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Dr X

If you want to know the SGRs price, you can phone them up and ask them. They are apparently a "bespoke" speaker maker so they do not make standardised models. As such, the price would be a factor of a number of things which would change with the requirements of the potential purchaser.

If you personally think that you can do better for less money, more power to you. If you are driven for whatever reason to trumpet this estimation here without having ANY experience of the product you are oh so "subtly" rubbishing (not to mention those who have chosen to purchase the product), don't expect to be taken seriously.

You, sir, are a tiresome individual.

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has the dust settled?

SGR build speakers at all price points. Sure, there are always other competitive options around.

I'm happy with my purchase, and have gone back for more. The approach I've taken with my setup, has allowed me to get to a full range solution in stages.

I do continue to listen to other gear. And I dont claim that any other solutions are better or worse. I'll just re-iterate that I feel my solution, has been very good value for money.

[edit] Oh, 1 other thing. I do relate to all SNA'ers who are curious about the price of SGR equipment, and cant easily browse a catalog with prices. It's fair feedback to be making. Not everyone is comfortable to pickup the phone and ask about pricing. I have to admit, my first phone call was a little uncomfortable. But I'm glad I took that inital step.

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I think Terry makes a valid point. I heard SGRs ages ago and they are great, but if I was looking for speakers I would want to know what price range they are in. In fact, I felt similarly about Osborn until I found out the price, now I own Osborns. I can understand that made for order stuff involves haggling and the like but, given the very wide range of speaker prices, from a few thousand to 6 figures, it is very useful to know what range different speakers fit into. Personally I have always avoided sellers of anything who don't mention price, after all what is the point of going somewhere to find you can't afford anything, not worth the risk really. We can easily find the price of most speakers and it really is essential information.

As for the line about "go and visit them", well I'm not in the market for speakers so if I did visit them I would be wasting their time, something I feel is unfair and won't do.

Oh, and asking for price is not a criticism, it's just asking for essential information.

DS

Hi Davidsss,

I love the smell of Napalm in the morning!

Being a pacifist I steered clear of this one once the conflicting personalities took over from rationality, but hey, what's a few right hooks between friends.

In many ways I'm with you on this in that it is hard to determine if you can allow yourself to be interested in a product that ultimately you will not be able to afford. When I did my 'grand tour of Melbourne' at the beginning of last year, SGR were not even on the initial audition list. John A's Octagons at a rumoured $35-40K were simply not an option and I hadn't heard enough about SGR to know that they had many other alleys and freeways to lead the budding upgrader or seasoned audiophile along. (No garden paths though)

Luckily I got the invite from Harry to come over and try a few options which he promised would be within cooee of my declared budget, and the rest, because I took him up on his offer, is history.

My thoughts are that, without wishing to read the minds of the SGR crew, they simply cannot be too definite in their costings due to the diversity and options offered within any model type, their constant evolution of new models, (plenty more of those to be ...... oooops) and because of the lead time between first perusal, order, manufacture and delivery the price can change considerably, for obvious reasons, mostly because being such a small opration it does tend to be a long wait at the moment. The next pair or system, may have to be more - or less, costly and previous rrp's or whatever quotations be redundant.

I would imagine that when the machinery gets more oiled and production gets more focus than R & D all will change and the web site will be more informative, the prices stabilised and lead times reduced.

Hopefully some peace may again reign in our SNA time,

Though I doubt it.

Grimmie

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My thoughts are that, without wishing to read the minds of the SGR crew, they simply cannot be too definite in their costings due to the diversity and options offered within any model type, their constant evolution of new models, (plenty more of those to be ...... oooops) and because of the lead time between first perusal, order, manufacture and delivery the price can change considerably, for obvious reasons, mostly because being such a small operation it does tend to be a long wait at the moment. The next pair or system, may have to be more - or less, costly and previous rrp's or whatever quotations be redundant.

Grimmie

If this is true, then it wouldn't go down to well for someone who spends big to suddenly find their pride and joy was just another product in the SGR R&D chain...

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If this is true, then it wouldn't go down to well for someone who spends big to suddenly find their pride and joy was just another product in the SGR R&D chain...

