CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anyone willling to give SamyGo a GO? Anyway, worth a look Cheers I'm adventurous but I do draw a line in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Dennis Thomsen has updated his blog with the new results of both 2004 and 3000 series FW updates:http://dennisthomsen.dk/2010/11/samsung-pl...valdeuc-2004-0/ He reports no improvements to Black levels on 50hz/Cinema Smooth Well that is some revelation. I'm must get my eyes checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasadena Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Well that is some revelation. I'm must get my eyes checked Maybe it depends on the batch off the processing line. Maybe some batches, for whatever reason, respond better or worse than other batches so maybe what you see is better because your screen is from a different batch than what Dennis has received. You would think all things being equal, results shouldn't change. Edited November 3, 2010 by pasadena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) The 3001.1 you posted about was for the B series LCD. Looks like the SamyGo stuff is for older sets too. Interesting find though (EDIT: And was released in March, before our sets were available.) Edited November 3, 2010 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 A few forums members have tried SamyGo, heck im pretty sure even Owen uses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 A few forums members have tried SamyGo, heck im pretty sure even Owen uses it. I very much doubt it Dave. Especially the way he responded when I used the Danish FW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Maybe it depends on the batch off the processing line. Maybe some batches, for whatever reason, respond better or worse than other batches so maybe what you see is better because your screen is from a different batch than what Dennis has received. You would think all things being equal, results shouldn't change. Yes that sounds very logical. (May cancel my appointment with the Optometrist ) Oh yeah the equiv of our model in the US is the PS 63C8000. However that has hardware in it for Calib Day and Night so not sure I will take the plunge. Then again we may already have this hardware and need fw to activate. I would advise even myself to not upload any US FW. I was confident with the Danish as I had somewhere with a lot of Tech nouse check out their model and ours and he said it will be fine. I may upload current fw ....only because it prevents you doing what I am very tempted to do and I don't trust my self Edited November 3, 2010 by CC Rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) I very much doubt it Dave. Especially the way he responded when I used the Danish FW. http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...t&p=1571844 Case of do as I say... Not as I do... And loose? Edit: Actually, when I looked, he wan't responding to you CC, but he does say "If you did kill your TV buy using the wrong firmware I would not expect Samsung to cover the repair under warranty as its deliberate misuse." so... Edited November 3, 2010 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figjam Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 the equiv of our model in the US is the PS 63C8000. I thought the US model was PN63C8000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) I thought the US model was PN63C8000? You're right! rebooking that Optometrist appointment Edited November 3, 2010 by CC Rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtop...t&p=1571844Case of do as I say... Not as I do... And loose? Edit: Actually, when I looked, he wan't responding to you CC, but he does say "If you did kill your TV buy using the wrong firmware I would not expect Samsung to cover the repair under warranty as its deliberate misuse." so... Hmm I think will give him the benefit of the doubt on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffski Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Lets quit with the witch hunt and focus the thread on the TV please. btw for the price (under 3.3k incl 5yr ew + delivery) I do love the Sammy. It's too small now. Edited November 3, 2010 by Geoffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Lets quit with the witch hunt and focus the thread on the TV please.btw for the price (under 3.3k incl 5yr ew + delivery) I do love the Sammy. It's too small now. There is no witchhunt here Geoff just friendly banter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Updated to fw3001.1 this afternoon. They've definately made a slight change to overall brightness. It appears to have been lowered, as you have to use a slightly higher value than before. Possibly a minor alteration to gamma as well. (We need someone with calibration software to do some measurements). As noted, you will lose your current settings & you'll need to do a re-scan. Black level still slightly higher with Cinema Smooth on & 50hz material. I doubt fw will ever change that, but it's not an issue in my books. It's still very good either way. Andys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Updated to fw3001.1 this afternoon. They've definately made a slight change to overall brightness. It appears to have been lowered, as you have to use a slightly higher value than before. Possibly a minor alteration to gamma as well. (We need someone with calibration software to do some measurements). As noted, you will lose your current settings & you'll need to do a re-scan. Black level still slightly higher with Cinema Smooth on & 50hz material. I doubt fw will ever change that, but it's not an issue in my books. It's still very good either way.Andys. Reference level goodness according to the learned Dennis Thomsen so my good cyberspace friend you noticed a darker picture. I also updated to fw 3001 and I doubt I will precluded from my Danish FW site in the futre despite what that hackers website warned people against. I know someone who installed 