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(This discussion, has been migrated from @Sir Triode's Affordable Ultrasonic RCM from Poland thread.)

 

This project was inspired by @EV Cali's DIY machine & advice from biochemist guest110 on Audiokarma.

 

Based on the same 6L China-made Ultrasonic cleaner tank (avail on ebay.au), with a bit of engineering input, we rigged up a simple & affordable-to-manufacture prototype, using sheet stainless steel, a locally avail inexpensive rotisserie motor (same as @EV Cali's), a rod, spacers & a couple of record clamp nuts.  here's the prototype running.....

 

 

Cheers, Owen

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And looking at eBay there are wire record holders which cost you at least $50 shipped. What a rip off.   I thought there must be something that looks similar in the Officeworks...and they ha

Just thought i would share my set up...

Hi Andrew,   Re. vacuum dry vs. air dry ... and the (good) effect of using a 1-micron filter: this long weekend, I finally got my 1 micron filter working (with a 12v DC pump), with my

A bit more info:

 

 

Fluid mix:

For starters, I'm using a water + Triton X-100 detergent/surfactant concentrate.  (I haven't checked if this is avail downunder, mine came from USA via a pal).


Drying:

So far, in our low 20's C summer weather, using a water + detergent/surfactant mix, then air-drying is fast. (20-30 min?)

Plain water doesn't film over the vinyl & takes much longer to dry. .I have a vacuum RCM but have not bothered using it for drying after US cleaning.

Right now, I'm using just carbon-filtered (drinking) water.

 

Static:

Vinyl is a poor conductor but water is a good conductor, so simply rinsing will reduce static. Wiping a record, is not such a good thing, if you want to avoid static-electricity.  And I believe that it is good to use a non-ionic, neutral pH detergent for starters, to avoid residual static charge.

 

(There is also a theory that a thin residual film of detergent left on the vinyl, after cleaning, aids groove tracing - I have to say it certainly sounds that way, signif more dynamic range, more energy..... )

 

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Hi @rocl444 - I am avoiding alcohols for starters, so I do a 10% mix-down first as best as you can (it does not dissolve easily in water) - leave in frig overnight for it to dissolve - pretty much as per guest110's advice below:

 

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....one easy method is to just mix a teaspoon of 100% Triton with a teaspoon of distilled water and work it in slowly to dissolve. Gradually keep adding more teaspoons of distilled water and mixing until a total of 9 teaspoons have been added (roughly a 10% detergent stock). I keep this 10% stock in a used dish soap bottle  You want a final concentration of detergent around 0.1 to 0.2% so this 10% stock gets diluted 50 to 100-fold in the final working wash solution.

 

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As said, in order to make it economical (for us & any other semi-DIYers) we are going to laser-cut a small batch, rather than one-off fabricate.

If interested, there will be some postage & you will have to buy the cleaner (ebay.au A$172 - 253) & motor (Kogan A$25)..

 

The cleaner that I purchased:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Digital-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-6L-Stainless-Steel-Heater-Timer-Industrial-Grade-6L-/302040010527

(Note - 240v version.)

 

Let me know or PM if you might like to join.

 

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The baseplate comes in 3 pcs, with in-built nuts for super-easy assembly (just 4 screws, 1 allen key needed), attach the motor (3 screws), slide whole assembly onto the tank, done.
Load the records & spacers, insert into motor drive, drop into the tank.
Switch on motor, switch on tank, set timer, start.
(No heating.)

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Learnerd friends, it is now time for me to ask some advice.

 

I have now got myself a DIY US cleaner.

Brilliant Rotator from  @Maggie    and a garden variety 10L US from evil bay.

 

Cleaned a bunch of records today.

Water, 5% Isoprop, 5mls of rinse aid and 5 mls of liquid laundry detergent.

Water @ 40 Degrees

Cycle time of 15 minutes.

Air dried

 

Not stunned or amazed with the results. Certainly no "inky black quietness"

 

I still get a few crackles and pops, and also some kind of "groove rubbing" noise in places, on some records.