This is the reason why many have advised to call them and discuss your options.

SGR have made known to me the status of their products

as they have done with others who have contacted them :P

Yes, I can understand it is daunting at first to make the first call

and then talk price.

I was too.

And no, I do not own any SGR products.

But then again this is just my opinion chatting with SGR.

kevin_

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i think people are forgetting a few things here

SGR was never originally going to be a speaker manufacturer. It was more electronics, amplifiers and crossovers.

However, speakers had to be built to test these electronics.

Now here we are today...the first SGR speaker that was offered to the general public were the octagons at a price of $40k

then came the MT3' s at the same price point.

There is nothing else in the SGR product line CURRENTLY that is a consumer product. Everything else they do is custom work.

This wil of course change and there are some very exciting things happening which will no doubt all be revealed when the time is right i would suppose, along with all the rrp.

MT3's as i am aware will be a made on order product with a long wait time due to the amount of work required to build them.

Now i suppose i can reveal as to what is included in this price

well its a fairly nice box count

there are the speakers

there are the cables made up to any length you require

then there are the electronics

the new case goods which will be revealed in due time.

you get 1 big dual mono amp to drive the bottom sections

then you get 2 smaller 2 channel amps one for each top section

you also get the adjustable crossover equalizer and pre amp

SO

just add your source

If anyone wants custom work, of course this too can be catered for to all budgets

The MT3's were not available when i ordered my octagons, and as with every other product out there, advances are made and new models are created.

But i have been given the option to try the new mt3 head, and worked out a deal to swap over my top sections if i so desire.

This again is what i call great service from SGR.

If they come up with a better crossover of eq module/s, again there is the option to just have your product upgraded instead of purchasing a new product

Now of course once SGR are ahead of the 8 ball so to speak (currently so many orders to fill, they don't have much time for anything else) i'm sure there website will be finalised, and once all the official products are announced, all rrp will also be announced.

There will still be custom work and then price will be on individual requirements

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If this is true, then it wouldn't go down to well for someone who spends big to suddenly find their pride and joy was just another product in the SGR R&D chain...

Nice twist M75,

I kinda like it, though the words 'just another product' and the acronym SGR don't belong in the same sentence. Also being one of those (not exactly) big spenders, i actually hope my pride and joy gets to be cloned a thousand times, thereby bringing peace love and 'appeeness to the masses and mega bucks to the deserving three musicateers. Quantity of scale may just then see the price come down a little and I will own the rapidly appreciating in value Serial No.004, - a veritable heirloom.

Grimmie

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If this is true, then it wouldn't go down to well for someone who spends big to suddenly find their pride and joy was just another product in the SGR R&D chain...

Hi Mika

It doesn't matter if its SGR or any other manufacturer whether its Audio or not .If your willing to buy a product thats going through its R&D stage you know there could be further developments down the track whether there better or just different but you know this from the start and as far as price go's it could work out cheaper for you and if you like the final product and you want to upgrade it wouldn't be that expensive .

Cheers

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My thoughts are that, without wishing to read the minds of the SGR crew, they simply cannot be too definite in their costings due to the diversity and options offered within any model type, their constant evolution of new models, (plenty more of those to be ...... oooops) and because of the lead time between first perusal, order, manufacture and delivery the price can change considerably, for obvious reasons, mostly because being such a small operation it does tend to be a long wait at the moment. The next pair or system, may have to be more - or less, costly and previous rrp's or whatever quotations be redundant.

Grimmie

If this is true, then it wouldn't go down to well for someone who spends big to suddenly find their pride and joy was just another product in the SGR R&D chain...

Hello Mika75,

You seem very new here and I apologise for not welcoming you within one of the other threads to which you have already contributed.

As a very happy owner of MT3A Serial No. 006 please allow me to address your genuine concern for those who commit to what is a serious financial investment in their future musical enjoyment before willingly waiting the requisite period for construction.

It is true that to date there have been many ongoing projects at SGR. Not all of this R&D is allocated to Octagons and MT3As but more about that when the appropriate time comes.

