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by the way the m235i failed the moose test...apprently its Front driven platform really not helping its agility and handling....

 

though i am confused since its called M235i X drive so its really AWD though i guess yes with FWD bias.... the testers do say though the bridgestone turanzas it uses have never given them good results in any case. so not sure how much tyres to blame...

 

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/08/07/m235i-gran-coupe-latest-victim-moose-test/?fbclid=IwAR0gXecGyZUHsEWRC_k7zQS1vQ8F-egLhqdunvsLIhChxEj7exLcE6vpRKw

 

"This negative performance in the moose test puts the new M235i Gran Coupe close to the Mercedes-CLA 200, which failed the test at 66 km/h. The new Volkswagen Golf VIII was better by 1 km/h, but it was still not enough for the Wolfsburg to pass the test as well.

 

But, even though the M235i failed the test by hitting the cones at 78 km/h, the Spanish journalists point out that, at least from qualitative point of view, the sports Gran Coupe actually had a predictable and safe behavior during the entire maneuver.

 

 

However, it is clear that the front-driven platform has its shortcomings when it comes to top level agility and handling, to steering precision and dynamic behavior at the utmost limit, irrespective of any technical chassis measures taken by the M division to sharpen up the M235i.

Nonetheless, let’s see the whole track action with the BMW M235i Gran Coupe during the moose test in the following video."

 

 

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I would have hoped to have been paying enough attention to the road and seeing the moose way before having the need to swerve like that.

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GOSH !  😧

 

and that was just the old RWD 118d ! of all things and slipped through pretty deftly ...

 

the new 118i FWD seems all out of sorts there ! horrid ! 

 

amazing really quite different cars.... definitely take the so much more composed 118d out of those two...even if its older gen ! 

 

progress with the new one ? clearly not ! 

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definitely take the so much more composed 118d out of those two...even if its older gen ! 


Agree with that, it also seems to carry more speed though the final turns than other cars and clips that middle end cone on the way out, 

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Yeah love my E87 120D with M-Sport Suspension - handles like its on rails.

Those vids show why we all love RWD and hate FWD ;) 

 

I am actually looking at a 2013 M135i at the moment but as much as I love the car and the missus wants it too I am a bit reluctant to drop over $25k on a car with 135,000kms. We only do 10,000 per year so at the end of the lease it will have just under 200,000 and will be 12 years old. Really worried that it won't be worth anywhere near the $7,500 residual.

The car is black (the only colour) and has about $3k worth of exhaust, intake and MHD tune and is in absolute pristine immaculate condition. The exhaust is the best sounding exhaust I have ever heard and is almost enough to make buying the car worth it at any price :)

 

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/perth/cars-vans-utes/bmw-m135i-f20-auto-/1251909481

 

Any body have any sage words of advice or just general thoughts ? 

 

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18 minutes ago, niterida said:

Yeah love my E87 120D with M-Sport Suspension - handles like its on rails.

Those vids show why we all love RWD and hate FWD ;) 

 

I am actually looking at a 2013 M135i at the moment but as much as I love the car and the missus wants it too I am a bit reluctant to drop over $25k on a car with 135,000kms. We only do 10,000 per year so at the end of the lease it will have just under 200,000 and will be 12 years old. Really worried that it won't be worth anywhere near the $7,500 residual.

The car is black (the only colour) and has about $3k worth of exhaust, intake and MHD tune and is in absolute pristine immaculate condition. The exhaust is the best sounding exhaust I have ever heard and is almost enough to make buying the car worth it at any price :)

 

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/perth/cars-vans-utes/bmw-m135i-f20-auto-/1251909481

 

Any body have any sage words of advice or just general thoughts ? 

 

@agelessgoodguy will be best to advise, he sold his higher mileage m135 possibly same vintage.

 

one thing i'll say though, these things hold up VERY well as a car with age and mileage ! seeing Ageless' car, one of reasons I bought my m140i as pretty serious to take it the distance of 10 years at least ! 

 

especially since they have also hit some sort of cult status especially so late in the models life....and the new one doesnt seem to really follow in the same path..

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Yeah  might have to take the plunge methinks :) 

Just realised I would be quite happy to pay (or refinance)  the $7500 residual at the end for a 12yr old car with less than 200kms and more (much more) than 200kw 😁

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10 hours ago, betty boop said:

@agelessgoodguy will be best to advise, he sold his higher mileage m135 possibly same vintage.

 

one thing i'll say though, these things hold up VERY well as a car with age and mileage ! seeing Ageless' car, one of reasons I bought my m140i as pretty serious to take it the distance of 10 years at least ! 

 

especially since they have also hit some sort of cult status especially so late in the models life....and the new one doesnt seem to really follow in the same path..

