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Hi all, nice to meet everybody on this forum, after my initial period of hold back on this forum I have decided to make my first post and needless to say I need as many suggestions and opinions as possible from you fine people :blink:

To begin my enquires I would like to possibly explain my situation and clarify it as simple as it should. now I have begin looking around for an Hitachi display for sometime now and has finally decided to go with the 42inch 7800series, incidentally I went down to my local JB and begin my hunt for the display, to my disappiontment I was adviced from the JB sales rep that this model was no longer available due to an replacement (the 8800 series) and he has left me with his name and detail to come back in roughly a fornight time (NOV10-15th) to check out the newer models of Hitachi plasma. namely the 8800 series. so far I have only obtained some relative infomations in regards to the 8800 from the HONG KONG and SINGAPORE Hitachi websites (I must admit though, the newer 8800 does indeed impress me with its sexy aesthetic appearance and the DUAL HDMI future is also looking very promising), however I wouldnt mind at all seen one in real life.

My question is

1. Is it definitely worthwhile to hold back and wait for the newer version?

2. has anyone seen it in real life? if so, then how good does it compare with its predecessors?

3. Is there somewhere I can get a detailed brochure or leaflets on the 8800 series? and is there any other electronical stores (apart from Jb) who has the 8800 on display?

so any suggestions and opinion in regards to the Hitachi plasma's would be much appreciated :P:P:P

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Hi all, nice to meet  everybody on this forum, after my initial period of hold back on this forum I have decided to make my first post and needless to say I need as many suggestions and opinions as possible from you fine people  :blink:

To begin my enquires I would like to possibly explain my situation and clarify it as simple as it should. now I have begin looking around for an Hitachi display for sometime now and has finally decided to go with the 42inch 7800series, incidentally I went down to my local JB and begin my hunt for the display,  to my disappiontment I was adviced from the JB sales rep that this model was no longer available due to an replacement (the 8800 series) and he has left me with his name and detail to come back in roughly a fornight time (NOV10-15th) to check out the newer models of Hitachi plasma. namely the 8800 series. so far I have only obtained some relative infomations in regards to the 8800 from the HONG KONG and SINGAPORE Hitachi websites  (I must admit though, the newer 8800 does indeed impress me with its sexy aesthetic appearance and the DUAL HDMI future is also looking very promising), however I wouldnt mind at all seen one in real life.

My question is

1. Is it definitely worthwhile to hold back and wait for the newer version?

2. has anyone seen it in real life? if so, then how good does it compare with its predecessors?

3.  Is there somewhere I can get a detailed brochure or leaflets on the 8800 series? and is there any other electronical stores (apart from Jb) who has the 8800 on display?

so any suggestions and opinion in regards to the Hitachi plasma's would be much appreciated  :P  :P  :P

it certainly helps if you can wait and if in no rush.

hard for anyone to answer this given it haven't even been released.

theres some great contenders in this end of the market in the pana, pio and fuji if your budget can be stretched.

I've always been impressed with the hitachi alis panels capability with 1080i true HD and think for that its jaw dropping and second to none.

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it certainly helps if you can wait and if in no rush.

hard for anyone to answer this given it haven't even been released.

theres some great contenders in this end of the market in the pana, pio and fuji if your budget can be stretched.

I've always been impressed with the hitachi alis panels capability with 1080i true HD and think for that its jaw dropping and second to none.

yeah this is another reason why I voted for the Hitachi over other manufacturers, the ALIS panel certainly deserves a prise when it comes down to reproducing vivid colour and crisp images unlike conventional plasmas, the ALIS was meant to extend the average lifespan of the panel by 30000hr? is that right

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yeah this is another reason why I voted for the Hitachi over other manufacturers, the ALIS panel certainly deserves a prise when it comes down to reproducing vivid colour and crisp images unlike conventional plasmas, the ALIS was meant to extend the average lifespan of the panel by 30000hr? is that right

most panels now have a 60,000 hr half life

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I have seen the pricing and it looks very good.

