make a decision soon based on what your eyes percieve as the best panel (with the best blacks of course) armed with the knowledge you have gained from this forum.

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Obitus is actually correct.

If you bought from the advice in this Forum you would have an over-priced Fujitsu with an equally overpriced AUSID HD STB.

This is certainly not even close to the "best value" choice for most people.

A Pana or Pioneer with either a Teac or Hotchip STB will give you around 99% of the PQ for about 30% less in price.

All imho.

Hmmm.......could this be why I'm so happy with my Pioneer plasma and Teac STB? (originally intended as a stopgap while waiting a month or so for the Toppy mirage). :blink:

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Obitus is actually correct.

If you bought from the advice in this Forum you would have an over-priced Fujitsu with an equally overpriced AUSID HD STB.

This is certainly not even close to the "best value" choice for most people.

A Pana or Pioneer with either a Teac or Hotchip STB will give you around 99% of the PQ for about 30% less in price.

All imho.

Im glad you put in IMHO.

The best value option cant be answered very easily.

On the other hand the best PQ can be. Ive owned the Teac and used the Hotchip boxes and can tell you the Ausid wins hands down on my Fuji. The Teac is great box for the price (at first I thought the Teac was sharper than the Ausid but in the end couldnt live with the pixelation) and the Hotchip well I leave that one alone.

As far as panels go I still havent seen anything which comes close to my 50US Fuji in PQ.

So to say you were miss lead by info on this forum you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

I too loved the Nec once until the 50US Fuji model came out.

Until something comes out that blows the Fuji out of the water then I will swear by it.

But of course thats IMHO, but then again Ive owned and used many of the top rating displays and HD STB out there.

What do you base your options on Doug ?

Oh and dont forget the challenged I gave you as well. You could be walking away with the best HDSTB in Australia for free. :blink:

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I cant wait for Oby's next purchase, we can start from the very beginning again.

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I cant wait for Oby's next purchase, we can start from the very beginning again.

hmmmm..... now where is the power switch again

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Mmm, I'm in the market for a new panel and I checked out the Panasonics (42 and 50) on the weekend. As people say the PQ is great however I can't get past the strip of plastic/rubber around the screen that is easily dented and would annoy the hell out of me after spending all that money. All the Panas I've seen (at 3 stores) had the same type of dents around the border - doesn't it bother anybody else? Maybe I'm just picky...

Cheers,

John

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Mmm, I'm in the market for a new panel and I checked out the Panasonics (42 and 50) on the weekend. As people say the PQ is great however I can't get past the strip of plastic/rubber around the screen that is easily dented and would annoy the hell out of me after spending all that money. All the Panas I've seen (at 3 stores) had the same type of dents around the border - doesn't it bother anybody else? Maybe I'm just picky...

Cheers,

John

Im more interested in the picture than slight indentations.

I guess its a bit like Channel Logos. If you focus on the picture the logos seem insignificant.

Incidently the strip is the speakers.

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