Thus far, every happy owner of an Octagon or MT3A speaker system has received temporary, albeit sonically excellent, electronics consisting of six channels of solid state amplification and a custom active line level crossover. What is nearing completion as we speak are the case good electronics which will comprise three stereo amplifiers (one larger for each of the bass sections and two smaller ones for each of the midrange and tweeters) and a separate active line level crossover (otherwise identical to what we all have currently but with added "smarts" and a built in active linestage which can be defeated for those who are attached to their current preamp). The chassis are quite unlike anything else currently on the market and the internal construction similarly sets a new benchmark for consumer electronics. Those fortunate few who have heard what this new amplifier design is sonically capable of are full of praise and astonishment. Quite an achievement when some of those people are devoted followers of the very finest valve electronics.

The whole point of the above is to illustrate that obtaining a consistent baseline reference point for the SGR Octagons and MT3As has always been the ultimate goal. Case in point is the fact that a tweaked version of an off-the-shelf Eton midrange is used in the latest MT3As. From an objective standpoint they are almost identical but there is a subjective sonic improvement and so rather than have a ragged line of one-off speakers, SGR have a strict policy of upgrading every customer's Octagon or MT3As to the current best spec (if desired) for a modest fee that would barely cover the parts involved not to mention the labour. If you own a Wilson Watt/Puppy you have to buy a new model at significant loss on resale, with an SGR Octagon or MT3A your investment is protected thanks to clever design (the decoupled sub-baffle for the midrange and tweeter in the case of MT3A). Add to this the fact that I could swap in a pair of Octagon heads and the appropriate crossover module and in an instant convert my MT3As to Octagons and what is there to complain about?

At the end of the day the only real world differences between any two pairs of Octagons or MT3As is the paint colour and choice of binding posts (or Speakon connectors), internal wire, etc. All trivial things from a sonic standpoint, I am sure you would agree, but important to the pride of ownership for the fortunate few who have the requisite funds and patience.

I could point to a number of speaker manufacturers both here and around the world who DO leave their customers with an orphaned product on a regular basis either as a result of building one-offs or models that cannot be easily upgraded.

What I have not addressed is the existence of a new design, affectionately dubbed the MT3SL (SL = slim line), which was comissioned by Drizt to suit his budget and desire for as much of the full blown MT3A magic as possible. The reality is this design will be more affordable because the bass section is MUCH easier to build. Keeping the top MT heads the same creates consistency. Having the amplification and crossover internal keeps the costs down as well since there is no need for four fancy chassis to consider. The MT3L is not intended to be a one-off and I am sure more people will gravitate towards this if their budget does not extend to an Octagon or MT3A. In essence this model is also future proofed in as much as one can swap in a different bass section and the external case good electronics and turn it into an MT3A that is identical to what everyone else has (save for paint colour and connectors as mentioned above).

Thus we have a model lineup which consists of Octagons or MT3As (take your pick depending on whether you prefer MTM or MT heads) and MT3SL for those who want a slimmer, more affordable version of the above. If a smaller speaker becomes available at retail and without the long lead time then that would surely round out a nice range of state of the art locally designed and built speakers hitting various price points and providing a consistent level of performance within each model designation. Add in ready availability of the very same sexy world-class solid state amplifiers supplied with each pair of Octagon or MT3A and the range looks even more comprehensive and complete for those who are attached to their current passive loudspeakers. When all of these pieces of the puzzle are in place then it would be appropriate to spend time and money on promotion with a website and a price list on every street corner.

So I hope that I have laid your fears to rest Mika. If you are in the market for a pair of new reference level loudspeakers then I would urge you to contact SGR through the appropriate channels. If you have a desire to modify your existing loudspeakers then you might also wish to discuss this R&D project with SGR, I know many other happy people who have done just that.

If you have any other questions then do not hesitate to ask. If you have any criticism then I suggest you save it until after you have heard the products in question or better still visited the birthplace of these products. Of late a few very knowledgable people have walked into SGR to pick them to pieces and walked away very humbled by what they have heard and seen.

There is no accounting for personal taste since the appreciation of music, both live and reproduced, is extremely subjective in nature. I defy anyone, however, to find fault with the execution of SGR's goals to create a meticulous, eye-catching, bullet-proof, thoroughly engineered product that facilitates accurate, neutral reproduction of what is on the recording using the best tools available, both now and in the future. This is something which is more ear opening and illuminating than most could imagine.

