southern_tango Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hi ,I got a Labcraft TT ,with which appears to be a Acoustical tone arm plus other stuff, any info on them could be appreciated. The tone arm weights a lot compared with another I had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern_tango Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 So,after looking up and down the internet got a bit of info on it the turntable is similar to the Bang & Olufsen 42 ,the tonearm is one case of crossover ,looks like it is a Jobo all-balance but also is a Acoustical and B&O too ,I guess why this old fella had the three headshels (in the pic from left to right,Jobo, B&O and Acoustical). The cartridge is a Shure M7d but the stylus is Audio Technical (looks brand new) Great info about vintage gramophones of Denmark is in here http://www.grammofoon.com/frameset.htm?index.html&ContentFrame But still looking for more info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kttiong Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hi Alfred, I'm interested in the tonearm shown . Are u interested to sell? pm me 0457204131. Thanks kttiong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I couldn't find any info on this in the VinylEngine database. It is unfortunate that little documentation circulates on models of this era, it is possible that not very much existed when it was released. I've sent you a PM with some general thoughts on this table, but as I've never seen one I'm hesitant to put them out in public. It does look to be a mid-level idler drive from the early 60's. Probably somewhat better quality than cheap idler auto-changers, and probably not in the high-end Garrard 301/401 league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This ebay ad has a pic which shows the badge which is missing near your tonearm pivot. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Labcraft-Type-605-Turntable-Rare-/331940565681?hash=item4d493312b1 This ebay ad is for a brochure for what appears to be a later model to your TT, it is readable when you zoom in. It says that it comes with either a B&O or all balance arm http://www.ebay.it/itm/381395986175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Hi Alfred, I have found some of the manual for this. Have sent another PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have recently obtained the same LabCraft. It doesn't have the power cord attached. Can someone advise where to attach it, it is not obvious looking underneath the TT. (eg. if you have one of these, a photo of the underside would help). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztayls Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 29/03/2016 at 3:55 PM, southern_tango said: Ive recently acquired this one and have set about restoring it. Doesn't need much, new belt, cartridge and new headshell wires. It sounds very nice indeed! Does anyone have a copy of the manual? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussievintage Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I have one of these. The speed adjustment mechanism with tiny wire driven adjustable clutches combined with the part idler part belt drive on a finicky spring balanced mounting make it a nightmare to service. I decided not to waste any more time on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztayls Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I guess I was lucky with this one then. I would persevere though, as they are very nice when properly working and well set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 @oztayls , you have a nice unit. I've also sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennduke Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I have one of these and am after a rubber mat to replace the original TT mat. Any chance that anyone would know where I can get one? Kenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 @Kennduke - pm sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackstone1913 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I have just pulled my unit out of the shed where it has been for 30 years! I made this unit up in about 1962. I built a Mullard 10/10 amp (also resurrected from the shed) with some Warfdale speakers (still in the shed). I used a B&O All balance Arm with a crystal cartrige (I did not make a Mullard pre amp for a MM or MC cartridge as short on money at the time. However the turntable rubber mat has perished in the hot weather in the farm shed, as has the drive belt. The arm is complete but the phono wire insulation has perished. The arm has a black counterweight. I think I will try and restore the turntable just for the heck of it and try and buy a mat somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 10/07/2022 at 11:22 PM, blackstone1913 said: I have just pulled my unit out of the shed where it has been for 30 years! I made this unit up in about 1962. I built a Mullard 10/10 amp (also resurrected from the shed) with some Warfdale speakers (still in the shed). I used a B&O All balance Arm with a crystal cartrige (I did not make a Mullard pre amp for a MM or MC cartridge as short on money at the time. However the turntable rubber mat has perished in the hot weather in the farm shed, as has the drive belt. The arm is complete but the phono wire insulation has perished. The arm has a black counterweight. I think I will try and restore the turntable just for the heck of it and try and buy a mat somewhere. I've sent you a Private Message, I might be able to help with a mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Johns Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hi, I've recently acquired a Labcraft 605 and I'm looking for the service manual - did anyone end up finding it? Thanks, Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 No service manual is around for it. The most complex part is the wire that is used for the speed adjust, it can be broken. A new belt can be constructed by joining a 675mm length of 3mm Ø o-ring rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Johns Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Thanks for confirming, I did manage to find some information which everyone has probably already seen. They released these with a liftime guarantee for the lubrication of the motor and cam gear so I assume this is why there isn't a service manual. Well its definately been about a liftime since it was relased and the motor in mine definately has a noisy top bearing. It isn't terrible but to my ear it would benefit from a few drops of oil. The actual turntable deck itself also needs to be taken out, sanded back and re-sprayed as its suffered some minor rust damage - probably from being stored in a damp shed or cold roof space. The interesting thing about this unit is that someone went to the trouble of making a custom plinth with inbuilt light and power. I've started restoring this also. Should look awesome when its done. If anyone has spares for these units I would be interested. In particular the adjustable weight guide that sets the tone arm antiskate resistance as mine is broken on the 650 I have. I will attach some photos of the part I need. I guess it can be fixed but I prefer something original if at all possible. Thanks again, Damon Edited May 10, 2023 by Damon Johns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofeline Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) That's the All-Balance arm (Dutch) pictured The turntable's on/off switch is connected to the are rest. The Labcraft was often supplied with this arm or a B&O arm. Your arm has the older "rocketeer" headshell, with the front notch broken-off to accommodate the flip-over cart. The tail of the headshell is also the finger-lift, I'm amused by many I see that have a 3rd-party armlift clipped onto the headshell. The latter headshell design looks quite boring in comparison. The bakelite of these headshells becomes brittle where the tonearm connector is, so it's not unusual to find these arms without headshells. And of course, the headshell/tonearm coupling is unique, so you can't use other headshells. The arrowed spring should be connected to the underside of the circled adjustable collar. Twisting this collar can adjust the skating of the arm. Edited May 9, 2023 by audiofeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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