Others are quieter, but still not silent.

 

 

Am I missing something or are some records just "noisy"  ??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Leinster Lad said:

Learnerd friends, it is now time for me to ask some advice.

 

I have now got myself a DIY US cleaner.

Brilliant Rotator from  @Maggie    and a garden variety 10L US from evil bay.

 

Cleaned a bunch of records today.

Water, 5% Isoprop, 5mls of rinse aid and 5 mls of liquid laundry detergent.

Water @ 40 Degrees

Cycle time of 15 minutes.

Air dried

 

Not stunned or amazed with the results. Certainly no "inky black quietness"

 

I still get a few crackles and pops, and also some kind of "groove rubbing" noise in places, on some records.

Others are quieter, but still not silent.

 

 

Am I missing something or are some records just "noisy"  ??

 

I would say "stunned and amazed" is probably going too far ,in regard to what result you can expect. Pleasantly surprised is more likely.:)

 

An Ultrasonic cleaner will not repair damage or improve the original recording,it will only remove dirt and contaminants on old records and release agent on new records.

If the record looks undamaged and there are still a few pop and crackles, give it one more go and see if that gives further improvement.

Some records are "noisy" but I notice the first record on your rotator is DSOTM and Floyd pressings are normally very good and silent. 

 

Some of what you are still hearing could be caused by your stylus or arm / cart set up.

 

I am in Queensland and after a record has been breathed on and touched a number of times over a thirty to forty year period, the humidity can help form a film of mould and muck on the surface of the records.

Cleaning with a URC will bring a big improvement to these records making the sound fuller and quieter.

Also I recently purchased a new 12" 45 single by John Butler ,whose recordings are normally of a high quality ,plus as a 45 there was lots of room for the grooves.

When I played it there was background hiss the entire length of the recording. To say the least I was extremely disappointed, cleaning with my URC removed all of the hiss.

 

I use more or less the same cleaning  procedure as yourself apart from the liquid laundry detergent. I would not use liquid laundry detergent as I do not believe it is needed and it may introduce contaminants that stay on the records and give some noise.

 

I also note you have gone for the 10L bath when most of us are using the cheaper 6L that your  Rotator is intended for. Not really a problem but you are using a lot more chemicals without gaining the advantages of being able to clean more records at a time or more space between the records that the 10L bath could give.

 

My experience is cleaning with a URC  is definitely worth the effort and reasonable cost and I am now reluctant to play a record I have not yet cleaned with the ultrasonic bath.  

 

 

 

 

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Hi @Leinster Lad - good work - however i would echo @EV Cali's thoughts here - 

 

In particular, Liquid Laundry Detergent I believe can contain, in addition to surfactant/detergent & enzymes - strong bleach chemicals, optical whiteners, bulking/binding agents, fragrances, etc.

 

Best avoided - get yourself some Triton X-100 concentrate or similar.

 

Rinse Aid is not needed if you have detergent, it probably has other chemicals also best avoided, eg for removal of lime deposits.

 

Heating is not absolutely necessary in a US cleaner, the cavitation process tends to heat the fluid anyway I've found, maybe 5-10deg C over 15mins.

 

If older/used records, some clicks, pops, scratches, will of course not be removed by any cleaner, ie. vinyl damage, but mostly removed I've found, or reduced. Sometimes multiple or longer duration cleans are beneficial.

 

Cheers, Owen

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@Leinster Lad  Some records are inherently noisy.  You can minimise the noise, but you'll never get rid of it.  Some records are produced exceptionally well and will play without a hint of noise.  Most fall somewhere in between.

 

My experience is that all of them are improved by cleaning in an US cleaner.  The results are significantly improved (and often drastically improved) by running the still wet records fresh out of an US cleaner through a vacuum type RCM.  I tried letting records air dry when I first got my US cleaner - let's face it, it's less work - but now I run them all through my Record Doctor V after a bath.  I reckon the US cleaner loosens the crud, the RCM sucks it away from the grooves.  See if you can borrow one to try for yourself.  I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 

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Thanks @ABG and @Owen Y

I cleaned a bunch more records today, difference being that I did not turn on the inbuilt heater and cleaned for 30 minutes per cycle.