Regards,

Aaron

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What I have not addressed is the existence of a new design, affectionately dubbed the MT3L (L = lite), which was comissioned by Drizt to suit his budget and desire for as much of the full blown MT3A magic as possible.

Just a correction, its SL for Slim Line :P

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Hey John, you sure about that?

i believe there will be a small amount of adjustability for personal taste.

i can double check that though next time i speak to them

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lucky dog

i can confirm there will be adjustability

including EQ options on the bass frequencies to tame room nodes. All the adjustment options/features can be turned off and bypassed if desired

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Originally Posted by JohnA viewpost.gif

you also get the adjustable crossover equalizer and pre amp

Hey John, you sure about that?

LD, I can confirm that my speakers (and my upcoming subs) contain an EQ module, over and above (or built into) the cross over network.

This module allows SGR to ensure the speakers perform truly flat.

I'm pretty sure that when SGR performs an in-home(room) installation(calibration), Stuart is measuring room response, and adjusting the speaker response via this EQ module that he has designed.

This is not something that is user adjustable. But for the top end purchasers, they have the assurance that the product can be tailored to suit their room, to ensure the optimal performance is achieved.

When I say "pretty sure", I say so because my purchase didnt include this service (I'm not at the top end, and I'm not local to SGR).

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Perhaps so clarification is in order as there seems to be a lot of confusion around this point. SGR can build a system for any budget. Their price range is unlimited. At no point are you wasting their time. Prices have further been posted for their more common items numerous times.

Furthermore, their contact details are published on the web. Give them a call before you visit (they audition from their home at an unpublished address so this is a pre-requisite step anyway). At this stage budget, expectations, and options can be discussed.

Hey, all I said was I prefer to know the price or price range before considering a product, Not only is this an opinion I'm entitled to, I don't think that is asking too much. I'm not in the market for speakers but I'm also curious about these things so I don't think it unreasonable to know the price range for a particular product.

Secondly - ever walked into a shop, looked at something and then you ask the shop assistant how much it is and the reply is something like "how much is sir wanting to spend?" Sorry, but that's when I walk out the door. This is a real turn off for me. I know many places can build to a price but I also think it is not unreasonable to get some idea of the range by having information about various products and their price range, eg: Widget A comes in a number of configurations which range from $30k to $50k.

Frankly I wasn't going to bother replying to this thread again but I actually think it is reasonable to know the price. Telling me they are great is a different issue and not something I would dispute. But telling me their speakers are great without giving an indication of price is somewhat useless as we all have budgets.

DS

EDIT: please note I am not singling out SGR here, I think prices should always be out there, regardless of the product. I understand they are busy and that's fine by me, I remain a curious window shopper :P

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Im not taking sides but Im glad their are early adopters - they make the world go round - I work at the other end of the product life cyle (the tip) and soemtimes get laughed at for doing so (ie smelly tip rat) but we all have our little place in the food chain of audio and im gald about that - suspect it wiull be a while till I get an SGR product at the tip!

now to show i dont take sides -

Jesus loves you this I know

for the bible tells us so

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Hey, all I said was I prefer to know the price or price range before considering a product, Not only is this an opinion I'm entitled to, I don't think that is asking too much. I'm not in the market for speakers but I'm also curious about these things so I don't think it unreasonable to know the price range for a particular product.

Secondly - ever walked into a shop, looked at something and then you ask the shop assistant how much it is and the reply is something like "how much is sir wanting to spend?" Sorry, but that's when I walk out the door. This is a real turn off for me. I know many places can build to a price but I also think it is not unreasonable to get some idea of the range by having information about various products and their price range, eg: Widget A comes in a number of configurations which range from $30k to $50k.

Frankly I wasn't going to bother replying to this thread again but I actually think it is reasonable to know the price. Telling me they are great is a different issue and not something I would dispute. But telling me their speakers are great without giving an indication of price is somewhat useless as we all have budgets.

