Mat-with-one-t Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Hi all. I have a great Pro-Ject 6.1 I've had since new. Having recently been spinning some brand new vinyl, I was getting the impression some of the pressings were actually warped, however I reckon the felt mat is now a bit misshapen and dodgy. I have read all sorts of debates about cork vs rubber vs felt. I am happy to try any of these (or the various combos), or just replace the felt for the same again. Oh, as an aside, how do people wash these felt mats? Mine seems to collect a bit of dust (especially since the stock cover doesn't actually fully cover the unit!!). I have an Ortofon MC10 Super (and I'd love to try a Hana SL one day....). Everything else is stock. I've read good things about these - http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm Would love to hear suggestions for a replacement, especially from those with 1st hand experience (given variances between setups). Mat Edited March 21, 2017 by Mat-with-one-t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Try suede or leather......lower resonance, plus less static = less dust. Here's some links: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Analogue-Studio-Leather-Turntable-Platter-Mat-Red-/291803762263?hash=item43f0dc0e57:g:CmkAAOSwkNZUgI6g (this one is also available in black), and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leather-Turntable-Platter-Mat-Upgrade-/321066623905?hash=item4ac10fe3a1:g:60wAAOxyjK1RDgVn and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leather-Turntable-Platter-Slip-Mat-Black-Genuine-Leather-/252053772952?hash=item3aaf935a98:g:NYkAAOSwLVZVyhj9 and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tonar-Black-Leather-Platter-Mat-/301970804040?hash=item464edccd48:g:vPYAAOSwMHdXTVym or this Project branded one here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Ject-LEATHER-IT-vinyl-record-turntable-platter-anti-static-mat-Brand-New-/281938739064?hash=item41a4dbbf78:g:t7cAAOSwKtVWxRjB Unfortunately the suede type I got from Germany for $27 all up (bargain) are not listed anymore. Good luck! Edited March 21, 2017 by stevoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbo Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The old 6.1. What a unique turntable in its day. Platter could be warped mate. See if one of those Acrylic upgrade platters from Project will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Wimbo said: The old 6.1. What a unique turntable in its day. Platter could be warped mate. See if one of those Acrylic upgrade platters from Project will fit. Good point. I'll have a closer look with a straight edge.... I have access to machining. What would be best material if I were to make one? Would weight have to be the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 2 hours ago, stevoz said: Try suede or leather......lower resonance, plus less static = less dust. Here's some links: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Analogue-Studio-Leather-Turntable-Platter-Mat-Red-/291803762263?hash=item43f0dc0e57:g:CmkAAOSwkNZUgI6g (this one is also available in black), and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leather-Turntable-Platter-Mat-Upgrade-/321066623905?hash=item4ac10fe3a1:g:60wAAOxyjK1RDgVn and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leather-Turntable-Platter-Slip-Mat-Black-Genuine-Leather-/252053772952?hash=item3aaf935a98:g:NYkAAOSwLVZVyhj9 and here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tonar-Black-Leather-Platter-Mat-/301970804040?hash=item464edccd48:g:vPYAAOSwMHdXTVym or this Project branded one here: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Ject-LEATHER-IT-vinyl-record-turntable-platter-anti-static-mat-Brand-New-/281938739064?hash=item41a4dbbf78:g:t7cAAOSwKtVWxRjB Unfortunately the suede type I got from Germany for $27 all up (bargain) are not listed anymore. Good luck! Wow thanks. Some evening reading to be done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, Mat-with-one-t said: Wow thanks. Some evening reading to be done.... Won't take long, they're just ebay ad's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebediah Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Love the acrylic platter on my Carbon...not sure if it would fit the 6.1 tho...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Jebediah said: Love the acrylic platter on my Carbon...not sure if it would fit the 6.1 tho...? https://www.projectaudio.com.au/collections/accessories/products/acryl-it-turntable-platter ill have to measure mine and check the weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregWormald Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 If it's just the mat then I highly recommend the suede option. As long as you have a decent pair of scissors suede should be readily available locally. I made one for a Linn that clearly out performed the felt mat and was almost indistinguishable to the Herbies. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, GregWormald said: If it's just the mat then I highly recommend the suede option. As long as you have a decent pair of scissors suede should be readily available locally. I made one for a Linn that clearly out performed the felt mat and was almost indistinguishable to the Herbies. Greg Cool. I have some lying around so I'll give it a try! Thanks. oh - fuzz up or down? Edited March 23, 2017 by Mat-with-one-t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregWormald Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Mat-with-one-t said: Cool. I have some lying around so I'll give it a try! Thanks. oh - fuzz up or down? Try both ways. I have seen recommendations for both fuzz up and fuzz down. The suede I used had "fuzz" on both sides, so I had nothing to try. Greg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, GregWormald said: Try both ways. I have seen recommendations for both fuzz up and fuzz down. The suede I used had "fuzz" on both sides, so I had nothing to try. Greg 33 minutes ago, Mat-with-one-t said: Cool. I have some lying around so I'll give it a try! Thanks. oh - fuzz up or down? A friend of mine who continuously experiments with mats supplied me with a suede mat - fuzz side up, he said. But then he came back and told me to put it 'leather side' up - and it sounded better! Then he said ... cut the central circle out (where the record label is) and it will sound even better! And it did! Andy PS: Don't forget to adjust VTA if your leather mat is thicker than whatever you were using before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregWormald Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, andyr said: A friend of mine who continuously experiments with mats supplied me with a suede mat - fuzz side up, he said. But then he came back and told me to put it 'leather side' up - and it sounded better! Then he said ... cut the central circle out (where the record label is) and it will sound even better! And it did! Andy PS: Don't forget to adjust VTA if your leather mat is thicker than whatever you were using before. My suede mat certainly sounded better when I reduced the thickness of the label and rim areas so the mat supported the playing surface. Greg Edited March 23, 2017 by GregWormald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Cool. Thanks guys. I'll dig through the missus' textile supplies or visit a local upholsterer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Actually, as suggested, I watched the platter carefully, and it may well be the case that it is slightly warped! Wouldn't have thought it possible given it's a pretty hefty hunk of metal. Is there anything that can be done about this? The sound seems really good, but one can certainly see the needle having to track up and down on each revolution. Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat-with-one-t Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) ....do I need to replace the platter with same weight and thickness? Total is 3045g (platter+glass+felt), andas I understand it, loading has to be pretty same same due to the 6.1's suspension system..... Edited April 2, 2017 by Mat-with-one-t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DET Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Hi Mat, I noticed this old thread. I have just acquired a Pro-Ject 6 (seems almost identical to 6.1) it has badly warped platter, to the extent that the underside contacts the top of the pulley. I have replaced it with a heavy steel Pro-Ject platter with the original glass on top and a cork mat so there was no need to adjust VTA. It sounds quite good with a Goldring 1012GX but wondering if you came up with a better solution for a replacement platter on your TT. Cheers, Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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