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This is close enough to do me.  Certainly not the system I would have expected to finish up with.

 

The NS1000s as described in reviews are the last speaker I would have ever aspired to own. Crass, shrill, metallic monitors they say.

Any-one will tell you that 18 Watts will never give enough drive to really rock a 90dB speaker and my little amps  only actually put out about 16 Watts. 300Bs don't do bass or top end and subwoofers are impossible to integrate seamlessly.  Ah well, don't believe all you are told.

 

The big Carys are smoother, more forgiving, but those old Audions are a class above. I owned what were possibly the first pair of Silver Night Parallel Single Ended Mono-Blocks  in Australia way back in the early '90s.  This is my second pair and I waited a long time to get them. Just great amplifiers from a rarely mentioned company and an even less recognised designer Erik Andersson. The arrival of the Golden Dragon 300B in the early '90's was soon followed by a 300B SET amplifier in the dark days of valve amplification,the Silver Nights PSE Mono-Blocks. We currently live in the golden revival age!  The interior of these earlier units are absolute old school, wooden rails, copper screws....looks like a six year old put them together. They do things though, very special.

 

I have a Yamaha B-2 coming for those times I need to push the SPLs a little further into insanity but this is a nice balanced system and it goes plenty loud.  Very affordable cables, no million dollar substation feeding in the power. I believe, and always will believe, that if you can get the amplifier / speaker relationship correct the rest becomes simple. If that relationship is wrong you can spend your whole life and entire bank account playing around with sources, cables ,voodoo and general insanity.

 

There are many in this hobby who love the chase, the fiddling and tuning, upgrading, finding greater resolution etc, etc.  Not me. All I ever wanted was to find my sound and then just sit and enjoy. I managed it once before but it all got stolen. Finally managed it again and those funny little amplifiers have been at the heart of both systems.

 

The last little experiment will be V-Fet v SET but I have a feeling I will just keep both and enjoy their differences.

 

Cheers,

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Kick ass sound here chaps, for relatively chumpy change in the grander scheme of things. Though I haven't heard the Audions in this system as yet (next weekend anyone?) the leaps of faith in building this setup have been suitable rewarded! Geez that Legend is a big unit too.....

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What a very classy write up and explanation of your system and how you arrived at it.

 

For me, mostly I take from your journey that you have found the sound that makes you happy and are able to wallow in the music it presents you.

 

This is so the end of the road result we all start out to find. Well done it looks fantastic !

 

"Synergy" is spoken about , but only you know when that is achieved , it gives you this "Goldilocks" , just right feeling....welcome to the world of music .... (which is where we are all headed)

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can imagine indeed would be a sweet combo indeed and sounds like really hitting the spot :)

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I love the way you framed one of my favourite albums that close to my heart, got that on the Original Master Recording that cost almost $35 dollars back in the 80s. I play the original version on Redbook these days: Rickie Lee Johns....... One of the most beautiful sonic recordings ever made for its time IMO.

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Nice setup Hugh.   What are your thoughts of the amazing looking PF800  TT ?

Ive only heard those speakers once at @@Bear72 s

and prefered their sound on the day to his other set which were Gales l think

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Thank-you for your kind comments gentlemen.

 

 I could not agree more Mr 57, when you are doing a lot of time listening and turning it up then all is well with your system. When it lies dormant and you are turning it down then something is amiss. The thing about Synergy is it often seems to defy all the collective wisdom. The only way to truly know is to link things together.

 

The Legend Kurlo was one of the best buys ever Bear.  Once again the rule of thumb would be to get a sealed sub for work with the NS1000s but the Kurlo is so fast, it never sounds behind the tempo and is full,fat and detailed.  An absolute credit to its' designer.

 

One thing I would say to all lovers of Audio is that there are many ways to skin a cat, no one direction holds all the answers. The best thing about SNA is its' ability to link groups of hi-fi fans together so they can hear all the different ways to reproduce sound. It is this mass exposure to sound reproduction that lets you form your own view on what makes a great system.  In my experience good sound is good sound, when a system is working well the listeners usually agree, if there are short comings the more experienced ears tend to hear and explain them first.  Good sound can be fat slow and romantic or fast detailed and exciting or anywhere in-between. All can be highly enjoyable but they need to highlight their strengths and cover their weaknesses.  These groups of listeners can also swap and demo gear amongst their group to help short list paths forward and avoid expensive mistakes. 

 

Cheers,

Hugh

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Hi Grumpy, I can not tell a lie the pf800 gets very little work.  I am a redbook CD listener. I am yet to hear a streaming style solution that betters a good player and the romance of vinyl has never really grabbed me. I do feel a bit guilty about the TT not getting the use it deserves but I will get it rocking at it's best soon, finalising the rest of the system has taken priority.

 

My hi-tech album framing comes at no expense spared. I get the cheapest plastic frames from IKEA and then scour the record shops for my favourite covers. I think Rickie Lee Jones cost me about $3. I have a number of albums a few times, one will have a cover in great condition, the other an album in great condition. Album covers are often things of great beauty and memories, one thing a CD will never equal.

 

Cheers

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That's looking really great, Hugh. :thumb:  Those speakers are the most pristine example I've seen and you've really set them off properly by making a superb set of stands for them.  The whole set-up looks just beautiful.

 

And it's fabulous to see another convert falling prey to the seductive charms of the mighty NS1000M's.  I love the aforementioned Gales for lot of reasons, but I agree with Grumpy and the NS1000M's on balance sound better overall to me.  They're both outstandingly worthy classics, though, with different strengths and capabilities.