DS

EDIT: please note I am not singling out SGR here, I think prices should always be out there, regardless of the product. I understand they are busy and that's fine by me, I remain a curious window shopper :P

Hi David

Your point is taken, and if SGR were actively marketing their wares, would be valid indeed

But at this stage they don't advertise their products, submit them for review, or otherwise promote their wares.

So where exactly should they indicate price points?

The SGR surge on SNA has come from members who have bought or listened to SGR products not from SGR themselves.

Cheers

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Hey, all I said was I prefer to know the price or price range before considering a product, Not only is this an opinion I'm entitled to, I don't think that is asking too much. I'm not in the market for speakers but I'm also curious about these things so I don't think it unreasonable to know the price range for a particular product.

Secondly - ever walked into a shop, looked at something and then you ask the shop assistant how much it is and the reply is something like "how much is sir wanting to spend?" Sorry, but that's when I walk out the door. This is a real turn off for me. I know many places can build to a price but I also think it is not unreasonable to get some idea of the range by having information about various products and their price range, eg: Widget A comes in a number of configurations which range from $30k to $50k.

Frankly I wasn't going to bother replying to this thread again but I actually think it is reasonable to know the price. Telling me they are great is a different issue and not something I would dispute. But telling me their speakers are great without giving an indication of price is somewhat useless as we all have budgets.

DS

EDIT: please note I am not singling out SGR here, I think prices should always be out there, regardless of the product. I understand they are busy and that's fine by me, I remain a curious window shopper :P

David, what price is not known? Every time the question is asked a RRP is given. Why do people keep saying the price is not known ?

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oz, as far as i am aware it will only be available on the new case goods which come with the octagons/mt3 i believe, not on the plate amps

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Drizt, out of curiosity, do you have user adjustable EQ, or do you have the built in (vendor adjusted) EQ ?

Im in the same boat as you mate, I get what im given :P I have the plate amps built into the speakers. Stuart can of course change the circuit boards to what ever I desire (flat response please :D ) but I can't turn any knobs to change any settings. Im not uber lucky like Norpus, JohnA, Grimmie, Young Skywalker and others :eek: I am lucky number 005 for the MT3 heads though :P:D:D:D:D:D

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oz, as far as i am aware it will only be available on the new case goods which come with the octagons/mt3 i believe, not on the plate amps

Correctomondo

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Im not uber lucky like Norpus, JohnA, Grimmie, Young Skywalker and others :P I am lucky number 005 for the MT3 heads though :D:D:D:D:D:D

you are lucky mate. I will be given the 4 box count of goodies with adjustability, but to be honest, i doubt i would use it. Once set by Stuart thats it.

As nice as it will be to be able to experiment and trial some things with different settings, end of the day, i put my trust in the tuning capabilities of Stuart.

So your speakers will sound brilliant as you should already be aware with what you have in your room now :eek:

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I am lucky number 005 for the MT3 heads though :D:D:D:D:D:D

And I do envy that, I must say !! :P

What I envy more, is locality. If I were in Melb, I'd have had the Ralstons over for dinner by now, and an in home tuning service thrown in. But I am grateful for what I have, and what is to come.

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you are lucky mate. I will be given the 4 box count of goodies with adjustability, but to be honest, i doubt i would use it. Once set by Stuart thats it.

As nice as it will be to be able to experiment and trial some things with different settings, end of the day, i put my trust in the tuning capabilities of Stuart.

So your speakers will sound brilliant as you should already be aware with what you have in your room now :D

My thoughts exactly.

In STUART we trust :P

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What is the rated power on the amps?
Hello musical physic,

I believe the initial intention was for 150 W into 8 ohms for the amps designated to midrange and tweeter duties and 300 W into 8 ohms for the amps assigned to bass duties on the MT3A or Octagons. The custom power supplies are certainly spec'd for this output (with extremely low distortion and zero noise from the speakers at idle) but I suspect Stuart may be biasing more heavily into Class A and going for more quality over quantity before the final release. By all accounts the amps don't even need to engage second gear for normal playback levels, even in a HUGE acoustic space. I have been told that at least one very knowledgeable builder and lover of valve equipment was quite taken with the sound of SGR's new Elite Series solid state amp.