Records are much quieter ( some still not perfect ) so generally happy with the results now.

 

Over the coming few batches i'll experiment with "the brew" and yes, having the 10L tank certainly uses more ingredient ( but in the scheme of things, it is really not much )

 

And I can see why some people are exploring a filter set-up !

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1 hour ago, ABG said:

@Leinster Lad  Some records are inherently noisy.  You can minimise the noise, but you'll never get rid of it.  Some records are produced exceptionally well and will play without a hint of noise.  Most fall somewhere in between.

 

My experience is that all of them are improved by cleaning in an US cleaner.  The results are significantly improved (and often drastically improved) by running the still wet records fresh out of an US cleaner through a vacuum type RCM.  I tried letting records air dry when I first got my US cleaner - let's face it, it's less work - but now I run them all through my Record Doctor V after a bath.  I reckon the US cleaner loosens the crud, the RCM sucks it away from the grooves.  See if you can borrow one to try for yourself.  I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 

 

I absolutely concur.

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14 hours ago, ABG said:

@Leinster Lad  Some records are inherently noisy.  You can minimise the noise, but you'll never get rid of it.  Some records are produced exceptionally well and will play without a hint of noise.  Most fall somewhere in between.

 

My experience is that all of them are improved by cleaning in an US cleaner.  The results are significantly improved (and often drastically improved) by running the still wet records fresh out of an US cleaner through a vacuum type RCM.  I tried letting records air dry when I first got my US cleaner - let's face it, it's less work - but now I run them all through my Record Doctor V after a bath.  I reckon the US cleaner loosens the crud, the RCM sucks it away from the grooves.  See if you can borrow one to try for yourself.  I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 

 

Yes vacuuming is worth doing for sure.

 

OK if your live in a static-prone environment, then maybe you need to take care with any friction-brush type vacuum m/c on your records.

Also, I know we're driven to obsession about water purity, but a (filtered tap) water rinse after cleaning can only be beneficial - followed by vacuuming if you like.

 

Cheers, Owen

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31 minutes ago, Owen Y said:

 

Am interested in results from anyone filtering their tank fluid - say using paper coffee filters or something more sophisticated.

 

Cheers, Owen

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Hi Owen,

 

I use a fish tank filter (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Aquarium-External-Canister-Filter-Aqua-Fish-Water-Tank-Sponge-Pond-400L-H-/131374919147?rmvSB=true) based on advice provided by a fellow SNA'er and info I read on the VPI forums.  Every time I change the water, I clean out the filter.  The amount of black crud that comes out makes me glad I'm using it.  Cheap insurance against those pieces of crud potentially sandblasting my records during the cavitation process.

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Minor update:
Sorry about delay, some spacers have arrived, enough for a quite few cleaner kits.

These are semi-soft spacers, which should work well, without damaging record labels.

We have had some discussion here about the size of the spacers.
Record labels are 100mm diameter.
These spacers are around 75mm diameter.
After testing, we chose these smaller spacers, ie not same diameter as the record label - as splashed water tends to be drawn up unseen by capillary action between label & spacer. In practice, we think it's better that the record label is always visible, as it's easier to adjust water level to suit.

Laser cutting of 1st batch of stainless metalwork should be done within a week.
Injection-moulding, for the plastic driver adapter for the motor shaft, should be close behind.

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Hi Owen, I would consider getting at least one spacer that's 100mm and use that to adjust your water level rather than using your record labels.  It's something you'll be doing on an almost daily basis in summer - you'd be surprised how much water evaporates in warmer weather - and I wouldn't want to be using my record labels as a depth gauge.  Mine has a mark showing the level it needs to be filled up, but I still fine tune the level with the spacer and no record on mine.  Despite all the precautions, I still occasionally get a bit of water on the labels.  Most of the time I just wipe it off with no harm done.  Occasionally it causes the label to slightly bubble (maybe 1% of the records I clean).  I consider it a small price to pay for having clean records with minimal effort.

