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  1. GIESELER Groß DAC Review

    Review Setup GIESELER Groß DAC with usb only input option (standard has s/pdif & usb inputs). Groß connected to Sotm SMS-200 with Audioquest Carbon usb cable. Used XLR outputs to SGR CX3B (Mk 1) powered speakers. Bass optimised with dual subs (SVS SB13U, SB-2000). SMS-200 bridged to Synology DS414 NAS to access music. Used MPD server on SMS-200 and MPDroid on phone for playback. External Appearance & Remote The unit has a smart looking front, with a power button and 4 line display. Update 17 Oct: new firmware removed Channel, now 3 line display The rear panel has a usb input, XLR and RCA outputs and a 9V AC input from an external transformer to feed low noise internal PSU's. Update 17 Oct: Note that Groß has output transformers which allows it to be directly connected to power amps or powered speakers. Smaller and much lighter than previous Audiolab 8200CDQ (DAC plus pre-pro, CD player, headphone amp). 8200CDQ displayed both the bit depth and sample rate but Groß only the sample rate. Groß display could do with brightness adjustment because it was too bright at night. The remote was slim and easy to use. Red power button cycled through home menu, screen off, large volume and filter display. Channel Up/Down cycled through filters, Volume Up/Down, plus mute button. Volume control was digital with a bypass available for a pre-pro. In my case, requested that bypass be disabled to prevent an accidental overload on the amps in the CX3Bs. Setting up on the SMS-200 was straight forward. After plugging the usb cable into Groß, the SMS-200 picked up the DAC. Then, manually changed DAC setting from non-DSD to DoP in Eunhasu MPD setup. DAC Comparison As expected, Groß out-performed 4 years old 8200CDQ (which was highly acclaimed then). The difference was marked when switching back to the 8200CDQ after a few hours on the Groß, with less detail, transparency and naturalness among many things lacking. Looking forward to reviews of others comparing Groß with more recent DACs. Listening Experience Most of my music consisted of ripped 16/44.1 flac, with some purchased 24/96 flac and also have ripped DSD64. Groß is my first unit able to play native DSD; previously DSD converted to PCM during playback. Long time favourite, Parce Mihi Domine (Jan Garbarek & Hillard Ensemble, Officium, 16/44.1 flac) had never sounded so good. Jan Garbarek’s saxophone was more natural and transparent and there was clarity in the position of the saxophone relative to the Hillard Ensemble. In numerous 16/44.1 flac, Groß managed to bring out the details and improved the imaging, depth, sound stage. Vocals, particularly female (e.g. KD Lang, Hallelujah, Hymns of the 49th Parallel) had a presence. Even relatively poor classical recordings sounded cleaner. Groß does 16/44.1 flac very well. With higher resolution music, the piano in Gjeilo’s North Country II, Stone Rose, 24/96 flac was natural and as close as I have heard to a real one. When the flugelhorn comes in, imaging was good and realistic. Diana Krall’s My Love Is, from Love Scenes, 24/96 flac, had deep tight bass bass, tighter than I knew, with an excellent voice. Groß managed to improve the bass a bit more in an already optimised dual sub setup. Groß’s DSD capability is outstanding. Eagles’s Hotel California from the same named album was a revelation in native DSD64. Detailed, transparent, nice sound stage. Much better than 16/44.1 and beat 24/96 version. Similarly, Arnesen’s Magnificat 4: Et Misericordia from Magnificat album (DSD64) on 2L label was very good. However, in an unfair comparison, it could not (& not expected to) match the atmosphere and presence of 5.1 PCM with the piano and organ behind the conductor. DSDs came across superbly on the Groß. Could have written a lot more about how good the listening experience was but above was a fair representation. Update 17 Oct: The listening experience improved after 30 to 40 hours of use. Not sure whether this was because I was getting more used to the Groß’s presentation? Female vocals continued to capture my attention with their presence. And still amazed by the details in PCM material. DSDs remain outstanding, problem