Citroen Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 5/8/2017 at 0:58 PM, mloutfie said: This looks to be another good feet for it http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Valab-Audio-Vibration-Isolation-Damper-Feet-4-Pcs/302278723028?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3Dd8182e93b0c74224bd0a015ed053a52e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D292092721507 On 5/8/2017 at 1:05 PM, dwbasement said: Looked at these too but only support 2kg per feet... Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk I use these, or at least something that looks very similar, under my Metrum DAC. And like Tubularbells, my Ikea Aptitlig works best in the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progfoxx Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On May 4, 2017 at 0:02 AM, Mrs Bagcroft said: hmm fair enough. Even SS phono amps? Just trying to get my head around how it could make a difference. I am also struggling to find that reasoning on such products. Turntables; absolutely. Tube amps; maybe. But I need some more info myself on further isolating, solid state equipment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 It seems as though products try toA) isolate outside vibrationB) drain away internal vibrationC) bothMicrophony is real and measurable, so there's no problem there. The only question is, does it make any difference? Clearly stuff that moves (turntables, CD players) benefit from having the reading apparatus engaging with the most "still" thing to be read. I think most agree there. Tube dampers seem to make quite a difference, too, to my ears. Anywhere you have electric current and heat you have motion, and a tube ticks both boxes. SS phono pre? I'd think there'd be a benefit there, too. Tiny electrical signals passing through vibrating parts? Seems fair. Doesn't it?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Sorry, I forgot the important bit! Electrical circuit manuals acknowledge that components can transform mechanical vibrations into unwanted electrical noise. Phono pre with tiny signals I imagine would be easily interrupted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, AussieMick said: Sorry, I forgot the important bit! Electrical circuit manuals acknowledge that components can transform mechanical vibrations into unwanted electrical noise. Phono pre with tiny signals I imagine would be easily interrupted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is correct. However, components in just such a circuit as a solid state phono preamp, should be selected to minimise problems such as microphony. Cheaper equipment will benefit most from removing the vibration as good equipment will use parts and designs that will minimise this problem. With good components, it may not be noticeable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Agreed. Of course, it depends on the resolution of the rest of the system, too. I'm afraid we're back to, "if you hear a difference you like, use. If not, don't use it". Ah, it's a simple life... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misternavi Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 This looks to be another good feet for it http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Valab-Audio-Vibration-Isolation-Damper-Feet-4-Pcs/302278723028?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3Dd8182e93b0c74224bd0a015ed053a52e%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D292092721507 i've used them. nothing great about it. better off without it.Sent from my iPhone using Telepathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, AussieMick said: I'm afraid we're back to, "if you hear a difference you like, use. If not, don't use it". Ah, it's a simple life... But some people's thought pattern is "If I don't hear a difference (and other people do) ... maybe my ears aren't very perceptive (so I should just go ahead use the 'thing' which others have said is good, in case it really is providing a benefit"!). Andy Edited May 15, 2017 by andyr 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Or if the product is low cost then someone might say it doesn't "hurt" the sound so I'll just leave it there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joz Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Or everyone else is buying them, FOMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, frankn said: Or if the product is low cost then someone might say it doesn't "hurt" the sound so I'll just leave it there anyway. Xackly! If you can hear it isn't doing anything baaad ... then it's probably doing some slight good. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Sometimes all slight good or even so small that we can't even hear with normal ears would make a difference when many of these slight goods put together...Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 We're a crazy bunch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Sure we are...Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I think you mean, "we sure are". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisis Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 They are throwing them out . $16.95 a throw had to get the missus to grab a handful. Should have bought a carton, put up a web page with outrageous unqualified claims, printed a presumptuous name on it and flog them for $1000 a piece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astormsau Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 They are throwing them out . $16.95 a throw had to get the missus to grab a handful. Should have bought a carton, put up a web page with outrageous unqualified claims, printed a presumptuous name on it and flog them for $1000 a piece. Did they do anything?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obitankenobi Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Did they do anything?? [emoji4]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk +1 I'll also vouch for them having an effect. Weird I know but seems to workSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leewood Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Oh Dear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) On ?28?/?04?/?2017 at 9:29 AM, TerryO said: I recently started a thread about these 3D constrained layer dampening discs and I had some what you might call interesting responces from people who had not tried them. Those that had tried them all agreed that they made a positive difference though. In case you guys are interested this may be another option to consider. http://www.lenwallisaudio.com/products/accessories/tweaks/3d-2-constrained-layer-damping-discs cheers Terry Seriously guys have any of you tried these dampening discs? They do cost a wee bit more than chopping blocks though. Anyway for me they work, I did buy some Ikea chopping blocks though, but they are to be placed under the speaker spikes so I can move them around to find the best position without marking the floor. cheers Terry Edited June 14, 2017 by TerryO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMick Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 +1 for the 3D discs. Love them. Cheap, too.Mick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, AussieMick said: +1 for the 3D discs. Love them. Cheap, too. Mick. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Add me to that list also. Best money I have spent and far cheaper and exponentially better than a power cord upgrade. These actually work and yes, I was a sceptic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I just ordered a box, the guy from LW said no much benefit on analog? Mostly on digital equipments, anyone has a different view?Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, dwbasement said: I just ordered a box, the guy from LW said no much benefit on analog? Mostly on digital equipments, anyone has a different view? Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk They work very well indeed on CD players and my Rega Saturn benefited greatly. Slightly less so on my TT, but still very worthwhile. I think part of the result with my TT was that it already has had constrained layer damping applied to the platter, which was part of a general upgrade when I bought it. I highly recommend this product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbasement Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 They work very well indeed on CD players and my Rega Saturn benefited greatly. Slightly less so on my TT, but still very worthwhile. I think part of the result with my TT was that it already has had constrained layer damping applied to the platter, which was part of a general upgrade when I bought it. I highly recommend this product. Good to know. hopefully I get it on Friday so that I can play around it in the weekend!Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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