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Fair enough.

But I would just use your eyes to gauge water level - it doesn't need to be super close to label, say 5mm min.

There could be some dirt, residual noise at the  end of the runout groove but....it doesn't matter.

Haven't wet a label yet  ;)

 

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I still reckon the spacers should cover the full label, or if not then why not just have them at say 20mm? 

 

Wouldn't that be cheaper than a 75mm spacer?

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2 hours ago, Citroen said:

I still reckon the spacers should cover the full label, or if not then why not just have them at say 20mm? 

 

Wouldn't that be cheaper than a 75mm spacer?

 

You need to 'grip' the record as it turns & a decent diam spacer does this better, with less clamp force.

 

Also, there's the question what's readily available in the right material, at reasonable cost & minimum labour input.

 

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Chaps - for those awaiting completion of kits - I'm pleased to report that first batch of stainless steel laser-cuts arrived today, also pre-folded.

Rivnuts to be fitted & we'll dble-check correct fit this weekend.

 

Just the drive-coupler moulding part to come, then ready to ship.

Thanks for your patience everyone.

 

Cheers, Owen

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On 4/9/2017 at 7:22 PM, Owen Y said:

 

You need to 'grip' the record as it turns & a decent diam spacer does this better, with less clamp force.

 

Also, there's the question what's readily available in the right material, at reasonable cost & minimum labour input.

 

Cheers, Owen

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How much for a set of the spacers? The gherkin jar lids on my Polski USM are killing me!

 

Agreed that the labels don't need protecting, the film of cleaning fluid doesn't run or drip on to the labels. I run with the labels about 8mm above the bath fluid level. Actually I haven't wet a label since I graduated from cleaning records over the kitchen sink.

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6 hours ago, enikoy said:

 

How much for a set of the spacers? The gherkin jar lids on my Polski USM are killing me!

 

Agreed that the labels don't need protecting, the film of cleaning fluid doesn't run or drip on to the labels. I run with the labels about 8mm above the bath fluid level. Actually I haven't wet a label since I graduated from cleaning records over the kitchen sink.

 

Hi @enikoy - we're just assembling a small batch of these & not really a commercial enterprise with stocks of parts avail, sorry.

 

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A bit of overtime in the engineering shop ;)  & the injection moulding is done - drive couplers moulded in ABS plastic (below).

 

The trial rivnuts in the metalwork were a bit tight fit on the tank, so the remainder will be installed a touch shorter.

 

Everything is to hand now, we'll be ready to ship next week.

 

Cheers, Owen

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I've been watching the various DIY Ultrasonic cleaners for the past few years or so with great interest.

 

Almost got one bought over from USA, but even with free transport cost (via a US visiting relative) the lp holder/spinner still seemed too expensive.

 

Owen's version is much more affordable!

 

It is designed for one model of US cleaner, and one model of lp rotater only. However, these two are very commonly available worldwide.

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It also packs up to a small footprint when you've finished cleaning.

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@Owen Y Just an after thought, with 4 lps its a bit of a tight fit getting them in, as you do need to angle the spindle (and hence the stack of lps) to get the drive coupler in position.

 

If it was a vertical drop in place, it would be much easier with 4 lps and possibly even with 5, given the spacer widths.

 

Cleaning should be uniform as the gap between the records is the same, just more lps being cleaned at once, cf narrower spacers, which could possibly reduce cleaning ability.