3001 then the 3001.3 Danish FW without issues but I will probably will restrain myself from the temptation to upload the next Dannish fw release given what Owen advised below. I suppose I have been lucky but luck does run out. Also our fw 3001.1 is 31mb larger than Danish version. That is a lot of mb hence code. Just wondering what it is doing. Edited November 3, 2010 by CC Rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) People often see what they want to see (placebo effect), without complete recalibration and reliable measurements before and after firmware updates its not really possible to make any meaningful judgements. Judging black level by eye is very unreliable even for the very experienced, one dark shade of gray looks much like another without direct comparison, that's why I don't get too worked up over minor differences in black level between TV's. Unless the difference is stark its not worth worrying about. Updating firmware without knowing exactingly what will be achieved (proven) and the negative side effects if any is not advisable IMHO. I do use a SamyGo utility on my 2009 Samsung as it corrects the aspect ratio bug in the media player that otherwise makes the media player unusable for 1440x1080 content from my video camera. The TV is otherwise not broken and does not need fixing, just like my 4 year old Sony which has also never had a firmware update. The issues I do have with my Samsung are not likely to ever be addressed by a firmware update and I don't expect them to ever be. Many of the SamyGo tools (including the one I use) are not firmware hacks but firmware patches that are applied to a booted system. When the TV is powered down at the power point (cold booted) all alterations are lost and the TV reverts to its as delivered condition. Firmware updates for my Sammy LCD have done nothing to improve picture quality but have removed the ability to use SamyGo tools and I believe the ability to revert to previous firmware versions, therefore I will not be upgrading without VERY good reason and I suspect that will never happen as is the case with my Sony. My advise is don't be quick to update the firmware on your TV or any other device, only do so when the benefits or other wise are well understood, and that may take some months. Edited November 3, 2010 by Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) My advise is don't be quick to update the firmware on your TV or any other device, only do so when the benefits or other wise are well understood, and that may take some months. Good advice Edited November 4, 2010 by CC Rider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barny1503559856 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 hi all finally found my game option in menus but mine is greyed out i installed latest firmware too last night so any ideas would be greatly appreaciated so i can see how my ps3 looks with game settings cheers barny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCRider Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 hi all finally found my game option in menus but mine is greyed out i installed latest firmware too last night so any ideas would be greatly appreaciated so i can see how my ps3 looks with game settings cheers barny Change input from TV to HDMI etc and it should stop being grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTPCFreak Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Haven't installed the firmware yet, but I will use the exact same scene (from The Dark Knight Blu-ray) again to check if there are any changes (just the overall look, plus focusing some some detail in the dark areas of the scene). Shame that all the settings has to be entered in again, I think I still have photos of the settings from before the last update for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coola32 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Hi all, I was just wondering is anyone able to update/upgrade firmware via online using the Sammy? Rather than going to the support page and downloading to USB flash drive. I get things like time out error or latest firmware not available yet. If this is the same for all will it it ever work? Or what is the point of having it , if we can't utilise the feature. Cheers DK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron1503559589 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Our SP61L2H finally died with a pop 2 weeks ago. Pity as I bought a new globe only 3 months ago. Not sure what died but it would flash the 3 front panel lights and then no lights. Anyone need a globe for very cheap or spares? Byron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron1503559589 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Mmm, I just replaced the lamp in mine with a new 120W OSRAM one and the picture is darker than with the old globe? Do I need to reset something in the service menu? Or is the lamp likely to be faulty.Thanks Byron Turns out I'd been sent the wrong globe. New globe was a big improvement. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hd-abc123 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 If this is the same for all will it it ever work? Or what is the point of having it , if we can't utilise the feature. I also have the wireless dongle attached and have waited a few weeks after a firmware update has been issued and it would always say i had the latest firmware. I ended up using the USB stick method as i gave up waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Anyone that got (and kept) the original free bonus, there was a new firmware update last week for the BD-C6900 player: (1017.2) http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/tv-audi...amp;tab=support (Yep, downloaded it first before posting, got 190KB/s throughout the download - unlike the other day where it went from about there to 60KB/s when I made the post here!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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