cazzesman 2,086 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, misternavi said: I never heard of it before and had to search online for more info. Wowsers! The internal layout looks impressive. $$$$$$$+$ Regards Cazzesman Link to post Share on other sites
misternavi 1,251 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, cazzesman said: $$$$$$$+$ Regards Cazzesman +you kidneys..... and every other internal organ they can harvest. Link to post Share on other sites
muon* 3,285 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Looks like Dual Xeon ASUS server board. Edit: now that I look at reviews it is stated as that board. Very nice thing with heaps of processing power, and I like seeing Duelund caps in there Edited October 11, 2020 by muon* 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmod3 76 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, misternavi said: I never heard of it before and had to search online for more info. Wowsers! The internal layout looks impressive. It's certainly good:-) having said that there is always the other tweak around the corner haha. the taiko is more than the sum of it's individual parts muon. according to a lot of ppl - it's swung many from analogue to digital 1 Link to post Share on other sites
muon* 3,285 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Plasmod3 said: It's certainly good:-) having said that there is always the other tweak around the corner haha. the taiko is more than the sum of it's individual parts muon. according to a lot of ppl - it's swung many from analogue to digital I can see that looking at the blurb and the hardware. Edit: granted some CD players and DACs both old and newer high end and modded have done this with some people also. I have no doubt it does sound very nice indeed. I'm a hardware fancier, so my focus was on that aspect and the reason to find the motherboard used in it Edited October 11, 2020 by muon* Link to post Share on other sites
bob_m_54 1,590 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, muon* said: Looks like Dual Xeon ASUS server board. Edit: now that I look at reviews it is stated as that board. Very nice thing with heaps of processing power, and I like seeing Duelund caps in there Is that blocks of wood in there though? and if so why? just... why? Link to post Share on other sites
Hydrology 2,551 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, bob_m_54 said: Is that blocks of wood in there though? and if so why? just... why? Looks like layered copper. Link to post Share on other sites
Aperalim 724 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hydrology said: Looks like layered copper. I thought it was panzerholz (tankwood)? 1 hour ago, bob_m_54 said: Is that blocks of wood in there though? and if so why? just... why? WHY? Resonance control perhaps? Dissipation of unwanted mechanical resonance? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
bob_m_54 1,590 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Aperalim said: I thought it was panzerholz (tankwood)? WHY? Resonance control perhaps? Dissipation of unwanted mechanical resonance? Absorbing moisture, swelling... Timber doesn't belong inside musical gear.. timbre maybe, but not timber Edited October 11, 2020 by bob_m_54 Link to post Share on other sites
Aperalim 724 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, bob_m_54 said: Timber doesn't belong inside musical gear.. timbre maybe, but not timber Do you understand what panzerholz is? not exactly a standard type of timber... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bob_m_54 1,590 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aperalim said: Do you understand what panzerholz is? not exactly a standard type of timber... I haven't found the piece of equipment yet, to see what it is. What is the brand and model of the item? Looking at a close up of the pic posted above, it certainly looks like organic timber. Link to post Share on other sites
Sime 1,488 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Definitely wood, not copper. Link to post Share on other sites
Aperalim 724 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, bob_m_54 said: Looking at a close up of the pic posted above, it certainly looks like organic timber. I am pretty sure it is Panzerholz. Link to post Share on other sites
Pops110 3,558 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Your on the money Chris. 👍 Edited October 11, 2020 by Pops110 Link to post Share on other sites
bob_m_54 1,590 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Aperalim said: I am pretty sure it is Panzerholz. Yep, phenolic impregnated plywood. Edit: actually not ply, but compressed wood fibres.. Festholz is the plywood version Second Edit: well it could be laminates, but not cross layed as in plywood. I bet it stinks like Phenolic board when you machine it too. I have a 25mm X 500mm X 400mm piece of Phenolic board in the back of the shed somewhere, which is made similarly, except instead of timber plys, it uses cotton fabric. Edited October 11, 2020 by bob_m_54 Link to post Share on other sites
frednork 1,201 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Taiko are all over the Panzeholz, the manufacturer is part of this thread https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/panzerholz-its-application-in-audio-systems.29360/ Link to post Share on other sites