 

If the support had a cut out, then vertically dropping the stack of lps in place would be easier. Not sure about the structural integrity but should be oK given the bottom is still in tact. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 31/03/2017 at 8:36 PM, ABG said:

 

My experience is that all of them are improved by cleaning in an US cleaner.  The results are significantly improved (and often drastically improved) by running the still wet records fresh out of an US cleaner through a vacuum type RCM.  I tried letting records air dry when I first got my US cleaner - let's face it, it's less work - but now I run them all through my Record Doctor V after a bath.  I reckon the US cleaner loosens the crud, the RCM sucks it away from the grooves.  See if you can borrow one to try for yourself.  I reckon you'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Re. vacuum dry vs. air dry ... and the (good) effect of using a 1-micron filter:

  • this long weekend, I finally got my 1 micron filter working (with a 12v DC pump), with my Sonix IV US tank.
  • first, I listened to an LP which had been cleaned using the (previous) aquarium filter ... but not vacuumed dry.
  • then I re-cleaned it with the 1-micron filter in circuit ... then blow-dried it.
  • result - quieter!  :thumb:
  • I then re-washed it in the US tank for a couple of minutes - and then used my NG to vacuum it dry.
  • result - no quieter:party

So AFAIAC, using the 1-micron filter takes out all the crap which was in suspension in the water - which was previously resting in the bottom of the grooves with the liquid ... so was still there when the liquid dried (unless I vacuumed it out) and which caused the LP to be noisy.

 

Removing this crap in suspension results in a quiet record - so the 1-micron filter is doing a much better job than the aquarium filter.  So I no longer need to vacuum dry each side.  :thumb:

 

So my US cleaning setup consists of the following:

 

Unfortunately, I sourced these from Amazon - which I hate with a passion, as they don't offer any way of getting in touch with them to ask questions - but I know you can search eBay for the same pump.

 

Plus the following items from www.ultrasonic records.com:

  • 2 spindles with spacers (to take 6 LPs) and a gear wheel.  One spacer for the LPs in the US tank, the 2nd for LPs which are being blow-dried.
  • a frame with a slow-rotation motor, to hold the spindle at just the right height above the US tank.
  • a "Blower Cube" - a box with a powerful fan (and a lid) to blow-dry the LPs.  Unfortunately, this is not 100% effective, as supplied - I had to fit a slow-rev motor to turn the LPs in the airstream ... and I think it would be good to rig up some ceramic resistors in the base of the Cube, to provide a warming effect on the airstream.

 

So it's not a budget setup - but I believe it cleans just as well - if not better than - the commercial "all-in-one" units and I get to clean 6 LPs at a time.  :D

 

And my liquid mixture is: 7.8l of distilled water / 400ml of 99% IPA / 8ml of Ilfotrol.

 

Andy

 

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2 hours ago, Citroen said:

@Owen Y Just an after thought, with 4 lps its a bit of a tight fit getting them in, as you do need to angle the spindle (and hence the stack of lps) to get the drive coupler in position.

 

If it was a vertical drop in place, it would be much easier with 4 lps and possibly even with 5, given the spacer widths.

 

Cleaning should be uniform as the gap between the records is the same, just more lps being cleaned at once, cf narrower spacers, which could possibly reduce cleaning ability.

 

If the support had a cut out, then vertically dropping the stack of lps in place would be easier. Not sure about the structural integrity but should be oK given the bottom is still in tact. 

 

Thanks @Citroen - good feedback, will think on that one.

 

My initial thoughts:

- the square drive spigot is around 13mm long, inserted inside the mtr drive hole.

- plus the stainless plate is around 9mm clear outside the motor drive.

- so you need to slide the shaft horizontally out of the motor drive at least 22mm before it clears the plate & can be lifted vertically out.

 

Thus, as long as the outer record is at least 22mm inside the outer tank wall, a 4-record stack should be able to be placed & removable as above.

Does that sound workable?

 

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On further consideration:

- a 4-record stack with 3 spacers, should be no more than around 83mm wide.

- the tank down at record depth, should be around 130 - 135mm wide.

- so there should be around 24mm clearance each side (this can of course also be varied ea side using the clamp knobs).

 

So, there should be adequate clearance to slide & lift vertically out without problems.

 

The other strategy, as mentioned, is to mount the motor hard against the plate without the plastic spacers (the spacers can go on the plate outer & the tank lid should just fit under) - this way, horiz clearance needed is reduced from 22mm to 13mm.

(Or use shorter screws, omit the spacers.)

 

Cheers, Owen

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The tank is curved at the corners, so the outer lps need to be a few centimeters in from either long edge.