Yep Al's on the money niterida, while the M135i is fun  & lovely car when you move into an M140i the higher level of refinement it brings , the extra smiles and the extra grunt you'll just love which ever you can afford. Your question about mileage is not really a question, because once you've moved into the BMW family you'll quickly discover just how well and determined to have you happy BMW are; it becomes obvious that they do last and last; at only 135000 odd km that car isn't even half way through its working life, from many experiences with this brand I can say at around 350,000 km its likely you'll start spending money on seals and gearboxes not counting normal wear and tear items. My words should be noted to be coming from someone who clocks up around 500-750 km /week atm so a lot of regular driving which does the car good. Its a known fact that cars driven short distances infrequently will deteriorate faster through levels of corrosion in some parts too, so have that thought in your mind but that doesn't only apply to BMW's its across the brands. I passed my M135i on at around 240,000 km in 4-5 years, if I recall correctly, to my car's BMW mechanic who then ran her for a few months to pass it on again to its third owner just so he could enjoy it and make a small profit over what he paid me, and he gave a six month warranty! The M135i has a known issue with an engine fixture called a charge pipe that's made from plastic and can break causing strange power deficiencies. Mine cost around $875 to repair but Chris above on here, when his went, brought a non BMW part and saved a lot but ask him if he'd do it again that way? So in summary why haven't you got her home already I ask?  its a real no brainer, what colour and style?  Good luck and enjoy an "Ultimate Driving Machine"

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If I was buying one of these second hand, I would honestly find out as much as I could about the history of the particular vehicle.  List of things that go on them that I know from first hand is:

Oil Filter Housing O-Ring goes hard and leaks at top of front of engine.

Rocker Cover Gasket Leak

Charge Pipe breaks

Accessories Drive belt idler bearing rattly.

 

None of the above is a real deal breaker for me  as Ive had a performance subaru  with much higher maintenance costs and Im pretty sure most of the cars that are likely to suffer from these problems have already gone through these issues before 125,000km so you might be OK.

 

When I bought mine, I spent the extra cash to get the last of the old shape (early 2015) over the 2012-3 models that were out there - the early 2015 had the better screen and spec as per the 2015+ plus  models.. I personally preferred the rear tail lights of the original model so went with that.

 

If I was about to lease another now though, Id spend up to get the m140i as the actual residual value will be much higher and might even cover the extra bucks in terms of the lease.  Please note, I don't know for sure and I am not seeking to offer financial advice.  My credentials in that regard are poor given Im into hifi.

 

 

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Thanks guys  - car has a metal charge pipe already. Haven't checked it out properly mechanically yet but the owner is absolutely fastidious so pretty sure everything will be top notch. I have approval to spend a lot more (from the finance company not the missus ;)) and could even get an M2 if I wanted but I just can't bring myself to sign away for that much money (and another coupe isn't exactly practical) so $25k is pretty much my self-imposed limit. I hate depreciation (that's why my other cars are a VZ Monaro and a VZ Cross 6 One Tonner) and figure if I only spend $25k I can only lose $25k 😁

Cheers

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The fact it has a metal charge pipe is a good sign that someone has wanted to repair the vehicle with longevity in mind.

 

Hang onto those VZ's! I reckon the VZ Monaro will be worth a 2 or 3  135s in a bout 10 year's time.  There might be a specialist collector into the Cross6 one tonner in a few years too. As you probably know, something like a VL Berlina Turbo can fetch 30-50 at the moment.  Its nuts!

 

I think there will be a few people interested in the M135i in a few years but like anything, low km and good original condition items will be the first to have some reasonable value.  Good luck and have fun with it.

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I am actually looking at a 2013 M135i at the moment but as much as I love the car and the missus wants it too I am a bit reluctant to drop over $25k on a car with 135,000kms. We only do 10,000 per year so at the end of the lease it will have just under 200,000 and will be 12 years old. Really worried that it won't be worth anywhere near the $7,500 residual.

The car is black (the only colour) and has about $3k worth of exhaust, intake and MHD tune and is in absolute pristine immaculate condition. The exhaust is the best sounding exhaust I have ever heard and is almost enough to make buying the car worth it at any price :)

 

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/perth/cars-vans-utes/bmw-m135i-f20-auto-/1251909481

 

Any body have any sage words of advice or just general thoughts ? 

It's a slippery slope...but fun

 

 

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15 minutes ago, murrmax said:

 

It's a slippery slope...but fun

 

 

hahaha won't be going that far $$$$

 

Would really like a 135i coupe - they seem to have started going up in value already but unfortunately once again it is not practical :(

Might swap the Monaro for one in the future.......

 

Still debating whether I should go for it - really struggling to get my head around the (now) 133,000km. Really didn't want to buy anything over 100,000. BUt then they are either standard or too expensive - oh first world dilemmas :)

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It is a difficult one but I think if you really like the car, budget a reasonable sum for stuff that might go wrong and accept it.  That way, if something does go wrong, the car is good enough to make you want to fix it. If nothing goes wrong, you are ahead.  Imagine being stuck with car that doesn't make you happy, and then still having to spend money on it.

 

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