Below are the two new models:

Plasma Display with inbuilt twin tuners & detachable speakers & motorised swivel stand

42PD6000TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition

42PD8800TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition

There is also a 55" being released

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I have seen the pricing and it looks very good. 

Below are the two new models:

Plasma Display with inbuilt twin tuners & detachable speakers & motorised swivel stand

42PD6000TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition             

42PD8800TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition       

There is also a 55" being released

The improvements over the 7800TA are;

Brightness 1400

Sound 10 speakers

2 HDMI inputs

USB/SD card slots

The feedback so far that I have managed to get is that the colours on the Hitachi 8800ta are more vivid than the PIO and the Pana.

I believe the speakers arent detachable and the size of the unit length is a tad smaller than 7800ta.

I was waiting on the 7800ta to be delivered and was advised to hold off for the 8800ta.

Price wise it wont be too far away from the pana 500A so I have been told.

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I dont know why anybody would buy a 1024x1024 resolution, you have got to be nuts.

The resolution sounds counterintuitive, but I've read some interesting reasons on this forum about why this ALiS panel works. The Fujitsu 42 inch HD also uses the same panel. More importantly, when you see them side by side at stores, you can always pick the Fujitsu out as the PQ is stunning. Had it not been for the price, I would've gone with that.

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From my IT wholesalers site the RRP for the panels mentioned above are:

42PD8800TAKIT 42" (106cm) Plasma Television - $6,048.90

42PD6000TAKIT 42" (106cm) Plasma Television - $4,948.90

EDIT: I know these aren't street prices, just what the listted RRP is.

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From my IT wholesalers site the RRP for the panels mentioned above are:

 

42PD8800TAKIT 42" (106cm) Plasma Television - $6,048.90

42PD6000TAKIT 42" (106cm) Plasma Television - $4,948.90

EDIT:  I know these aren't street prices, just what the listted RRP is.

Yes the RRP are way off the mark.

Im getting the 8800TA for close to $4000.

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Some interesting news... I run an IT company and pricing for the hitachis have just popped up on the suppliers site.

Im not going to give away cost price of the goods however i think anyone who is after these will be doing VERY well to buy these under 4500...

Ivalice - at 4700 you should be no problems getting that from places like JB.

Of course, listed as 0 stock and availability in 11 days, however take that with a grain of salt.

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Some interesting news... I run an IT company and pricing for the hitachis have just popped up on the suppliers site.

Im not going to give away cost price of the goods however i think anyone who is after these will be doing VERY well to buy these under 4500...

Ivalice - at 4700 you should be no problems getting that from places like JB.

Of course, listed as 0 stock and availability in 11 days, however take that with a grain of salt.

Hey bigblue thanks for the new info in relations to the newer Hitachi Plasmas.

I got my self a quote from JB, they claim the RRP for the Hitachi 8800 is at $5199, however those Sales guys insisted that they were well prepared to make the prices under $5k for me, would you think by any chance I would be getting it for $4.5k? (me and a friend both want one each plus other miscellaneous accessories e.g HD STB, CABLES, HDMI DVD)

I would be rather pleased and content if they can offer this price :blink:

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Hi all, nice to meet  everybody on this forum, after my initial period of hold back on this forum I have decided to make my first post and needless to say I need as many suggestions and opinions as possible from you fine people  :blink:

To begin my enquires I would like to possibly explain my situation and clarify it as simple as it should. now I have begin looking around for an Hitachi display for sometime now and has finally decided to go with the 42inch 7800series, incidentally I went down to my local JB and begin my hunt for the display,  to my disappiontment I was adviced from the JB sales rep that this model was no longer available due to an replacement (the 8800 series) and he has left me with his name and detail to come back in roughly a fornight time (NOV10-15th) to check out the newer models of Hitachi plasma. namely the 8800 series. so far I have only obtained some relative infomations in regards to the 8800 from the HONG KONG and SINGAPORE Hitachi websites  (I must admit though, the newer 8800 does indeed impress me with its sexy aesthetic appearance and the DUAL HDMI future is also looking very promising), however I wouldnt mind at all seen one in real life.