now is opening wallet to get more DSD material. Filters The Groß with the AKM AK4497EQ DAC chip came with 6 filters: Super slow roll-off: no echo reproduces natural sound Short delay, slow roll-off: minimal echo reproduces original sound Slow roll-off: minimal echo reproduces original sound Short delay, sharp roll-off: post echo enhances bass sound Sharp roll-off: pre & post echoes make powerful sound. Low dispersion short delay: sound quality optimised Selecting the filter was via the remote and could be changed on the fly for PCM. Filters do not apply to DSD. There were supposed to be subtle differences between filters, but was beyond my old ears to resolve consistently. Firmware Owning the first USB unit is wonderful and exciting but came with imperfect beta firmware. The firmware was derived from the Gieseler Konverter (same AK4497EQ DAC chip plus pre-pro) and still displayed channel in first line. Also, there were pops when skipping DSD tracks, and occasional pops elsewhere. Will get update once these niggles have been resolved. Update 17 Oct: Firmware has now been updated which removed channel in display, eliminated the annoying pops/clicks. It turned out that the Konverter firmware had the same problem. Both sets of firmware now been overhauled and improved. Skip Groß If You … Like the unboxing experience and want to make a YouTube video of it. GIESELER Audio has spent R&D dollars on how it sounds and none on the packaging (but unit was well packed with 3 layers of bubble wrap). Bonus was no one was tempted during shipment! Update 17 Oct: Clay has sourced a double box for shipping Desire international brands with big reputations, leading edge look & feel and extensive reviews. GIESELER Audio have well regarded niche products here on SNA. It may yet gain a wider acceptance as a result of Groß! Conclusion Proud and delighted to own an Australian designed and manufactured DAC which delivered superb audio. In summary, WOW! Update 17 Oct: a theme coming through from the early owners is that the Groß DAC is addictive and we want to listen to it even more. p/s Clay Gieseler @Gieseler Audio is a fantastic person to deal with and service is second to none.
  2. Been going through the Gieseler DAC threads to dig up owners’ reviews over the past 2 years. Together, they provided an impressive picture of how well Clay has made his DACs and has lead me to consider purchase the upcoming Groß DAC with balanced outputs. Groß Reviews illbarto 18 Sep 17 compared with Klein II Snoopy8 5 Oct 17 compared with Audiolab 8200CDQ BAM 6 Oct 17 compared with PSAudio Directstream Konverter Reviews (Has pre-amp as well) ~Spyne~ 29 Apr 17 Woadl 13 Jun 17 compared with Auralic Vega Klein II Reviews Andrewyuri 1 May 16 compared with Klein Jonny 31 Jul 16 compared with Antelope Gold Klein Reviews GPK 17 Jun 15 Bill125812 28 Jun 15 compared with NAD M51 naggots 29 Jun 15 rambada 7 Aug 15 matt200sr 10 Aug 15 naggots 21 Sep 15 on SE version scumbag 16 Oct 15 compared with MyDac joz 29 Oct 15 pete_mac 5 Nov 15 compared with audio-gd DAC16DSP pop9745 25 Nov 15 compared with Chord Hugo, Resonessence Labs Concero HD, and Ifi betocool 1 Dec 15 woadl 1 Dec 15 andrewyuri 13 Apr 16 compared with Arcan irDac, Nad M51 Jventer 15 May 16 compared with PSAudio Directstream NcA 27 May 16 Tellmidd 16 Jul 16 Powerav 15 Oct 16 Zypr 16 Jan 17 Please post if corrections, additions required…
  3. GIESELER KLEIN DAC

    Item: Gieseler Klein DAC Location: ACT Price: $550 posted or $520 local pickup Item Condition: Excellent Reason for selling: The worst reason, having another DAC that's just a little bit better. Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: I love this thing it's made in Australia and Clay really does make a quality product sound and build wise I put this up against my Ref 7.1 which probably wasn't a fair thing to do but it was close the main reason it lost my little comparison exercise were the inputs the Ref has a few more options, if I had the space for a second system I'd keep it. Plenty of info on this site about these (if you haven't come across it yet) Will come with the standard power pack supplied by Clay and be assured it will be packed safely for postage. Pictures:
