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No worries @astormsau . I used a baerwald protractor when I reset my 2m red and that seemed to work well and was dead easy to align.

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On 2017-5-31 at 7:05 PM, astormsau said:

 


Haha get into it! Good selection. Have the 2M black on my RP8 and it's a champ. Let us know how you feel about it once it's bolted in. I used a MoFi Geodisc for alignment and had good first off success with its alignment.

Drew


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Hi guys got my 2m black set up today and all i can say is WOW. So much more depth than the red. The red was still a great sounding cart but the black is just soooooo much better. Lovin' the step up. Thanks to all who offered advice and suggestions.

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Now you just need to give it 50-100 hours to run in and then it will be more fun.

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Givin' it a good work out Drew. I'm a third of the way through my studio box set of Queen in honor of the Queens birthday long weekend. Plus a few others on the side. Should be right by the end of the weekend
Cheers Matt.


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Glad you're liking it. Well set up, it's a corker of a cartridge. I see why many think it's too bright, but after a good run in it's a delight. I have a Bronze that seemed to take aroun 25 hours to be settled, but the Black was at least double that. Other posters around the place agree that the Black does take an age to calm down. 

Now that it's doing its thing, I've started experimenting with arm hieght on my RP8. Tail up, flat, tail down...it all makes a difference and I'm just trying to find what clicks in my system.

enjoy!

Mick.

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When I bought my all black P25 it was the most expensive item in my system and, although I've changed and improved my speakers and amplification, I've never seriously considered replacing the Rega with its simple elegant classic design. I have added to it though, so if I was starting afresh now I'd probably try and snaffle a used P8. There's even 9s and 10s starting to appear on the used market.
My P25 has a Heed Orbit 2 PSU, Audiomods MkV VTAF tonearm, Groovetracer Reference subplatter, Herbies Audio Way Excellent mat and Tenderfeet and it sits on the Rega wall shelf because of sprung wood floors. I had toyed with a pulley replacement but the risk of motor damage in its removal made me pass. Rega White belt fitted with an Edwards Red Little Belter as the spare. I've got an SRM Tech motor thrust bearing kit to fit sometime in the future.
I did buy the Pete Riggle VTA adjuster before swapping out the RB600 for the Audiomods but when I read the instructions which told me I had to enlarge the tonearm hole in the plinth I baulked. The Audiomods is a killer arm at a very good price. The VTA adjuster on the Audiomods arm prevents fitting the Rega cover so I had an acrylic cover made that fits over the entire table.
Cartridges I have used are, in order of purchase, Dynavector 10x5, Clearaudio Virtuoso Wood and Cartridgeman Music Maker III, the later instead of dabbling with moving coils.
I had my EAR834P phono stage modded with a bespoke PSU designed and constructed by David Peach of Peach Audio in Sydney.
I think what I've done and the parts I've used are the 'classic' upgrades to the P25. I keep receipts but I've never bothered to count up the total cost as it could be very close now to a higher spec Rega.
I simply like my P25 and it's mods and the sound it makes. As my hifi mentors, Michael and Warren from the now defunct The Music Room, used to reality-check me with when I'd come in with a head swimming with hifi reviewers comments, "Mark, sit down - do you want want to listen to music or to hifi?" It's often too easy to get carried away with the cerebral aspect of the hobby and forget it's all about listening to and feeling the music.
I think there's a certain level of turntable performance that warrants the dollars spent, then any further small improvements are going to cost proportionately more. That extra money could better be spent on purchasing quality LPs. There's a lot of new records being churned out now that are poorly mastered and poorly made and they won't sound good on any decent turntable let alone a top-end model. I've got a sizeable collection, purged now of these CD clone vinyl, and limit myself to Analogue Productions, Mobile Fidelity, Speakers Corner, Intervention, Music Matters and now Tone Poet for new purchases. Nonesuch have analogue with a hi Rez digital step in the chain but at least they're honest about it and they're the only label pressing Punch Brothers albums. I use Michael Fremer's Analog Planet and the stevehoffman forum to get reviews on reissues before buying.

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I still love my P25. I am using a 2M blue at the moment and am happy with the sound so the black must be great. I have also used a Garrott Brothers P77 retipped with an optim stylus. That was a good combination.

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Is the ortofon Blue better than the GarrottP77?

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1 minute ago, wen said:

Is the ortofon Blue better than the GarrottP77?

No.

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How does the Garrott P77 rate against the 2M bronze

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7 minutes ago, wen said:

How does the Garrott P77 rate against the 2M bronze

You need to audition them yourself. Everybodies got an opinion and theirs could be different to yours.

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I have the 2Mbronze already, have always wondered about the P77

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No.

Agreed the P77 was my favourite. I used it until it wore out and wanted an immediate replacement. I keep meaning to get it serviced to see if it just needs another stylus or if more work is required to get it back up to scratch.

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Wow, this topic is still going. Just thought I'd interject and let everyone know I'm still running my 2m black and still love the sound. I have done a bit of tube rolling to fine tune the pre and power amps and really satisfied with the sound. I've done quite a few upgrades to the tt including a tonearm rewire which made a huge difference from the crap rega wiring. I have toyed with the idea of trying other carts but until the black is dead I'll stick with it cause it's so good. I also upgraded my speakers with some custom built adelaide speakers which are absolutely stunning. I firmly believe that synergy in the complete system makes all the difference and if you find that then kick back and enjoy the music.

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