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Would Len Wallis have it on display? Is this where u looked at XR4?

Actually you are right... VP30 should be able to upscale to 1080p...it is just it can not take 1080p sources as yet if I am not wrong.... I hope this is not another reason to hold you up for making the final decision...

Looks like u need to work on few more things now..

Bezel color change on Pio pro 42"

50" vs 42"

2 c if NEC XR5 accepts 1080p input via HDMI or Component...

Fun fun fun....can't wait to hear you say I GOT MY PLASMA DELIVERED!

I can't wait either!!

I did the 42 to 50 comparisson at Len, however I"m not sure how willing they would be for me to connect a scaler etc.. in their show room .... I don't normally think of them as 'consumer friendly' .... my local shop is pretty easy ... .hence I've tested the VP30 with the NEC 42", hitachi 55", fuji 50", etc.. but my local doesn't have the NEC 50" .... hence the problem... or challenge???

will definitely keep you posted!

Cheers,

Marcelo

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David, I am confused. Why buy a second one? - I use mine for both kvhr and pj. Just a flick of the switch profile 1 to profile 2 now gives me crt or pj (one is on rgbhv and the other is hdmi output)

If in another room thats a different scenario. Yes it certainly improves the kvhr (along with calibration), but no I wouldn't spend $3 grand on a 2nd seperate scaler for just a 86cm telly. Ask Aaron yourself - he liked the result of the vp30/kvhr combo - it was his first time with the combo.

The calibration alone on the kvhr would be worth it - mine was poor out of the box (measured at 14000K instead of 6500K which is typical he said - helps shops sell if a little blue).

Hi Norpus,

thanks for the report.

My projector and KVHR are, indeed, in seperate rooms.

In some ways, Im glad that you have reported that the improvements wouldnt justify a 2nd VP30 - if it was, I wasnt sure how I would be able to sell the idea to the Financial Controller :blink: .

I think I will just settle for Aaron to calibrate the KVHR.

Many thanks

David

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Chui and Marcelo,

I've got the VP30 running OK now.

Using hdmi 720p @60hz all around for output

Question is 60hz considered better than 50hz when using the standard 720p. I felt it was better than the 50hz.

Also to note was that the colors worked a bit better with component, as the facial colors really need to be tuned down in saturation to make it look good.

I am thinking about vga now and seeing what the results might be.

I wish I could "beam down" someone who could set up native rate to see what everyone is talking about :blink:

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Chui and Marcelo,

I've got the VP30 running OK now.

Using hdmi 720p @60hz all around for output

Question is 60hz considered better than 50hz when using the standard 720p. I felt it was better than the 50hz.

Also to note was that the colors worked a bit better with component, as the facial colors really need to be tuned down in saturation to make it look good.

I am thinking about vga now and seeing what the results might be.

I wish I could "beam down" someone who could set up native rate to see what everyone is talking about :blink:

Hi MRDoggy,

The colour controls for the HDMI and VGA need to be calibrated indendently (hence the difference in colours, contrast, black levels, etc...) - good component should be very close to good dvi/hdmi no issues there.

The 60hz or 50hz question - if you don't see any judder @ 60hz (and the ABT is great at framerate conversion) - you might as well run it at 60hz ... you could also try 59.94 as many plasmas support that and it causes less judder then 60hz ....

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Hi Misterdoggy,

I cant see why you can't use 720p@50. That way there isn't any FRC.

As per my PM, yes the first lot of settings were for PC(VGA) input on the panel. I think this is a superior picture.

Try using those settings I supplied and change clock, etc on the panel

To change clock & phase on the panel go:-

Menu>Setup Menu>PC Setup. This gives acces to:-

Clock

H-Position

V-Position

Clock Phase

Sync

Cheers

Chui

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Hi MRDoggy,

The colour controls for the HDMI and VGA need to be calibrated indendently (hence the difference in colours, contrast, black levels, etc...) - good component should be very close to good dvi/hdmi no issues there.

The 60hz or 50hz question - if you don't see any judder @ 60hz (and the ABT is great at framerate conversion) - you might as well run it at 60hz ... you could also try 59.94 as many plasmas support that and it causes less judder then 60hz ....