Aperalim 724 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bob_m_54 said: well it could be laminates, but not cross layed as in plywood. I bet it stinks like Phenolic board when you machine it too. I have a 25mm X 500mm X 400mm piece of Phenolic board in the back of the shed somewhere, which is made similarly, except instead of timber plys, it uses cotton fabric. I have been using various implementations of Panzerholz in my system since 2010 after meeting Rainier Weber from Kaiser Acoustics in Germany who pioneered its use in constructing the extraordinary cabinets for his outstanding Kawero speakers. I use it in its laminated form in equipment supports like the Pyon Sounds supports like the Spira – see attached. Edited October 11, 2020 by Aperalim duplicated images deleted 4 Link to post Share on other sites
bob_m_54 1,590 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I have an old Zwilling chef's knife that uses a similar product for the handle, except in black. Link to post Share on other sites
Be Quiet...Listen 958 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 A quick snap from a visit to a dear friends. He has some seriously good sound going on currently I can tell you! 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bunno77 1,528 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Be Quiet...Listen said: A quick snap from a visit to a dear friends. He has some seriously good sound going on currently I can tell you! That's the way to do it with 4 drastically different speakers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmod3 76 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 panzerholtz is quite amazing:-) i always wondered how we can get this in australia Link to post Share on other sites
Be Quiet...Listen 958 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bunno77 said: That's the way to do it with 4 drastically different speakers Absolutely. And he's loving very minute of it! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzzFuzzz 4,075 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Good Evening Folks. There's been some new additions into the fold... three sets of speakers arrived home with me last night, after a whirlwind jaunt to Gosford and Sydney. Two pair were bought second hand from fellow members here... The JBL's from @Galactic Soap, and the TDL's from @spayne59... the Marantz were gifted by my brother, his wife being overjoyed by their removal from the lounge room after some years. They have no grills... and one 15" woofer has holes in it... I really don't blame her for wanting them gone... and I was wrapped to pick up some said 15" woofers. I'm not going into too much detail right now... I've had a day of swapping around and now I'm sitting back listening and typing. It's a modest step up in quality for me... and cool to have a measure of comparison with the speakers I have been messing around with already. Although it's early listening days... my ears must have time to adjust to the new sounds... the speakers I have modified are not lacking as much as I had feared... they actually stand up OK. After a day of listening, I am very keen to finish off my unfinshed sets and get everything presentable, as they will all be in constant rotation. I have more detail with the new speakers, more refined... and I know everything is as it should be... being factory speakers. I think with a few more tweaks on my speaker modifactions, I will have a very diverse and satisfactory range of quality, low end listening options. JBL 4301B Control Monitors. These are first impressions... Flac files through the Rotel amp. I've wanted to hear JBL's as they get good wraps for Rock and Metal. I found them lacking a bit in the bottom end... which is no surprise for a smaller two way. It's strange... as they sound very good in the low end with digital music, which Asiri primarily listens to. Not as big and beefy obviously... but not too shabby, very clear and precise. Maybe they will prefer the TT set up, which I haven't listened to yet. I have thought about making cabinets for the Marantz 15 inchers... maybe a good match with the JBL's. Where these stood out for me though, was with some Leonard Cohen, Nora, Beck and David Grier. In Beck's Morning Phase opening track the echoes were drifting and floating in the air around me. With David Grier's Two Turns Home, sublime, twin violins playing off each other was very impressive. TDL RTL 3's What a wonderful sound from this pair... warm and inviting with punch and feeling. I was a little surprised by the pretty basic crossovers... and I think the first order of business is to upgrade there. A few weeks ago I was ripping CD's to the hard drives. Now, with the addition of the Sony CD deck, I'm burning all my files to CD. I'm currently listeing to CD's through the Rotel into the TDL's. I will get a lot of enjoyment from this set up. I'm very happy with the laid back tunes I've been playing tonight. Anne Bisson's 'Portraits and Perfumes' Carmen Gomez Trio's 'Thousand Shades of Blue' and another listen to Grier's 'Evocative' and right now Ben Ottewell's 'Shapes and Shadows'... just lovely. Marantz LS-20's Salvaged from ex police equipment in Sydney. One woofer requires re-coning... both will be done. I will restore them, they're a bit rough... but may dual purpose the woofers, as mentioned. Sorry 'bout the light... I'll get some tomorrow with the day light. Speakers. Speakers, speakers speakers... speakers... spea... Edited October 14, 2020 by BuzzzFuzzz 17 Link to post Share on other sites