My question is

1. Is it definitely worthwhile to hold back and wait for the newer version?

Depends if the new features are worth the price differential.

2. has anyone seen it in real life? if so, then how good does it compare with its predecessors?

3.  Is there somewhere I can get a detailed brochure or leaflets on the 8800 series? and is there any other electronical stores (apart from Jb) who has the 8800 on display?

so any suggestions and opinion in regards to the Hitachi plasma's would be much appreciated  :P  :P  :P

What price were you quoted for the 2 units ?

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I have seen the pricing and it looks very good. 

Below are the two new models:

Plasma Display with inbuilt twin tuners & detachable speakers & motorised swivel stand

42PD6000TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition             

42PD8800TAKIT 42" (1024x1024) - High Definition       

There is also a 55" being released

OK what is the difference between those two models,and WHY two new models?

What are the respective prices? :blink:

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OK what is the difference between those two models,and WHY two new models?

What are the respective prices? :blink:

the 6000 is hitachi's price leader. not japanese made and probably not even a hitachi glass I'd say.

I wasn't impressed by it.

the 8800 I'd say would follow in the footsteps of the 7800 and be a whole different thing

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Besides I dont know why anybody would buy a 1024x1024 resolution, you have got to be nuts.

Why? In Australia there is no commonly available plasma which has a "native" HD resolution of 1920x1080 pixels (for 1080 i/p playback). Many HD panels in Australia have 768 vertical lines whcih results in the plasma having to downsample. For 720p the image needs to be upscaled. See CNet's look at native HD dispays.

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Why?  In Australia there is no commonly available plasma which has a "native" HD resolution of 1920x1080 pixels (for 1080 i/p playback).  Many HD panels in Australia have 768 vertical lines whcih results in the plasma having to downsample.  For 720p the image needs to be upscaled.  See CNet's look at native HD dispays.

any suggestions in respect to the DUAL HDMI interface which the newer Hitachi would adopt? by far I've only seen most plasmas with a maximum of one HDMI output, hence the necessity with two HDMI inputs for us, as the general consumer is always doubting (at least for now). T

The way I see it, is that it could be a very convenient solution in the future for Playstation 3 ( as the ps3 is supposely to have dual HDMI outputs as well) :blink: and could anyone please tell me how better is the connection from Component to HDMI?

would we be able to see a very apparent enhancement over the traditional connections (such S-Video, AV, etc) from HDMI connections? :P:P:P

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Assuming they use the same glass panels  ,the improved quality must come from the superior internal electronics ?  :blink:

I think the 8800 must have superior glass to the 7800 since it has claimed better picture qualities.

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Hey bigblue thanks for the new info in relations to the newer Hitachi Plasmas.

I got my self a quote from JB, they claim the RRP for the Hitachi 8800 is at $5199, however those Sales guys insisted that they were well prepared to make the prices under $5k for me, would you think by any chance I would be getting it for $4.5k? (me and a friend both want one each plus other miscellaneous accessories e.g HD STB, CABLES, HDMI DVD)

I would be rather pleased and content if they can offer this price  :blink:

I would think that If you and a mate are buying one and also spending up on HD Boxes and cables, screw em harder than $4700, a lot harder.

After all they will make profits on the cables and other stuff you buy.

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I was in a Hi Fi shop a few days ago and the sales guy pointed me towards a Hitachi SD panel.

Told me it was " HD Ready" I knew he wasn't being totally honest with me.

But it did get me thinking about the hitachi panels.

After reading about the Alis panel it seems that they are very good but I have 1 misgiving.

The 1024 X 1024 screen resolution ? is this an advantage or not ?

Cheers

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I was in a Hi Fi shop a few days ago and the sales guy pointed me towards a Hitachi SD panel.

Told me it was " HD Ready"  I knew he wasn't being totally honest with me.

But it did get me thinking about the hitachi panels.

After reading about the Alis panel it seems that they are very good but I have 1 misgiving.