Big Marcelo

I don't know or can't find the word indendently. Perhaps a mispelling of another word like independently ? Do you mean I have to adjust it by "eye" to what pleases me maybe ?

What is and how do you detect judder ? I mean if the repeat rate 60hz is faster than the picture should be better and therefore 60hz is better than 50hz.

I am using the temporary unit loaned to me until I take delivery of the maching with the abt card in it. The picture looks good in both 50hz and 60hz hdmi. I am wondering how to "test" to see if there is judder and learn what to look for.

Chui,

Thanks for responding. I am guessing that FRC is Frequence Rate Conversion. So going at 50hz sounds like a better idea, because FRC is better avoided then?

Also your settings in VGA only seem to be 1280 x 720 and not 768. So what is the difference if I stay hdmi as I can have 720p in both component and hdmi ?

I know these must be stupid questions, but the learning curve is coming along.

Can you recommend a cable vga/rgb I found a Oelbach vga/5bnc in Germany

thanks to both of you :blink:

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Some user reviews on AVS forum starting to appear. All sounds very encouraging...

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Working next to DVDO has its advantages. I received my ABT102 on Wednesday. I had already upgraded my firmware to 1.07 beta, so installation was literally unscrew the cover, snap in two standoffs plus the card, reattach the cover and go. There was no software configuration necessary. Deinterlacing defaults to auto and there's relatively little need to change it from that setting.

Before and after installation, I ran through the ABT test disc, the SiliconOptix disc, DVE montage of images, as well as selected tests from the Microsoft and Avia discs. The difference was very impressive. The 102 passed basically every test I could throw at it whereas the Sil504 failed most of the non-mainstream tests. The edge detection stuff works very well. The difficult sailboat rigging test on the ABT disc was flickering tremendously on the 504, but was cleaned up immensely on the 102. Out of the 50 or so ropes in the moving shot only a few thin ropes in the background showed any hint of flicker. Also this is the least amount of flicker I've ever seen on the DVE "zoom out from the leafy tree" test. Admittedly I haven't been able to evaluate the HQV part, but it's definitely better than I'd seen with other deinterlacers including the former king of video mode, Faroudja. Overall the Montage Of Images looks awesome. Real world tests are equally impressive. As Gary has stated there is very little flicker on challenging material like guitar strings on concert DVDs. The cadence detection stuff is equally impressive. Finally animation is comb free. Most of the cadences locked on very quickly with 2:2 being a bit slower than the rest. 3:2 Film mode deinterlacing looks very similar to the Sil504. I'd almost say it looks sharper/clearer, but its probably just the placebo effect of a new toy.

The ABT test disc is nice bonus. It has the standard display adjustment patterns, plus the widest variety of cadence tests I've yet seen. Interestingly the race car and coffee shop bits are the same stock footage SiliconOptix used on their disc. The edge detection patterns are good, though repeats of similar patterns I've got elsewhere. The image montage stuff is decent though in my opinion DVE covers a bit more ground as a torture test and is arguably more interesting to watch. The menus on the ABT disc are simple and no-nonsense which I appreciate, though beginners might prefer the more explanatory approach that SiliconOptix took on their disc. Also, not a big deal, but I would have preferred the DVD to come in a standard case for storage as opposed to a paper sleeve.

All in all I'm thrilled with the ABT102. Definitely the best $200 upgrade I've purchased in very long time.

- Collin

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I don't know or can't find the word indendently. Perhaps a mispelling of another word like independently ? Do you mean I have to adjust it by "eye" to what pleases me maybe ?

What is and how do you detect judder ? I mean if the repeat rate 60hz is faster than the picture should be better and therefore 60hz is better than 50hz.

I am using the temporary unit loaned to me until I take delivery of the maching with the abt card in it. The picture looks good in both 50hz and 60hz hdmi. I am wondering how to "test" to see if there is judder and learn what to look for.

Chui,

Thanks for responding. I am guessing that FRC is Frequence Rate Conversion. So going at 50hz sounds like a better idea, because FRC is better avoided then?

