daveyonthecoast Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hello Friends I seem to have a problem, regarding left and right, balance!! It seems to me, that the, left speaker, has more bass and impact, only just!!, but enough, to ask, why the bass and slam seems to be coming from the right speaker?? My gear is bellow 1. Once Analog, Turntable, with the the "wand Tonearm", from New Zealand, I have tried many times, to correct, VTA, SRA, etc, on the wand you can dial the counter weight, left, and right, but the dial is right of center, witch, makes the dial, not flushed, more to the right, which makes the dial, off balance, I have done everything, I can get close, but not enough, to be perfect !!, do you think I should, get my ears flushed, I had this done last year, but did not have a audio gear, to test!!, My audio gear is below 1. Once Analog Turntable, with a Zu/Dennon 103 cartridge!! 2 . Vacuum Tube, JLTI solid state phono stage, with different RCA loading, I'm running 200ohms, that is recommended, from ZU, on some recordings I find it a bit harsh, but not all recordings!! 3. Weston Accoustics Topaz integrated amp, running EL 35 Tubes 4. Zu Soul MK11, Speakers, which are great!! Can some one tell me, why I have a slight harsh sound, with more sound (Bass) coming from the right speaker?? A few years ago I had a different sound system, 1. Well Tempered TT 2. Tube preamp, made by a expert, based, on Allen Wright design 3. Bedini Power amp 4. Shinninian arc speakers But had he same promblem, the right speaker, does most of the work!! Friends What is your thoughts?? Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telecine Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sounds like it might be room setup related. Can you post a pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzr Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 First off, eliminate the cables & components through trial & error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Some comments, suggestions and questions: 1) Rule out the phono. Is the problem present when using a digital source? If you don't have one, borrow one. 2) Rule out the power amp. Swap the input and output leads, such that left is now right and right is now left. 3) Rule out the speakers. Swap the speakers over. Let us know what you find. My best guess (in approximate order of likelihood): 1) Stylus is damaged. 2) Cartridge has been poorly aligned. 3) Speaker/room interaction requires attention. 4) Phono preamp is faulty. 5) Power amp is faulty. Edited January 29, 2017 by Zaphod Beeblebrox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldiver Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Er, many, many non-acoustic recordings have bass situated slightly to the left of centre. For years I also wondered why the left speaker seemed to have more bottom on pop, rock, funk etc recordings. My amp has a facility to play in centre the left or right channels individually. Very often the left channel information is far bassier than the right. Do you get the same problem with classical orchestral music (where low strings are most often placed to the right)? Blue Note records from the '60s are also a useful comparison, as Van Gelder most often recorded upright bass very slightly to the right of middle. Another thing to consider are the contacts of your interconnects. Twice over the years I had the problem where I had to jiggle or twist one of the cables to restore the full signal. I'd still say the mostly likely explanation is an acoustic anomaly in your room, assuming your cartridge is set up properly and speakers are well positioned. Edited January 29, 2017 by goldiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelw Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 check your gear, room setup etc. if none of the above get your hearing checked many people do not have symmetrical hearing ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Is the left speaker closer to the wall or in a corner? Are all the drivers working in the speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misternavi Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 i had an issue like that as well recently and it turned out to be pre amp volume control when at low levels. advice from zaph is good. try it with a digital source.Sent from my iPhone using Telepathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyonthecoast Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Thanks Friends For your informative incite, after reading my post, that I sent, I think I might be over reaction??, I have testered all the above, the problem is, I think too critical, I played a well reordered album, sure enough, as someone posted, the way things are recordered, the bass and kick drums, seem to be coming from right speaker(facing towards), the whole above is only noticed, when I'm sitting on the "sweet spot" on my lounge, but when I tilt my head a bit, to the right, the balance seems to improve!!. also when I stand up from my sweet spot, it seems the balance, again improves, from right to left, I now have been sucked into not playing, a record for enjoyment, but to play to see if the channels are equal!! not good!! I think getting my hearing tested, would be a good start!!, but what I can't explane, is when I stand upright from my sweet spot, all seems OK Your Thoughs Regards David P>S sorry about the Typos, I just cant spell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I had a two year battle with my system with a slight imbalance with my 805d2's, even swapping speakers, amps etc didn't fix it. Got used to it after awhile. So I put it down to the room. Then the D3's came along and there's now no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtcom Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Can you confirm that you are running EL35 output tubes and not EL34?@daveyonthecoast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyonthecoast Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 23 hours ago, ehtcom said: Can you confirm that you are running EL35 output tubes and not EL34?@daveyonthecoast Using EK34 output tubes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyonthecoast Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, ehtcom said: Can you confirm that you are running EL35 output tubes and not EL34?@daveyonthecoast Using EL34 output tubes David Edited January 31, 2017 by daveyonthecoast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtcom Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, daveyonthecoast said: Using EK34 output tubes David EK34? or EL34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyonthecoast Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hello Sorry EL34 Thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtcom Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, daveyonthecoast said: Hello Sorry EL34 Thanks David All good then. If it had been EL35 it would explain the harsh sound as they would be running a bit too hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyonthecoast Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hello Sorry EL34 Thanks David Hello Friend I'm new to this!!, are you the one, that it maybe, on modern recordings?? The most sound comes from the right, speaker, that's facing, the spekers, towards them, re speakers, re right, facing them, with my right hand, the left speakers, are left, facing them Hoping for a Dial, to balance speakers Many Thanks David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtcom Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hi David Try swapping you speaker cables from left to right at the rear of the amp. If the unbalance stays in the same channel, then the issue will be with your speakers or room. If the unbalance changes with the cable swap, then the issue is with your electronics, somewhere. Cheers, Earle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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