The 1024 X 1024  screen resolution ?  is this an advantage or not ?

Cheers

I personally think the 1024 vertical lines the hitachi does the best I've seen with true 1080i material eg the original loop or 'the panel' or bert on ch10

And same goes with SD I've seen plenty of drool worthy pics on my tv and posted many times on jsut how gorgeous it looks.

you need to check out with your own eyes though compare for your self. I personally would not be jsut hung up on the technology side often its the implementation of the technology that determines what makes it a good panel or not. I've seen poor very poor implemetations of alis eg in the sony and philips models of old jsut as I've seen some very poor non alis panels.

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I personally think the 1024 vertical lines the hitachi does the best I've seen with true 1080i material eg the original loop or 'the panel' or bert on ch10

And same goes with SD I've seen plenty of drool worthy pics on my tv and posted many times on jsut how gorgeous it looks.

you need to check out with your own eyes though compare for your self. I personally would not be jsut hung up on the technology side often its the implementation of the technology that determines what makes it a good panel or not. I've seen poor very poor implemetations of alis eg in the sony and philips models of old jsut as I've seen some very poor non alis panels.

Thanks for your Reply.

OK as soon as I find a 8800 in store I will take the Leader of the opposition with me and see what she thinks ..

Will be a choice between it and a Pana I am sure... Once I feel comfortable about the scaling.

Cheers

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$4000 :blink:  :P  :P

Please Teach me how. IMHO i think i'll be lucky if i can pull it off from JB for $4700

Its part of a deal I struck when I had the 7800ta ordered and there was a 6 week delay and the guy said I can have the 8800ta for the same price because of the inconvenience.

Despite my personal circumstances lets compare the 2 other models that are in competition with the 8800TA, the PIO and the Pana with regards to price and PQ.

The PIO comes in around $5000 with 5 years warranty and Pio's special service.

The Pana is anywhere between $3700 and $3900 which some are getting 4 years extended warranty.

The 7800TA was going for less than $4000 and the 8800TA doesnt warrant a $700 price increase given its small improvements.

The 6000TA is now going for $3200 having been on the market for 2 months starting at $4000 a price drop of $800.

Hitachi will need to compete hard on price if they want these sets to sell.

IMHO $4700 for the 8800TA aint worth it.

Incidently from what I have heard there are two models on the 8800ta motorised swivel and non motorised swivel.

Im unsure whether those options will be available here though.

The guy who I have dealt with was the best price I could find with Hitachi when I was looking at the 7800TA

I was chastised by one forumer "way back" for claiming a price of $4250 from my retailer when other retailers were at $4500.

When the 8800TA's arrive I will find out the price he is roughly quoting and those interested can PM me for details.

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Its part of a deal I struck when I had the 7800ta ordered and there was a 6 week delay and the guy said I can have the 8800ta for the same price because of the inconvenience.

Despite my personal circumstances lets compare the 2 other models that are in competition with the 8800TA, the PIO and the Pana with regards to price and PQ.

The PIO comes in around $5000 with 5 years warranty and Pio's special service.

The Pana is anywhere between $3700 and $3900 which some are getting 4 years extended warranty.

The 7800TA  was going for less than $4000 and the 8800TA doesnt warrant a $700 price increase given its small improvements.

The 6000TA is now going for $3200 having been on the market for 2 months starting at $4000 a price drop of $800.

Hitachi will need to compete hard on price if they want these sets to sell.

IMHO $4700 for the 8800TA aint worth it.

Incidently from what I have heard there are two models on the 8800ta  motorised swivel and non motorised swivel.

Im unsure whether those options will be available here though.

The guy who I have dealt with was the best price I could find with Hitachi when I was looking at the 7800TA

I was chastised by one forumer "way back" for claiming a price of $4250 from my retailer when other retailers were at $4500.

When the 8800TA's arrive I will find out the price he is roughly quoting and those interested can PM me for details.

theyre some very awesome prices you qouting there. I must say you guys must be quite the deal makers or ball breakers one or the other to pull these kind of bargains !