Also your settings in VGA only seem to be 1280 x 720 and not 768. So what is the difference if I stay hdmi as I can have 720p in both component and hdmi ?

I know these must be stupid questions, but the learning curve is coming along.

Can you recommend a cable vga/rgb I found a Oelbach vga/5bnc in Germany

thanks to both of you :blink:

Sorry, I meant idependently! - judder is easier to see on long panning motions or scrolling text - like titles or CNN newstickers ..... or if you watch soccer, a long ball pass may not be smooth if there is judder present ...... the best possible framerate is the same one that the signal is in ... ie: you receive 50hz in from the tv signal and passthough 50hz to your panel ... assuming your panel accepts that rate (the pana does over component/rgb).... that's what the DVDO calls 'locked' framerate... it locks the frame rate to the 'incoming signal's' framerate .....

720p is a sgtandard rate and easy to send to he panel with no complications - to get 768p correctl yyou need to modify the settings of the signal to match your panel.

720p should be accepted at both 50hz and 60hz .....

so you could choose 720p locked (matching the incoming signal)....

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Thanks Marcelo,

I was reading a review about the Mark Levinson Media Console 40 and because it was so expensive and in a league by itself the reviewer had nothing to compare it with. So he made a comparison with an Anthem20 which he had.

I then went to Anthem's site and discovered that the new Anthem D2 not only does upscaling of audio signals but also incorporated upconversions too. It uses the Gennum GF9350 VXP Image Processor.

Wow I thought, Processor, Preamp, upscaler, upconvertor and DAC all in one unit. They compared the video processing to the vp30 !!

I have everything separate: Mark Levinson DAC, Preamp, Lexicon Processor, VP30 all to do what the Anthem does. It would be hard to imagine the Anthem could perform like all these separates though

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Chui,

Thanks for responding. I am guessing that FRC is Frequence Rate Conversion. So going at 50hz sounds like a better idea, because FRC is better avoided then?

Also your settings in VGA only seem to be 1280 x 720 and not 768. So what is the difference if I stay hdmi as I can have 720p in both component and hdmi ?

I know these must be stupid questions, but the learning curve is coming along.

Can you recommend a cable vga/rgb I found a Oelbach vga/5bnc in Germany

thanks to both of you

Hi Misterdoggy,

I sent you two sets of figures. The VGA settings were definately NOT 1280*720. Check the H-Size & V-Size figures and one of them will be 1366*768.

Send me a PM if you need them again.

Cheers,

Chui

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Hi Misterdoggy,

I sent you two sets of figures. The VGA settings were definately NOT 1280*720. Check the H-Size & V-Size figures and one of them will be 1366*768.

Send me a PM if you need them again.

Cheers,

Chui

Anyone heard when the ABT102 deinterlacer card is arriving in Aust?

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Thanks Marcelo,

I was reading a review about the Mark Levinson Media Console 40 and because it was so expensive and in a league by itself the reviewer had nothing to compare it with. So he made a comparison with an Anthem20 which he had.

I then went to Anthem's site and discovered that the new Anthem D2 not only does upscaling of audio signals but also incorporated upconversions too. It uses the Gennum GF9350 VXP Image Processor.

Wow I thought, Processor, Preamp, upscaler, upconvertor and DAC all in one unit. They compared the video processing to the vp30 !!

I have everything separate: Mark Levinson DAC, Preamp, Lexicon Processor, VP30 all to do what the Anthem does. It would be hard to imagine the Anthem could perform like all these separates though

I would prefer separates.... I also read a brief review of it, and I don't think it has all the settings & flexibility the VP30 has.... sure it must be simpler to set up... but I'd go for for separates myself....

Anyone heard when the ABT102 deinterlacer card is arriving in Aust?

I asked about mine today - haven't had a reply yet - however the USA units are just starting to ship now.... I guess they'd probably ship to US customers first.

I'm waiting for it to arrive to also install the IR lens replacement... do all at once....

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I asked about mine today - haven't had a reply yet - however the USA units are just starting to ship now.... I guess they'd probably ship to US customers first.

Mine was sent off by airmail 3 days ago. Should be here any day now. Like you Marcelo, I'll install the lens at the same time.

