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On 10/24/2017 at 3:23 PM, Rob181 said:

Size matters...so this one would be my pick...

 

7½" SATORI MW19P-8

Hi Rob         thats the beast mate ! I have a pair hear at the factory now .     Mike

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On 10/18/2017 at 8:27 PM, Lenehan Audio said:
On 10/27/2017 at 2:33 PM, Lenehan Audio said:

Hi Rob         thats the beast mate ! I have a pair hear at the factory now .     Mike

 

Will be very interested to read how they compare with the current Peerless driver...

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19 hours ago, Rob181 said:

Will be very interested to read how they compare with the current Peerless driver...

So far the Peerless Nomex drivers have produced the best midrange I have heard this side of the best paper diaphragm woofers .

 

The problem with the paper drivers historically is that the bass performance is generally poor ! I know ! The mids are the most important but if you can have both you gotta grab it . The Nomex drivers sound like paper in the mids and do the bottom end like more conventional drives . 

 

This new Satori 7.5 inch has the big advantage of superb TS specs that predict an awesome bottom end and yet we also have a superb paper diaphragm ! WT !

 

This normally does not happen Lads !   I must admit to being a little sceptical , but we shall see . I'm still completing the kit speaker project at the moment but as soon as I'm finished I'm into it .               Cheers.  Mike Lenehan

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If there 's one thing that I can say really stands out about all of Mike's speakers, it's the midrange - I haven't heard better. So those humble Nomex cones must indeed be good midrange drivers.

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16 hours ago, Lenehan Audio said:

So far the Peerless Nomex drivers have produced the best midrange I have heard this side of the best paper diaphragm woofers .

 

The problem with the paper drivers historically is that the bass performance is generally poor ! I know ! The mids are the most important but if you can have both you gotta grab it . The Nomex drivers sound like paper in the mids and do the bottom end like more conventional drives . 

 

This new Satori 7.5 inch has the big advantage of superb TS specs that predict an awesome bottom end and yet we also have a superb paper diaphragm ! WT !

 

This normally does not happen Lads !   I must admit to being a little sceptical , but we shall see . I'm still completing the kit speaker project at the moment but as soon as I'm finished I'm into it .               Cheers.  Mike Lenehan

To add to above importantly it has much lower VC inductance than Peerless, 0.2mH versus 1.4mH . They've obviously paid a lot of attention to the motor design. The real benefit of this is lower inductance modulation over the travel of driver. This inductance modulation plays havoc with your xover. Should be very clean in midrange and upper MR. People usually look at cone weight etc as indication of clean extended response but VC inductance is a real factor. Keep us posted Mike.

- So, how do you get real bass out of such a small driver

- I wonder what it's power handling is compared to Peerless.

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5 hours ago, zenelectro said:

To add to above importantly it has much lower VC inductance than Peerless, 0.2mH versus 1.4mH . They've obviously paid a lot of attention to the motor design. The real benefit of this is lower inductance modulation over the travel of driver. This inductance modulation plays havoc with your xover. Should be very clean in midrange and upper MR. People usually look at cone weight etc as indication of clean extended response but VC inductance is a real factor. Keep us posted Mike.

- So, how do you get real bass out of such a small driver

- I wonder what it's power handling is compared to Peerless.

Hi Terry 

          Your right the low. VC inductance is an excellent advantage for Xover design 

the VC inductance for the ML2 Peerless Nomex is even lower at 0.18Mh .

 

In an 8 mtr long room with around 90 cubic mtr volume I reckon we can get flat down to 35hz and maybe a bit lower .      Cheers Mike 

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44 minutes ago, Lenehan Audio said:

the VC inductance for the ML2 Peerless Nomex is even lower at 0.18Mh .

That may confuse some Mike...

Terry was comparing the ML3 Peerless with the Satori...

And now you are comparing a different Peerless used in the ML2...

Please can we stay with ML3/5 comparisons...

Apples with apples my good man...

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ML5's in da house.

 

Was a nice day up to the Goldie and back, was nice to meet @TerryO and @Gambit , natures gentleman, both. Enjoyed some Mexican with Mike for lunch and allowed myself a lunch time Stone & Wood Pacific Ale as a little celebration.

 

Was generally nice to not be at work and to go for a good long solo drive. Everywhere you look up here at the moment, it highway upgrade! And only 30 or 40 years in the making, haha.

 

Massive cranes or piling borers sticking up along the horizon signalling another bridge going across somewhere, geez they don't muck around these days.

 

There needs to be more ML5's out in the world. Once you hear them, you'll have to have them. They are the most easy listening naturl sounding speakers I have ever heard and now I have a shiny black pair of Reference level ML5's in my humble little loungeroom.