The terms neutral and transparent are tossed around very casually in high end audio circles but I suspect these new SGR amps may actually warrant such descriptors by coming closer to the ideal "straight wire with gain" than many other commercial products.

Even now with placeholder plate amps, albeit superb ones, it is certainly refreshing to hear less of the system's signature and more of the music.

I've said it before but it bears repeating that I am now pulling records off the shelf and discovering new meaning to the music because I can hear more continuous natural detail, not the audiophile spotlit party trick that becomes fatiguing very quickly.

There is an insatiable hunger for more music because every piece has something new to be discovered. Most people would acknowledge that classical music is the hardest to reproduce on a home hi-fi system and yet this is the very genre of music that impresses me the most with my rig. No, the soundstage will never be the same size as it is in the concert hall, a pysical impossibility for many reasons, not least of which is recording technique/microphone/speaker placement, but ALL of the little things that make a live symphonic experience so compelling are there to be enjoyed IF the recording engineer managed to capture them, which the vast majority of Deccas, Mercury Living Presence and Living Stereo LPs surprisingly do.

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Either JohnA is a top bloke or he just made his 1st move on Nelly ;)

ok, back on topic, 40k for active loudspeakers u say ?

What is SGR doing that someone else isn't?

Why not just get the B&W 802d, 3 high power amplifiers & the Behringer DCX. With this configuration u can create virtually any sound u want...under 30k :D

Hi Mika

Been there , done that.

I guess I helped start the trend as I did indeed sell my beloved 802D to make way for the SGR Octagons #1 pair of which I am most proud.

And yes, I also had twin 18" IB subs augmenting the 802D via Behringer mixer/crossove/eq setup and they sounded fab. Unfortunately, I found the Octagons better again so had to have them. No regrets (apart from just reading the middle of this thread :()

And yes I did seriously talk to Stuart about him converting the 802Ds to active, and they would have sounded good, but they still would have had a ported bass with a hump due to design. Nothing wrong with the drivers in them for sure, and B&W service was excellent (even a home call at no cost at one stage)

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150w for the mid/high, and 300w for the low.

This may not be sufficient to drive them to their full potential without clipping, but as it's been alluded to earlier, u are only limited by ur budget with $GR :D

Hey norpus - what system u were running b4 u switched to the SGR, and what were the differences that made u switch?

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150w for the mid/high, and 300w for the low.

This may not be sufficient to drive them to their full potential without clipping, but as it's been alluded to earlier, u are only limited by ur budget with $GR :D

Nice sarcasm. ;)

Its an active system mate, so power requirements are much lower than for a wasteful passive system. I have never! ever heard the Octagons or MT3a's strained, and thats with well over 110dB material etc. I don't listen anywhere near that loud but its nice to know that I have the head room.

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150w for the mid/high, and 300w for the low.

This may not be sufficient to drive them to their full potential without clipping, but as it's been alluded to earlier, u are only limited by ur budget with $GR :D

Hey norpus - what system u were running b4 u switched to the SGR, and what were the differences that made u switch?

I think I answered that q in the edit of my first reply above

I rather think you would reach compression of the drivers before you reach clipping. I have only heard compression once so far on the Octagons and it was at pretty high spl levels in the midrange on some unfamiliar music.

Remember the 300watts doesn't need to push through any big inductors in a crossover, so 300watts (active) would act more like 600w rms (passive)per twin 10" driver. More than enough in my experience (I know what clipping and bottoming bass drivers both sound like and it aint pretty)

The top end on the B&W's was more subdued/laid back.

Clarity overall in the vocals

Bass -flat, no port hump, tighter, extended

Subtleties of hearing things you hadn't noticed before on tracks

Thanks for asking

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I have only heard compression once so far on the Octagons and it was at pretty high spl levels in the midrange on some unfamiliar music.

:D:eek: Bloody hell... how loud and what it (if unknown what type of music) ??

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      Price for package:  CX3B MK II pair (including matching stands, 3.5m SGR XLR cables) and CX3C Mk II (including stand, not pictured) $12,999. $11,500  Package no longer available
      RRP for the set of 3 speakers is in excess of $30K.
      CX3Bs are left and right bookshelf speakers, CX3C is the center speaker below TV.   Sub woofers on floor, TV and NAS plus table not for sale..
       