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Did you guys get the lens replacement from the AUS dealer? or the group buy dealer?

I got mine from the Australian distributor Synergy Audio.

Like everyone else, I'll be doing both the Lens change and Card Insert at the same time :blink:

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Oh... I should ring them for mine too then...

Thanks Foggy and Marcelo...

I will also be doing the Lens replacement (when I get it..), SDI card upgrade and the Deinterlace card all at the same time..

I heard someone was saying that the firmware needs to be upgraded to 1.07 beta to get the new card working.. is it true?

Mine is still on the original version...had no reason for the upgrade so far...

Also...I haven't got SDI mod DVD player yet and knowing Blu-ray or HD-DVD players coming to the stores pretty soon..don't know if it is still worth getting a new DVD with SDI mod...I also hear about HD-SDI too...

Never ending story...

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Yes Aussie, you'll need to upgrade to v1.07.

I wouldn't bother with an SDI modded player. I'll probably just get an Oppo and send the VP30 576i via DVI.

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Yes Aussie, you'll need to upgrade to v1.07.

I wouldn't bother with an SDI modded player. I'll probably just get an Oppo and send the VP30 576i via DVI.

Thanks Foggy.

Would u recommend that I should sell my SDI card?

Any takers???

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Yes Aussie, you'll need to upgrade to v1.07.

I wouldn't bother with an SDI modded player. I'll probably just get an Oppo and send the VP30 576i via DVI.

Ah, problema here Foggy. Oppo doesn't do 480/576i, only 480/576p on DVI. I've just received my SDI kit from Pixel Magic, so may be installing that this week sometime. I ordered the SDI VP30 card at the same time as the VP30 and got that at USD100 at the time. (Lenexpo). SDI kit from Pixel Magic came in at USD168 (total ripp-off for what you get - one small PCB with an even smaller IC on it - but that's the way it is :blink: ). Hope that it'll be worth it. If it works out (blows off my socks), then I'll have a pretty well priced top-of-the-line DVD player at a very reasonable price all up. :P

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I'm waiting for the new Oppo models to come out ( that send 480i/576i via HDMI ).

However, from what I've read, an SDI modded DVD player should still look better because it bypasses the colour space conversion to 4:4:4 RGB by the DVD player.

Still, for US$200 for the new Oppo (if and when it comes out), it's a damn sight cheaper than US$900 for the cheapest SDI option ( SDI VP30 card $400, SDI mod for DVD player $300, Oppo DVD player $200 ).

I can't believe the difference is worth 4.5x the price. But if you NEEDED the best possible picture and were willing to pay, then keep the SDI card.

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Sorry Phil, I should have been more specific; I intend to wait for the new Oppo 970H. The current 971H has those restrictions on the DVI out, but Kris Deering has a pre-release 970H and says that it does do it. :P There's a thread on this at AVS.

I just don't think the money you spend on SDI modding a DVD player will give you a sufficient payback, but that's just a gut feel and not based on any empirical evidence, so I'm happy to be proven wrong.... then I might buy Aussie's SDI card!! :blink:

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Sorry Phil, I should have been more specific; I intend to wait for the new Oppo 970H. The current 971H has those restrictions on the DVI out, but Kris Deering has a pre-release 970H and says that it does do it. :blink: There's a thread on this at AVS.

Trouble with 970H is that is has HDCP enabled over HDMI (even at 480i according to Kris) - a no go for me as my display (professional LCD panel) is not HDCP equipped. I've been following that thread ever since its inception. Some say that it won't be long before someone will crack the firmware to remove HDCP. Maybe I should have waited ordering that SDI module?

Still, for US$200 for the new Oppo (if and when it comes out), it's a damn sight cheaper than US$900 for the cheapest SDI option ( SDI VP30 card $400, SDI mod for DVD player $300, Oppo DVD player $200 ).

Wasn't as bad as that for me Andrew. Oppo 971H + VP30 SDI + Pixel SDI = Total of $630 aussie dollars inc freight (no duties payable on these items) - got Lenexpo to ship me the SDI card separately when I ordered it and the VP30 last December).