 

...and yes Mike, the bass build up in 'The Pot' got the occasional 'thwack' out of the woofer, a nice little effect as I know the speaker is telling me, 'hey Daz, that's it mate', haha.

 

 

Will position them more on Sunday, got the son here with me at the moment.

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Mike, thank you.

 

Bernard Fanning is currently pouring his heart out in my lounge room.

 

Your speakers do the human voice and emotion like nothing I have ever heard.

 

For me, as a first-and-foremost lover of music and the poetry, this is heaven sent.

 

Just beautiful. Thank you.

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6 minutes ago, Darren69 said:

Mike, thank you.

 

Bernard Fanning is currently pouring his heart out in my lounge room.

 

Your speakers do the human voice and emotion like nothing I have ever heard.

 

For me, as a first-and-foremost lover of music and the poetry, this is heaven sent.

 

Just beautiful. Thank you.

Welcome to the Lenehan fanboy club

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51 minutes ago, Darren69 said:

Your speakers do the human voice and emotion like nothing I have ever heard.

Oi...there's copyright on that...

I've been banging the drum about the ML3/5...

Midrange - especially human voice - reproduction...

For maybe a couple of years now...its why I love ribbon speakers...

Nothing beats them for human voice reproduction...

The ML5's do a LOT of other things better than most ribbons... 

Edited by Rob181

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Thanks Darren
It’s the new Seas Exotic tweeter that has allowed the ML5 to shine , particularly in the midrange .

Getting a floorstander to do what a mini monitor can do in the mids was quite a trial

. The ML3 could certainly do it to a degree but running a grunty 8 inch bass driver over to a 1inch dome was quite a job .

The other big advantage is those Duelund Silver bypass caps . I have historically not been an advocate of silver of any kind but these caps definitely improve any speaker we have run them with . Very organic and musical .
Go Daz ! And many thanks for the feedback.
Regards Mike Lenehan

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Speakers sorted. Any chance of making the website interesting and functional?:)

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Hi rantan
It’s bloody awful isn’t it ? We are halfway through the new website build now, so should only be a few weeks.
Building most of our product is debilitating time wise !
There’s just myself and my two sons .
Maybe I should just have junk built overseas and spend the dough on marketing (AKA legal lying )

Sorry I’m on my third glass of 2002 Penfolds Bin 28 and it’s awesome .

There’s about 80 man hours in building a pair of ML5Reference over a period of about 6weeks . Not a lot of time mate. Ha Haaa. Mike

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7 minutes ago, Lenehan Audio said:

Hi rantan
It’s bloody awful isn’t it ? We are halfway through the new website build now, so should only be a few weeks.
Building most of our product is debilitating time wise !
There’s just myself and my two sons .
Maybe I should just have junk built overseas and spend the dough on marketing (AKA legal lying )

Sorry I’m on my third glass of 2002 Penfolds Bin 28 and it’s awesome .

There’s about 80 man hours in building a pair of ML5Reference over a period of about 6weeks . Not a lot of time mate. Ha Haaa. Mike
 

 

No problem Mike. Your priorities are spot on. Speaker development 1st 2nd and third, I fully understand your time pressures

 

Cheers

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3 hours ago, Lenehan Audio said:

Hi rantan
It’s bloody awful isn’t it ? We are halfway through the new website build now, so should only be a few weeks.
Building most of our product is debilitating time wise !
There’s just myself and my two sons .
Maybe I should just have junk built overseas and spend the dough on marketing (AKA legal lying )

Sorry I’m on my third glass of 2002 Penfolds Bin 28 and it’s awesome .

There’s about 80 man hours in building a pair of ML5Reference over a period of about 6weeks . Not a lot of time mate. Ha Haaa. Mike
 

You need more workers, Mike!

 

If you get cracking now you can have more labor in time for the release of the ML-10 ;)

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No Noum You’ve given me an idea ! I can run a sweat shop upstairs in the factory!! A feed a night and $3 per hour any volunteers? Remember you could listen to ML5’s all day ! No overtime though 🤷🏼‍♂️

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9 hours ago, Lenehan Audio said:

No Noum You’ve given me an idea ! I can run a sweat shop upstairs in the factory!! A feed a night and $3 per hour emoji106.png any volunteers? Remember you could listen to ML5’s all day ! No overtime though 🤷🏼‍♂️

Sure but only if you don't traipse through in that night shirt you like, I need to advise it just isn't quite long enough.

 

@Wongy you should drop in, not sure if you have heard these or not. ;D

 

Daz

 

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26 minutes ago, Darren69 said:

Sure but only if you don't traipse through in that night shirt you like, I need to advise it just isn't quite long enough.

Don't look up...don't look down...

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