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theyre some very awesome prices you qouting there. I must say you guys must be quite the deal makers or ball breakers one or the other to pull these kind of bargains !

Haha.

It just goes to show how much FAT the retailers build in.

Last week's liftout TV guide in the SMH had an article on Plasma's.

They had the Pana 500A rrp $4999. The reviewer said he had seen them going for $4795. Obviously he isnt a forumer and is way off the mark however I wonder how many read this and paid close to $4795..Plenty I would say.

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Its part of a deal I struck when I had the 7800ta ordered and there was a 6 week delay and the guy said I can have the 8800ta for the same price because of the inconvenience.

Despite my personal circumstances lets compare the 2 other models that are in competition with the 8800TA, the PIO and the Pana with regards to price and PQ.

The PIO comes in around $5000 with 5 years warranty and Pio's special service.

The Pana is anywhere between $3700 and $3900 which some are getting 4 years extended warranty.

The 7800TA  was going for less than $4000 and the 8800TA doesnt warrant a $700 price increase given its small improvements.

The 6000TA is now going for $3200 having been on the market for 2 months starting at $4000 a price drop of $800.

Hitachi will need to compete hard on price if they want these sets to sell.

IMHO $4700 for the 8800TA aint worth it.

Incidently from what I have heard there are two models on the 8800ta  motorised swivel and non motorised swivel.

Im unsure whether those options will be available here though.

The guy who I have dealt with was the best price I could find with Hitachi when I was looking at the 7800TA

I was chastised by one forumer "way back" for claiming a price of $4250 from my retailer when other retailers were at $4500.

When the 8800TA's arrive I will find out the price he is roughly quoting and those interested can PM me for details.

hehehe good work lasty, screw them harder on price even more in the future :blink: jk

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Why not, who cares if they go bust and are not around to provide any after sales service.

Are you talking about the Manufacturer or the retail store?

If its the latter, customer service is totally disgusting on a global scale in the majority of products sold.

If they have no respect for me I have none for them. :blink:

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I got a quote from www.bankstownhifi.com.au

Hitachi 42PD6000TA - $3,150 !

Good price...just installed mine cost $3,499 with bonus 4 year warranty (total 5 years)

Only quirk is the picture mode switches back to PANORAMIC each time you turn on....no good if running 16:9 input off STB...have to manually change pic mode to FULL by pressing button 5 times....Thank goodness for macro on MX500.

Other quirk is that when the broadcast changes from a scene to bright scene like a newreader, you can see the unit adjusting the brightness/contrast down in segments....probably get used to it.

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Why not, who cares if they go bust and are not around to provide any after sales service.

They won't sell you anything if they arn't going to make a profit out of it.

Another point is if I get a good deal on something from a retailer I allways recomend them to others and buy other stuff from them.

I bought a new car 8 weeks ago and was very happy with the deal and " buying experiance".

As a result I took my brother in law to same dealer last friday and helped him negotiate a very good deal on a new car for himself. I got 4 grand + new wheels and tints chucked in after the dealer said he couldn't go any lower.

As a result my 2 cars and brother in laws cars will be getting their services at same dealer.

With the tv purchase I will do the same thing. For example say the average price for the pana 500a seems to be around $3800 on this forum then thats what I will expect to pay

I don't need the world' best deal. If the dealer is making around 10% on a deal then I wouldn't feel guilty about closing a purchase like that.

Having said that wife makes huge profits on crappy stuff she buys and sells on Ebay ... best so far is sale price of nearly 200 times what she paid for an item !!!!

cheers

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Thanks for your Reply.

OK as soon as I find a 8800 in store I will take the Leader of the opposition with me and see what she thinks ..

Will be a choice between it and a Pana I am sure... Once I feel comfortable about the scaling.

Cheers

Here is the link to a review of the Hitachi 42PD8800TA.

http://www.cnet.com.au/hometheatre/tvs/0,3...40057945,00.htm

Seems like the reviewer is impressed with contrast and colours but criticises sharpness and analog tuner

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