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Wasn't as bad as that for me Andrew. Oppo 971H + VP30 SDI + Pixel SDI = Total of $630 aussie dollars inc freight (no duties payable on these items) - got Lenexpo to ship me the SDI card separately when I ordered it and the VP30 last December).

OK I got the prices a bit wrong. The VP30 SDI card is $299, the Oppo 971H would be $200.. and the PixelMagic is $150.. not including freight. so where do you get it for AUS $630 ?

I do have a DV-S733 that I can be modded using the Pixel magic. So that's quite an interesting thought :blink:

I might be interested in that SDI card !

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Oh looks like I have just heated up midnight discussion...

Ok.. I will wait till JPP does the fantastic mod and tell us how u love it...

Sorry to take a 'wait and see' position guys...

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Anyone heard when the ABT102 deinterlacer card is arriving in Aust?

Hi guys ,

Yeehah . I have finally received the ABT102 card. Am I the first in OZ ?????

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OK I saw the VP30 SDI card is $399, the Oppo 971H would be $200.. and the PixelMagic is $150.. not including freight. so where do you get it for AUS $630 ?

OK, let's go through it. VP30 SDI USD100 + USD9 freight, Oppo 971H USD199 + USD56 freight. Pixel Magic SDI USD150 + USD18 freight. Total = USD523. This comes to AUD709 total at 75c/USD1. You're right, I was AUD79 short.

Now, that's the numbers. But, will it all be worth it? That's the big AUD340 question (landed price of 970H at USD199 + USD56 freight).

For me, as I already have the 971H and the VP30 SDI card, it was worth a gamble getting the Pixel magic card for AUD224 that's less than the 970H by some AUD110 in round numbers. And, as I mentioned, I don't have an HDCP equiped display, so I can't have an "unmodded" 970H.

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Hi guys ,

Yeehah . I have finally received the ABT102 card. Am I the first in OZ ?????

I order mine almost 1 and 1/2 weeks ago, I am upgrading HD+ and still waiting for vp30 with ABT102 card.

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Hi guys ,

Yeehah . I have finally received the ABT102 card. Am I the first in OZ ?????

Was wondering when you'd get yours. Now, who's gonna be the first to get it going?

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OK, let's go through it. VP30 SDI USD100 + USD9 freight, Oppo 971H USD199 + USD56 freight. Pixel Magic SDI USD150 + USD18 freight. Total = USD523. This comes to AUD709 total at 75c/USD1. You're right, I was AUD79 short.

For me, as I already have the 971H and the VP30 SDI card, it was worth a gamble getting the Pixel magic card for AUD224, that less than the 970H. And, as I mentioned, I don't have an HDCP equiped display, so I can't have an "unmodded" 970H.

VP30 SDI for $100 USD ? Because you bought a VP30 at the same time ?

We'll see what the US mob say about the 970H. In the meantime I'll stick with analog component 480i/576i into my VP30.

Just more money to throw away..

Next job: Custom SCART to RGB BNC Belden 1694A cable for the Topfield.

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VP30 SDI for $100 USD ? Because you bought a VP30 at the same time ?

We'll see what the US mob say about the 970H. In the meantime I'll stick with analog component 480i/576i into my VP30.

Just more money to throw away..

Next job: Custom SCART to RGB BNC Belden 1694A cable for the Topfield.

Yep for your assumption re VP30 at the same time.

You'll need a RGBs cable to connect the Toppy to the VP30. Alternatively, use RGB and connect the Video Out of the Toppy into the Sync IN on the VP30. Video signal always carries H and V sync signal. The Video RCA on the Toppy is always active. Fantastic picture through the VP30, particularly if you can NR and FR your display. Sorry if you already know all of this.

I've found the PQ out of the 971H going through the VP30 to be better out of DVI at 576p than component at 576i. Now that I will have the ABT102 shortly, I can use the VP30 for improved de-interlacing over the Oppo's Faroudja chipset - hence SDI push.

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Secrets have put up their impressions of the new ABT card for the VP30.

Sounds excellent. If they can achieve this same level of performance with HD processing, it will be unbeatable.