       
      Price for Left & Right speakers only : CX3B MK II pair including matching stands and 3.5m SGR XLR cables $9,500   $8,700 $8,200 including shipping to major cities and regional centres in Australia.
      RRP for a new pair of CX3B Mk II is $22K, with discounts rare.
       

       
      Price for center speaker only: CX3C Mk II including stand $4,500  $4,000 SOLD
      Not sure of actual RRP but the CX3C sells at slightly less than half of the CX3B which makes it about $10 to $10.5K
       


       
      Pickup preferred, but can ship (see below). Donation to SNA if sold
      Item Condition: Good (would be rated immaculate if newer)  ** never had a problem with them , exceptionally well built and reliable **
      Reason for selling: see below
      Payment Method:  Bank Transfer, cash on pickup (if you must).
      Extra Info:  
      My treasured SGR Audio speakers are potentially on the market as I investigate make a significant simplification of my setup. Never envisaged writing this as I thought they were keepers forever!
       
      Was originally motivated to purchase SGR Audio active speakers because of their clarity, detail, and value for money.  Yes, value for money because there is no need for power amplifiers, with the in-built class A/B amplifiers perfectly matched to the speakers. Chose the CX3Bs with more WAF appeal but otherwise are built to the same standards as the larger CX4Fs (review).
       
      https://www.sgrloudspeakers.com/collection/convex-series.html
      While the CX3Bs are bookshelves, they can match many floor standers and go down to 35 Hz.  
       
      Recently upgraded all 3 to MkII which gave a significant performance boost. ** no warranty with upgrade, but SGR exceptional customer service will fix any upgrade issue, likely for free **
       
      The CX3Bs are currently being used in my 2 channel and HT setups. The CX3C is only for HT, newer and used a lot less.  The CX3Bs together with the CX3C make a superb, matched front speaker combination for HT.
       
      If required, shipment can be arranged.  No original packaging because they were delivered and installed by Stuart Ralston (of SGR Audio).  Will get Stuart’s advice on how best to ship them, but cost will likely be significant as speakers plus stands are heavy and a wooden crate will likely be recommended.  Shipping now included to major cities and regional centres in Australia.  Will be well protected in heavy cartons.

      Please note that this an EOI to gauge interest and is dependent on the simplification going ahead.  I hope to make a decision in the next two weeks on whether to proceed with the sale.  
      Decision made to proceed with sale.

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    • By vic
      Item: 2 x SGR SS18p subwoofer 
      Location:Sydney 
      Price: $2000 both
      Item Condition:very good
      Reason for selling:not used 
      Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only
      Extra Info:85kg each, peavey cs4080hz also available to  power subs 2000w per channel 4 ohms.
       660h x 540w x 588d (mm)
      125Lt.
      colour Black.
      Pictures:

    • By Gurnstar
      Item:  SGR AUDIO CX3B Pair Bookshelf in Bamboo Gloss
      Location: ADELAIDE
      Price: 5990
      Item Condition: AS NEW, BALANCE WARRANTY
      Reason for selling:  MOVING 
      Payment Method: Cash, Paypal, COD, EFT, Delivery arranged at cost
      Extra Info:  As new, mint, perfect cond, with stands, power supplies, original boxes, etc.  Original first owner. Opportunity to upgrade to Mark 2 with new current drive from SGR but be quick.  PM for more pics
       
      Pictures:

    • By russell66
      Hi
      I tried to get some pics and a bit of info on some of the rooms, I'll have to keep updating over the next few days. Sorry if any spelling is wrong or names or prices. I should be able to present a half decent overview though. I'll just say once that all comments are to my ears, i didn't use anyone else at the show. And all opinions are mine I am not writing about any one else.
      If you have a question let me know I may be able to come up with an answer.
      Rooms are in no particular order.
       
      First up is this huge room with huge JBL and huge Melody electronics. This was a large scale sound. Big bass but just because you can have big bass doesn't mean you should. I felt it smeared into the rest of the sound. I perhaps can see why some like it but for me it was underwhelming. They seem to be making things bigger these days and then charger more.










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