Otherwise they hit the tank.

 

I'll try omitting or moving the spacers. Or just do three at a time :)

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4 hours ago, andyr said:

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Re. vacuum dry vs. air dry ... and the (good) effect of using a 1-micron filter:

  • this long weekend, I finally got my 1 micron filter working (with a 12v DC pump), with my Sonix IV US tank.
  • first, I listened to an LP which had been cleaned using the (previous) aquarium filter ... but not vacuumed dry.
  • then I re-cleaned it with the 1-micron filter in circuit ... then blow-dried it.
  • result - quieter!  :thumb:
  • I then re-washed it in the US tank for a couple of minutes - and then used my NG to vacuum it dry.
  • result - no quieter:party

So AFAIAC, using the 1-micron filter takes out all the crap which was in suspension in the water - which was previously resting in the bottom of the grooves with the liquid ... so was still there when the liquid dried (unless I vacuumed it out) and which caused the LP to be noisy.

 

 

Andy,

Your conclusion may well be correct.

 

Or the second reclean may just have removed all the remaining dirt from the grooves, so if you had done a second aquarium filter clean you also could have gotten it to sound quieter.

A rewash (3rd time cleaning) may also have resulted in no quieter with aquarium filter, as its already as clean as its going to get. ;)

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8 hours ago, Citroen said:

The tank is curved at the corners, so the outer lps need to be a few centimeters in from either long edge.

Otherwise they hit the tank.

 

Hi @Citroen - yes the tank has curved  bott corners & also tapered sides, however, I have taken these into account.

A 4-record stack should work fine - just slide shaft sideways first out of the motor & then lift vertically - see below.

 

Additionally, you can simply offset the records on the shaft slightly towards the motor, by adjusting the clamp knobs.

 

Cheers, Owen

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      Item Condition: Very good Shipping Options: Pickup available but audition is not available.,Shipping is available at agreed cost. Suburb or Town: Glen Waverley State: Victoria Payment Method: Paypal, EFT, Cash on pick up. Reason for selling: NLR Further information:
      Knosti Record cleaning machine, fantastic unit and very good for restoring vinyl .
      Bought a few years ago from Audio Trends.
      Supplied with full 1Lt bottle of record cleaning liquid
       
       
      Not only is it remarkably good at cleaning your LPs but it's quick and easy to use and there's none of the noise and palaver associated with more elaborate alternatives. It's by far the cheapest wet cleaner on the market and to be frank, it's as effective as any other." Hi Fi Choice

      "The results were visually impressive. All visible finger marks and dirt had been removed leaving a satisfyingly glossy surface. Before and after playings proved that this system does a good job. Surface noise was drastically reduced and clarity improved to a surprising extent." Hi Fi News

      "We can't recommend this gadget too highly." AV Review
       

      Revive Your Vinyl Collection. Record Washing Machine. Helps Minimise Static. Removes Dirt & Dries Residue Free. Does Not Require Power. Easy To Use. Very Economical. Replacement 1 Litre Refills available. Made In Germany.  
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    • By betty boop
      folks, considering an ultrasonic record cleaner... of the more affordable variety... I am not planning to spend on one costing the same as a turntable.
       
      And with more than my own share of home projects going on and plenty on the to do list no interest to be dong anything DIY in this regard.
       
      So what are folks experience with Affordable ultrasonic record cleaning machines of the non DIY variety ...
       
      theres this nobsound one on amazon - any thoughts or experience ? 
      nobsound on amazon
       
      dont want to get one and find a waste of cash ? last thing world needs is more land fill
       
      any good experiences with anything out there (non DIY - please and affordable)
       
       
    • By Goatboy
      Item: Okki Nokki MKI  MKII RCM (White)
      Location: Blue Mountains, Sydney
      Price: $520
      Item Condition: Excellent
      Reason for selling: NLR
      Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only
      Extra Info:
       
      EDIT: This is a MKII and not a MK1, as I first thought. This means it is manufactured in China (not Germany) and has a plastic instead of metal wand. Apologies for any confusion caused !
       