I recently had the chance to benchmark the DVDO iScan VP30 and commended it on its performance and feature standpoint. The VP30 added a few new features to the previous iScan line, including 10 bit proprietary scaling, HDMI switching, and some new tweaks to further improve the overall experience. I personally thought this would be the last thing I saw from DVDO until their follow-up unit came out (except firmware updates of course!). Little did I know that the folks at Anchor Bay Technologies (ABT) were working on their own proprietary de-interlacing solution to replace the already well received Silicon Image SIL504 that has been the core of the DVDO line for quite some time. This new solution is for SD material only, but the folks at DVDO are almost done with their HD de-interlacing solution that they plan on premiering later this year in a new video processor. The SD de-interlacing card is available as an optional upgrade to existing VP30 owners or can be added to any new orders. The upgrade comes in the form of a daughterboard that attaches to the main video board inside.

Since I already had a VP30 running in my system, DVDO just sent me out the new daughterboard and directions on how to install it. Installation is extremely easy and doesn’t require much more than a screwdriver to open up the VP30. The board comes with two standoffs that attach to pre-existing holes in the main board, as well as a connector that snaps into a socket on the board. Installation is similar to the optional SDI board that can be ordered for the iScan HD or VP30.

Once installed, the processor starts using this new board for all of its SD de-interlacing duties, and the results are superb. The SIL504 previously used is already an excellent de-interlacer, but it is a design that has been around almost as long as DVD. With new de-interlacing solutions upping the ante in cadence detection and diagonal line processing, the DVDO line was due for an upgrade. This new de-inerlacer takes the DVDO to a higher level of performance and easily matches or exceeds the performance of any video processing solution I’ve seen yet for SD material.

This product brings up some new issues though. The Benchmark has always been a very intensive set of tests for SD video processing, and even now the majority of video processing solutions still have trouble with it. However, with the recent introduction of video processing solutions like the new ABT chip, the bar has been raised. Processing that we never really considered once is now achievable, and with that, the testing needs to change. We at Secrets will be adding new tests to the Benchmark over the next few months that will push the limits of video processors and incorporate the capabilities of the high-performance units out there such as the ABT design. Look for a complete revamp by years end!

Running the ABT through our de-interlacing tests almost seemed pointless after awhile. The previous SIL504 had no issues, so I couldn’t imagine the ABT solution having any either. This was exactly the case. The chip performed flawlessly in every test, including 2-2. So instead of just leaving it at that, I decided to venture on to some harder test material. This included the Silicon Optix HQV Benchmark DVD and its mixed cadences tests and diagonal line torture tests. I also took a look at ABT’s own Video Reference Series DVD that will be shipping very soon. Like the HQV disc, the VRS DVD includes not only test material designed to show the difference between the ABT video processing and competitors but also real world material to show you how it correlates to everyday viewing. This test disc was created by Stacey Spears and Don Munsil who were the founders of the DVD Benchmark here at Secrets! On top of that, our very own Brian Florian created many of the test patterns and graphics for the disc. I highly recommend this disc for anyone looking for great test material to put his or her DVD player or video processor through the ringer.

One of the big differences I found with the ABT board compared to the SIL504 was diagonal line processing. This is a feature that was exclusive to the Faroudja based video processing chips for a long time. Using the HQV test disc and some of the Faroudja test patterns available I was able to compare the ABT to both Faroudja and Silicon Optix’s Realta processing. The ABT did a phenomenal job in every respect, matching the DCDi processing, and actually exceeding the performance of the HQV processing. Using real world material, the three solutions performed on a very similar level. The HQV chip in my reference Denon DVD-5910 had some difficulty with some of the Faroudja test material, but the ABT did just fine. Some of the more difficult material required me to change the de-interlacing mode of the ABT chip, but the results were well worth it.

The HQV solution still performed a bit better with mixed cadences, including those commonly found in foreign animation. It would also lock onto high detail images with mixed cadences a bit faster. The ABT was better at holding the cadences though, once it locked on. This was evident using HQV’s reference DVD. The Super Speedway clip is a bit of a torture test for high frequency detail, and the HQV couldn't hold the image intact through their reoccurring loop. The ABT locked on to the material and held it through the loop. The only other chip I’ve seen that can do that is the Gennum VXP in my reference SSP, the Anthem Statement D2.