Willmax 1,206 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 @BuzzzFuzzz Variety is the spice of life, glad you are enjoying your new speakers! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tab74 239 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Very basic but i like it. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
blakey72 1,490 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Tab74 said: Very basic but i like it. Can't argue with that Basic can take some beating. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Fro 1,292 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) Awaiting my MBL 101E II speakers! Edited October 15, 2020 by Fro 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Steffen 1,188 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Fro said: Awaiting my MBL 101E II speakers! I wonder where you’re going to place them? 🤣 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
2Brix 1,686 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hmm i remember there was a recent thread about speakers disappearing 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
rockeater 772 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Cooking with GAS! With the newly serviced Wadia 16 being over 20kg, I was not sure if the glass shelf on top of the rack would support it safely. And with the player being so large that none of my small tables was deep enough, I had to use my BBQ stand for it (the BBQ unit itself being away for service). Sounds good. It is the best CD player I have ever had here and I have been fixing CD player for the last 5 years and always have 20+ units in stock. Maybe Krell KPS-28c was close. P.S. Does anyone know how much weight the Bell O'ghetti glass shelves can support? 10 Link to post Share on other sites
muon* 3,285 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'd avoid glass shelving altogether. Link to post Share on other sites
stevoz 5,809 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, muon* said: I'd avoid glass shelving altogether. Yes....isn't 'resonant free' the key to racks and shelving? Wouldn't think that anything glass would achieve this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tab74 239 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 15/10/2020 at 11:44 AM, blakey72 said: Can't argue with that Basic can take some beating. and budget constraints Link to post Share on other sites
mwhouston 5,219 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 After three weeks with a Salt Cellar mono setup I’m back on the Holton and horns in stereo. I’ll probably only last a few weeks and I’ll have to put a SC setup back in. Enjoying both setups for what they bring. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
dwbasement 4,947 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Took my main speakers to my mates to do some measurements for the additional azurahorn last nite. Using my son's 3 inch temporary atm, sounds amazing, would be better if they sit on stands... Edited October 17, 2020 by dwbasement 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mwhouston 5,219 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, dwbasement said: Took my main speakers to my mates to do some measurements for the additional azurahorn last nite. Using my son's 3 inch temporary atm, sounds amazing, would be better if they sit on stands... stands for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Hydrology 2,551 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Todays system highlights - cleaning records and ripping CDs 2 Link to post Share on other sites
2Brix 1,686 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, dwbasement said: Took my main speakers to my mates to do some measurements for the additional azurahorn last nite. Using my son's 3 inch temporary atm, sounds amazing, would be better if they sit on stands... awwww.......Minion Tim (and his brother) 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
Esoterica 455 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) Rearranged my stereo/home theatre lounge room, so I could try ht bypass with my newly acquired I32. Wish I had of known about ht bypass before, but it was a happy accident that I bought the I32 for other reasons and it just happened to have that feature. Seeing as my dwelling is small and the lounge room has been shrunken more with my new stereo setup, I doubt I'll change this setup. I really want to declutter. AVR is in that spot only until I'm happy I've finished with connections, as it's a pain to take it out and in of cubby hole. Edited October 18, 2020 by Esoterica 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Pops110 3,558 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Dust down and slight reposition of speakers. 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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