      For sale is a MK II Okki Nokki record cleaner, purchased in 2014 from Krispy Audio. Included in the sale are wands for 12” and 7” records, a clamp, and dust cover. The cover and 7” wand are additional purchases and retail for $115 and $75 respectively, and the 7" wand is unused. The dust cover is a must IMO, as keeping dust from a RCM is pretty important !
       
      The unit has seen mild to moderate use, and there are months where it’s barely used. 
       
      For anyone not familiar with the Okki Nokki, it is a wet - vacuum cleaning system, and works by first agitating debris from the record as it rotates via a brush placed along the grooves. After a few rotations (the unit has forward and reverse) the wand vacuums the liquid away, leaving you with a clean and hopefully crackle and pop - free record. It can’t perform miracles and fix a record retrieved from a dumpster, but for gunk, mould, fingerprints etc... it does a good job.  And with the debris and detritus new records come with, it’s a good idea to clean everything, not just 2nd hand purchases. Your needle will thank you. 
       
      A few months after I received the unit, it had an issue with the vacuum cleaner which was easily fixed by a fuse replacement and was a common problem with this model. It has been trouble - free ever since. 
       
      The original brush is long gone, so you’ll need to grab something suitable. There are plenty of options, and of course you’ll need to arm yourself with a record cleaning concoction. 
      I’ll also throw in a back - up set of spare velvet strips, which attach to the 12” wand and should be changed about every 50 records. 
       
      Shipping is possible as I have the box for the unit, however I don’t have one for the dust cover and so preference is given to local pick-up.

       
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    • By Paul-H
      Item: RCM Sensor 2 Phono stage + Kuzma Stabi-S Turntable (with PS2 speed controller) + Stogi-S Tonearm + Lyra Delos Cart
      Location: Mount Martha VIC, 3934
      Price:
      RCM SENSOR 2 = $3800  - SOLD (TT still available)
      KUZMA STABI-S TT + STOGI-S tonearm + PS2 Upgraded Power supply + LYRA DELOS MC Cartridge = $6750
      (comes with free perspex dust cover, as per photos)
      Package Deal: $10K (RRP for this setup is approx 15K. Please note I prefer to sell this whole package COMPLETE)
      Item Condition: 9.5/10
      Reason for selling: Have purchased a new car and need funds for that.
      Payment Method: Cash on Pickup or Bank Deposit. Paypal is my last preference and you will need to pay an extra 3%.
      Preference given to local pickup VIC buyers.
      I can send interstate at buyers expense, but very much prefer not to because of risk of damage.
      Extra Info: I bought these last year from Sonic Purity in May 2018, so this gear is approx 1 year old.
      The sale is somewhat regrettable, however I have other priorities now.
      The RCM Sensor 2 phono stage is magic and extracts every detail from the Cartridge while giving strong bass.
      (Has Furutech Connections, and external latest power supply)
      There are many reviews online about the phono stage and many who have heard it will confirm its high reputation.
      It has a multitude of loading and gain options.
      https://sonicpurity.com.au/store/phono-stages/rcm-sensor-2
      The Kuzma Turntable is equally amazing in sound and build quality.
      Latest 2018 30mm thick platter!
      https://sonicpurity.com.au/store/turntables/kuzma-stabi-s
      It has the upgraded power supply which means you don't need to change pulleys etc to change the speed.
      The speed controller has a digital display.
      It comes with Stogi-S tonearm, and LYRA DELOS cartridge. (has had little use, but is run in. I honestly don't know the hours)
      Those who know this cartridge can tell you that its super detailed in the high frequencies and still has gorgeous midrange and strong bass.
      Cartridge azimuth has been painstakingly set up by Rom at Sonic purity, using computer software.
      I look after my equipment with a lot of care and live in a smoke free / pet free home.
      Auditions are welcome at my home only for SERIOUS BUYERS.
      Upon sale I always make donations to SNA.
      Thanks for watching.
      Cheers,
      Paul.
      Happy Easter to all.
       
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