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Sucks don't it? Why bother with FTA and 5.1? If I want decent sound I will watch a DVD. FTA stations don't want to properly entertain us so I won't watch their ads. :blink:

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Sucks don't it? Why bother with FTA and 5.1? If I want decent sound I will watch a DVD. FTA stations don't want to properly entertain us so I won't watch their ads. :blink:

On the subject of dolby 5.1 how do you know if its being broadcast in 5.1.Is there a list or guide available. I am running sd set top, pioneer vsx d514 amp.Paul

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Look at 10's bit "premiere" (Starwars Ep2), 2.0 bahaha. Given nine showed even the "old" (ie original) starwars films in 5.1 i would say they would have had 5.1 if screened on 9.

Even TV shows are in 5.1, Alias for eg from the get go has been 5.1, Battlestar Galactica is another, no doubt theres more. Mclouds thingys is 5.1, i wonder if say Alias and BSG were on 9 if we'd see 5.1 hmmmmmm

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it's probably because hd tapes with a 5.1 track cost heaps more than one with dolby surround or dolby 2.0

A HD program may cost a certain amount, but to add 5.1 the cost would double. Untill Dolby E with 5.1 on the tape becomes the norm, it won't change much. I think it will happen, but not for about 2-3 years. Dolby Surround on the other hand is beocming comon.

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Lucky its "included" with DVD's then, for the past ummm 8 years? or whatever :blink: hehe.

It is weird though, as u say 5.1 on HD tapes is not the "norm"/common yet its not like they 5.1 wasnt' about? Had not they heard of DVD's or even LD's?

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Lucky its "included" with DVD's then, for the past ummm 8 years? or whatever :blink: hehe.  

It is weird though, as u say 5.1 on HD tapes is not the "norm"/common yet its not like they 5.1 wasnt' about?  Had not they heard of DVD's or even LD's?

Dear spoonie, its because DVD mastering get the 5.1 from a DVD-ROM or even a file via ethernet. That audio is uncompressed and to add 5.1 to a tape you have to compress the 5.1 tracks down to just over 900Mbits per sec (Dolby E). As standard when the vision is mastered the audio is done at the same time (stereo surround), but the 5.1 audio is done later or earlier, not at the same time. Its impractical to do so.

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spoonie :blink: hehe

fair enuf, sometimes the 'way' things are done for us 'laymen' seem odd.

OK, so they create a master tape with the video, and the 2ch audio "they have", why not then subsequent masters created with 5.1?

Another option would be 5.1 as a separate feed/source (on a CD/DVD/whatver) but obviously u'd need the gear to sync up etc (ie like in the theatres). They could have the 'coffee boy' run down the local video store and fetch a DVD :P bhaha hehe

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spoonie :blink: hehe

fair enuf, sometimes the 'way' things are done for us 'laymen' seem odd.

OK, so they create a master tape with the video, and the 2ch audio "they have", why not then subsequent masters created with 5.1?

Another option would be 5.1 as a separate feed/source (on a CD/DVD/whatver) but obviously u'd need the gear to sync up etc (ie like in the theatres).  They could have the 'coffee boy' run down the local video store and fetch a DVD :P bhaha hehe

Nine do in fact get the 5.1 on a separate media and 'restripe' thier HD copy of a movie. Stop suggesting getting the 'coffee boy to run done', let them get a 'coffee boy' and the next thing they will just get a dozen 'coffee boys' to do everthing.

Actually getting a DVD may work but I doubt it. Getting the AC3 audio back to Dolby E and in sync may be impossible. We could record the AC3 onto the HD tape but again keeping it in sync would be a problem and it would mean a re-design of the signal pathway and ALL 5.1 audio would have to supplied the same.

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aggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh its all to hard, i just want to watch and listen :blink:

coffee boy where my OAR movie with 5.1..........what u though the tape was a biscuit........ u clown! :P

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aggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh its all to hard, i just want to watch and listen :blink:

coffee boy where my OAR movie with 5.1..........what u though the tape was a biscuit........ u clown! :P

Those bloody coffee boys, always screwing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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anyone notice two more movies have been added?

Collateral Damage and Spider-Man (Adelaide)

though both don't have a date yet

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Look at 10's bit "premiere" (Starwars Ep2), 2.0 bahaha.  Given nine showed even the "old" (ie original) starwars films in 5.1 i would say they would have had 5.1 if screened on 9.

Even TV shows are in 5.1, Alias for eg from the get go has been 5.1, Battlestar Galactica is another, no doubt theres more.  Mclouds thingys is 5.1, i wonder if say Alias and BSG were on 9 if we'd see 5.1 hmmmmmm

I didn't think 10 did anything in 5.1? We don't get it in Brisbane! Are you sure you arn't getting it in Dolby Stereo rather than Dolby 5.1?

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oops, u miss understood, im saying that we DON'T, the shows i listed are available in 5.1 just not here :blink:

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:P Good - that means I havent got my set-up wrong.

:blink: Bad - it is poor they don't transmit more isn't it. As I have a full surround sound set-up, I still get more enjoyment out of a DVD than TV. I've had my STB/Plasma for about 3 months and have only seen Spiderman & a Starwars movie in 5.1. They were great, but we need more!

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Collateral Damage is 5.1 and on this Sunday (22/5/05) on NINE HD.

Craig.

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Collateral Damage is 5.1 and on this Sunday (22/5/05) on NINE HD.

Craig.

Good job Nine.

Last time it was on it was only Dolby Surround but they've gone to the trouble to get a 5.1 soundtrack.

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The once a month we get a 5.1 transmission - its pretty impressive! There is a minimum HD content the television channels must do per year, they should do the same for 5.1 transmission!

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Well here at least, Nein screwed up the broadcast (or my STB was seriously on the fritz) ... 5.1 didn't kick in for God knows how long! (And I won't even mention the state of the video!) However, when the 5.1 did get it together ... you certainly notice the difference! :blink:

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Man I'd love to watch the news in 5.1!!

News presenter in front center, sports/finance presenter to the right of the screen, weather girl to the left.....and suddenly you hear this fart from the rear right speaker and a quiet laugh and some loud gasps for air. All this while the news presenter tries to keep a straight face!!!

This won't happen for a while until we can get close to realtime AC3 5.1 encoding and multiplexing.

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So few people can receive the dolby digital signal, the stations probably dont see much worth in obtaining the material at extra cost. If they were to transmitt 5.1 on SD as well as HD that would cause a significant jump in viewers capable of receiving the signal and the stations might make more of an effort. Now I know a number of HD owners will have something to say about DD on SD, but otherwise we have to wait until more people take up HD which could take a number of years, especially when only about 20% of Digital receivers are HD.

(and for the record I would like to see an increase in HD bandwidth - get rid of those useless EPG's - and take the bandwidth for DD for SD from the SD stream not the HD one - I honestly dont think 448kbps would make a big difference to a 6mbps SD video stream)

Out of curiosity I have started a poll to get an indication of both how many people have HD and 5.1, and how many people have SD TV and could receive 5.1.

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