 

The NS1000's sounded so good with the Cary's that it's hard to imagine the Audions could do any more or better - looking forward to checking the magic out in person soon.  It's just so good to see it all coming together so well.

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Great to see you finally located another pair of Audions.  The pairing with the NS1000's is probably unusual but it sounds like it's all good.  

Also love that you got the electric guitars in frame, making people think you may be a talented musician....we know the truth, don't we!  :D

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Rickie Lee Jones

 

RLJ...Indeed it is a excellent recording. In fact like all her records wonderfully done in the studio and stupendous playing...

Edited by The Fez

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Aaaaaaaaaaaah I was told there was an SA person in line for a B-2 refurb unit when I enquired about one.........  :P

Look forward to the pics.   System looks great.

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Thanks for sharing your system and thoughts/experience Hugh. I've often wondered if people in this immersive hobby find themselves with "it" - the near perfect blend of gear that brings everything together and leaves you with the music that sounds right for you. Glad to read you have reached that place!  I also like your choice of album art - especially Roxy Music Avalon - love that album!

 

Cheers!

 

James

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Thanks again for all your kind comments folks.

 

First to my very dear old friend RoHo. I think ten years (longer?) in a band together counts for  a lot.  As you know I am a guitar player of exquisite style and taste. O.K. I suck and lack a morsel of talent. However my beautiful wife is a fine player and an even better bass player, more musical talent in her little finger than I have in my whole body. I notice that you at-least have the dignity not to have any drum-kit photos in your posts.

 

Tony, you have a lot to answer for and if you weren't hoarding half the world production of NS1000s some other people could have a pair too.

 

Jakey B and The Fez we South Australians are working on our own stash of V-fets to stop you East Coast boys from cornering the market.  A nice shiny B-2 should be here by the end of next week. It will need to have been doing duty in Gods private Hi-Fi to beat the Audions but if ever there was a speaker to suit......Really looking forward to a long close look at the difference in presentation between a SET and v-fet into such revealing speakers. I love amplifiers and I am really very excited by this show-down.

 

Holliswhy it is a very, very, early M5. More like a souped up M3. It is prior to them going to the really fancy power supply.  It has done the rounds down here and all who have tried her in their systems like what she does. A fine sounding pre-amp.

 

Cheers.

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Sorry James, I missed your post!

 

 I think many really do enjoy the hobby aspect of audio. They find no pleasure in finishing, then what do they do for a hobby?

 

 Many however find "their" sound and then just try flavours in that field.  I know people who only enjoy horns, some are die-hard SET , valve or v-fet lovers.  Some fall for a brand or house sound.  Bit like wine or car buffs  I guess, some are only interested in reds or Holdens, others play the field and the real die hards specialise in Port or Carburetors. Personally I say good is good.  In recent times I have been surprised by many things not sounding the way I expect them to. If it Rocks, engages me, effects me emotionally, I don't care what the components are. If they are cheap and reliable then I am really impressed!

 

Those who do find "it" probably don't spend a lot of time on forums but take off to the Bahama's for a well earned break with all the money they saved.....

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Looking forward to your thoughts on the Yamaha B-2. Drive your B-2 with a reliable trusted tube pre-amp, like to hear what you think. As mentioned to Jake,ensure whatever you attach to a VFET amp, you are confident of its provenance and reliability.

 

A bit of vintage Yamaha discussion going on at the moment around SNA, with various NS model speakers being discussed, bought and sold, vfet amps and bipolar examples --- and of course we are all hanging out to see and hear (and buy :unsure: ) the much awaited NS-5000. 

 

 

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Cheers Fez, 

No problem on the provenance or reliability of the pre-amp, she's a good 'un.

 

I must say Yamaha has suddenly become very in vogue! I am not sure I want to see or hear the NS-5000. What you don't know can't hurt you and   "Audio Memory" is a terrible thing, makes people buy stuff they can't afford and end up living under a bridge....

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  Certainly not the system I would have expected to finish up with.

 

 

Love this statement......goes to show we can all end up somewhere we didn't expect with this hobby, having fun along the way.....good on ya Hugh!!! :thumb:

 

Tase.

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I sold the Audion Silver Nights to Hugh I didnt really have a reason to they had been working fine. Yet he spoke so passionately about the last pair he owned I though he would cherish them more than me and it gave me the opportunity to buy some tamura 300b monos that will be donor amps for make some 250 rca globe based amps. It was a win win for both of us, so good in life when this happens. I was surprised that the Audions actually worked with the NS1000s though this game is full of surprises.  Really pleased its worked out so well for Hugh.

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Cheers Hedalfa,    As you know I am blown away by the results.

 

 It took a little time to crowbar these beauties from Hedalfa's grasp but he is off into areas of valve appreciation that few tread.

 

 

The Audions  have been hot rodded..................A quad matched set of Psvane  T series Mark ii grey bottle 300Bs.

 

I have never heard any valve sound this impressive straight out of the box.  The JJ 300Bs  have a slightly etched top end but are a pretty decent 300B.  The Psvane grey bottles make them sound second rate.  I am frankly shocked by the improvement across the board, everything is better, everything. What they will be like with 200 hours under their belt I can only imagine.

 

A good going over by my tech, with a good clean and tighten of all the valve sockets had already given very noticeable gains.

 

A happy man, pictures to follow.

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Ahh the Robot.  He loves music but mainly dancing. Problem is he is always "doing the Robot".  I did however see him do "The Hustle" and " Nutbush" once.

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