Conclusions

The ABT-102 SD de-interlacer is a welcome addition to the iScan line and continues DVDO’s reputation for delivering top of the line performance at very attractive prices. The daughterboard is being offered at a significant discount for early adopters, but will be going up in price after awhile, so if you are interested, get one now. The ABT-102 is every bit as good as any other de-interlacer I’ve seen, and exceeds most of them in diagonal line processing and mixed cadences. Congratulations to Anchor Bay Technologies and DVDO, and we hope to see more from this chip in other hardware soon!

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This new solution is for SD material only, but the folks at DVDO are almost done with their HD de-interlacing solution that they plan on premiering later this year in a new video processor.

Does this mean I need to upgrade my processor again?

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Does this mean I need to upgrade my processor again?

If you want advanced motion adaptive 1080i->1080p de-interlacing, then I’m afraid so! However this would generally only be worthwhile on large 1080p screens (that support 1080p input) that don’t already have high quality de-interlacing onboard.

The benefits with motion adaptive 1080i de-interlacing for use on a 720p/768p are still significant, but whether it’s worthwhile comes down to the individual display.

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If you want advanced motion adaptive 1080i->1080p de-interlacing, then I’m afraid so! However this would generally only be worthwhile on large 1080p screens (that support 1080p input) that don’t already have high quality de-interlacing onboard.

The benefits with motion adaptive 1080i de-interlacing for use on a 720p/768p are still significant, but whether it’s worthwhile comes down to the individual display.

So... group buy anyone? :blink:

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Yeehah . I have finally received the ABT102 card. Am I the first in OZ ?????

Well Sparky..... what's the verdict?! :blink:

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...and I'd say you probably are the first in OZ. :P

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Helios Website of the DVD player... upt to 1080p out!!

If the new oppo takes much longer, I'd be looking at this player....

Helios, with 576i/480i, out from HDMI ...... talked about at the AVS forum lately....about the same price as the oppo.... even 768p for those without external scalers is possible with this DVD player..... not bad for US$195 plus shipping..... the price of an SDI card by itself????

NEODIGITS HELIOS HVD2085 PRODUCT FEATURES

Playback format options: DVD/ SVCD/ VCD/ CD/ HDCD/ MP3/ WMA/ Photo-CD

Upscales standard DVD titles into high-definition resolution

Up to 1080p support via Component

HDMI 1080p support.

High-definition output options via Component interface in 720p, 1080i and 1080p

High-definition output options via HDMI interface in 720p, 1080i, 1080p, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024

480i/576i output options via HDMI. Ideal for using with an external scaler.

High-definition output options via VGA interface in 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024

High-definition output options via DVI (via HDMI to DVI cable) interfaces

NTSC 720p/ 1080i/ 1080p support at 60hz

PAL 720p/ 1080i/ 1080p support at 50hz

place to buy?? Helios DVD Player

Its worth further investigation.... I'll try my player out with 576i via component first and see if its 'good enough' before buying another oppo/helios/insertnamehere .....

Cheers,

Marcelo

PS: New toppy masterpiece Black with 300GB HDD in today.... loving it... 2 toppys now.... when am I going to watch anything????

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http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/sho...&deInt=0&mpeg=0

The Neodigits 2805 has been tested. There is a chart that compares it to the Helios,

but assuming they have the same MPEG decoding chip, then it's just a different firmware with the

same fundamental issues.

It looks promising but there are issues (as with many DVD players) that make it unsuitable as a VP30 DVD transport.

I think the Oppo 971 w/SDI is a pretty nice looking "today" setup, albeit a fairly costly outlay.

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I saw one of the newer Helios units in Wicked Digital the other day:

http://www.neodigits.com/new/body/products/Xline/diagram.asp

From what I could make out it was a sales rep or someone showing them the unit, and testing it out. I had a quick look at it and the thing looked awesome. It looked to me to be a very expensive unit in terms of build quality etc.

I asked them if they were getting them in and they said they would be but were not able to tell me when....oh well, another wait!

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