TerryO Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) Hi everyone, Can I have your thoughts please on Kimber Kable, especially the 8TC and or 8PR versions, plus if anyone has any experience with their Tonic RCA cable and their Coax cable and how they compare thank you? cheers Terry Edited April 1, 2017 by TerryO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronidler Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I have both 4PR and 4TC. Like both and can confirm that the 4TC does sound better - bit more detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesla13BMW Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I use 8TC and find it very good with my ESL57's although to qualify I have tried little else other than some solid silver cables from Aurealis Audio. Trevor from Rage Audio has said that the Kimber 8TC is very good for the ESL57's and therefore I have not really longed to try something different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weka Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I've used 4TC speaker cable and PBJ interconnects (balanced) for a number of years now and consider they provide an excellent performance to price ratio compared to other cables I've tried in much the same price ranges. I'd like to try the KCAG or KCTG silver interconnects but am reluctant to commit without trialing them first. Their cables and construction are based on established engineering principles without the hype and snake oil so typical of many other brands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I use Kimber 8TC For both sections Amp to Crossover Crossover to each driver as hookup The braid design gives them a natural noise shield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Thanks for the feedback guys, I have heard a number of story's about Kimba Kables being the best thing since sliced bread but thought before committing to buy I would ask the collective wisdom here how good they are compared to other similar priced cables. I think I will try the 8tc speaker cables and see how they go, but that won't be for a week or two. I had read that these cables really work best after some serious burning in, is this what others have found? cheers Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesla13BMW Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I didn't find a need for burn in, but, when I fitted mine I had moved to stacked speakers and different amps as well so it was a whole new thing that was growing on me anyway. What I would say is if you can stretch to the 12TC now do so because I think if you get the 8TC you will always be left wanting to know if the 12TC is better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, tesla13BMW said: didn't find a need for burn in, but, when I fitted mine I had moved to stacked speakers and different amps as well so it was a whole new thing that was growing on me anyway. What I would say is if you can stretch to the 12TC now do so because I think if you get the 8TC you will always be left wanting to know if the 12TC is better! I had already wondered about the 'what if' factor regarding 12TC, but I guess the question that came to mind was, is the 12TC better or just overkill when compared to the 8TC? cheers Terry Edited April 7, 2017 by TerryO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weka Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Another option. If you can bi-wire your speakers, a double run of 8TC should outperform a single run of 12TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Unfortunately you can't bi-wire Vieanna Acoustic speakers. cheers Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 8TC is a great cable, used it for many years connecting my Apogees. However I did find that it was not the best at high current delivery. Put them on B&W 802s and something (a lot) was lacking when compared with monster cable. I have since upgraded to Kimber Oracle - a much more suited cable for high current systems. I am now quietly considering bi-wiring with Oracles. RalphH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero1 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) From my personal experience- 4PR -an excellent budget cable, really like it, does everything well & doesn't embarrass itself when used in $$$ systems. 4VS -preferred the 4PR- hard to put my finger on why though not much in it, still a nice cable & id use it happily. 8VS -really nice- great for very slightly taming a bright system, nice detail, excellent bass response. Currently happily in use in my daily driver system. 4TC -slightly more detail than PR/VS, a touch less lower end but controlled. 8TC -a slight step up from 4TC in all areas, better lower end. 12TC -loved it, did everything right across multiple systems, if budget allowed I'd stretch to 12TC over the 8TC no question. Saying that all are excellent cables & I doubt you'd be disappointed whichever choice you made. The Tonic interconnect is not too dissimilar to Kimber PBJ, a nice detailed interconnect, works well with most components, on the relatively lean side depending on the system synergy. I'd possibly shy away from it though if your system tends to be on the bright side (not a fault of the interconnect), Kimber Hero if budget allows is a good step up with more detail & a smoother more natural presentation IMO. I haven't noticed any major difference with cable burn in on any of these, the sound signature is there from the start, however it could be that it happens slowly so might be hard to pick? Even so i'd say if your auditioning cables & don't like how one sounds first off it's unlikely to make a massive difference to how you feel after it has been run in a while. Edited April 9, 2017 by zero1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade74 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I run 4TC. Would love to try some 12TC but only running bookshelves with a 6.5 inch woofer.May not notice a big change??Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero1 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Blade74 said: I run 4TC. Would love to try some 12TC but only running bookshelves with a 6.5 inch woofer. May not notice a big change?? Depends on the system/ears, but if it's going to make a difference you should hear it whether you're running bookshelves or floorstanders. Try and get some loan cables to demo at home if you've got a local store that stocks it nearby, that way your not out of pocket if you don't like them or the difference isn't noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjay Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) I run Kimber BiFocal XL's to my speakers and Kimber Select KS-1130 XLR's between my pre/power/dac. I stopped looking at cable upgrades when I got to that level as I was finally satisfied with the presentation of the music. Kimber is very under rated IMHO. Edited April 9, 2017 by sjay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade74 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Can you go too big on speaker cables?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arni Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I am using 8TC as well and stop looking at upgrading until now i wonder what 12TC would sound like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankn Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Anyone using / have tried KS - 1116, 1126 or 1136 XLR (or RCA) interconnects? Comments? i saw from a search that @Smp sold two pairs of 1136's a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryO Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, frankn said: Anyone using / have tried KS - 1116, 1126 or 1136 XLR (or RCA) interconnects? Comments? i saw from a search that @Smp sold two pairs of 1136's a while back. i actually contacted SMP and even though he had sold some of his cables he still holds Kimber Kables in high regard. I will now have to wait a while though before I get a set as I just bought secondhand a Primaluna Integrated amp and it came with a set of these speaker cables. http://www.analysis-plus.com/product/home-audio/speaker-cables/black-mesh-oval-9/ I should have the amp and cables here and hooked up on Sunday so can't wait to hear what this combination sounds like. cheers Terry Edited April 20, 2017 by TerryO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smp Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, frankn said: Anyone using / have tried KS - 1116, 1126 or 1136 XLR (or RCA) interconnects? Comments? i saw from a search that @Smp sold two pairs of 1136's a while back. For sake of good order,they were two pairs of 1036's - rca/rca. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalhome Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm running 8PR at the moment and very happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesla13BMW Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Received the latest Russ Andrews booklet and really like the idea of the VS (varistrand). Silver and copper at different gauges in the same bundle. Just makes sense really. I'd love to try it, but two pairs of 2m is too much to spend on a punt that it will be significantly better than 8TC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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