  4. Item: Auralic Aries mini Location: Brisbane Price: $450 = I have marked this down due to the marking of the top cover – this is as low as I will go! Item Condition: 8.5/10 for Mini Reason for selling: I got a NUC which does most of what the Mini does (still a work in progress!) Payment Method: Pickup local (paypal preferred or cash)– or post (paypal), can post at buyers expense (postage for both is $16 including insurance & sign of delivery) I listened to this unit for about a week before getting the upgraded power supply. It was an instant step up from the SBT though it didn’t have the fat bass character of that unit but was noticeably lower in background noise and jitter (I love the SBT so don't take that the wrong way!). Auralic are a bit bashful about fully promoting the virtues of this device – I think they feel it may cannibalise their more expensive units. I have not heard the other Auralic devices but more mere mortals like me, it would be hard to justify spending a great deal more money when this thing sounds so satisfying. Delivers pristine audio through analogue (using a ESS Sabre 9018KM2 dac chip) or via USB or coaxial SPDIF. It also allows you to add an external hard-drive (happily drives a portable HDD). Has an internal space for a HDD or SDD (Auralic recommends and SSD). The device supports AirPlay and Bluetooth and most formats including DSD. Supports bit perfect or DSD over PCM. It creates a cache of your library of music and acts as a DLNA server. It can also stream across WIFI or Ethernet from a remote library though I’ve never tried this feature. I would characterise the sound as very clean (very low jitter) and detailed but not in the least bit fatiguing and very engaging. It certainly sounds great powering a Daleviat which is not a warm amplifier so it does not tend towards a cool sound by any means. You can alter the treble character with the variable filters to your taste & requirements. I also found the Sabre DAC (analogue) a pleasant surprise given my previous experience with them in the past. You set it up using the Lightning DS server (Ipad or Iphone) and then you can use a multitude of Android or IOS app’s to control it or use Lightning DS which is very nice on the Ipad. The Mini is very versatile – it has happily streamed music to any DAC or USB to SPDIF transport that I have connected to it. Has 4 digital filters to tweak the sound to your taste. Obligatory DAR Review (thanks Johnny): http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/02/audiophile-grade-streaming-with-the-auralic-aries-mini/ http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/721-auralic-aries-mini-and-lightning-ds-review/ http://www.the-ear.net/review-hardware/auralic-aries-mini-network-streamer-and-dac Specs: Streaming Services Local uPnP/DLNA library content TIDAL, Qobuz and WiMP online streaming Internet Radio AirPlay, Songcast and Bluetooth USB hard drive files Optional internal HDD/SSD DLNA/uPNP compatible server software Supported File Types AAC, AIFF, ALAC, APE, DIFF, DSF, FLAC, MP3, OGG, WAV, WV and WMA Sampling Rates PCM in 44.1Khz - 384Khz at 16 - 32bits DSD64, DSD128, DSD256 Control Software AURALiC Lightning DS OpenHome compatible software Media Server Compatibility Built-in Lightning Server Minimserver, Twonky, Asset UPnP, JRiver Input RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet Dual-Band WiFi connection USB 2.0 High-Speed for external disk Output USB 2.0 High-Speed for compatible DAC** Coaxial, TOSLINK*** Power Consumption Playback: 10W at max. Dimension Approx. 5.3"W x 5.3"D x 1.1"H (13.5cm x 13.5cm x 2.8cm) Weight 1.1 pounds (0.5kg) PICTURES: I consider myself to be very careful with my gear but I work in an office with a few other people who obviously do not share my sensibilities. I left the Mini in what I thought was a safe location in a cupboard only to find that someone had dragged cables over it at some point. YAAARGGH! Anyway, the scratching on the Mini isn't too heavy but being a black plastic it tends to highlight it. And doesn’t affect performance (as you’d expect). There is a small chip on one of the corners too visible in photo 2. If you close your eyes, you won't be to see it. The power supply has some miniscule abrasions on it which is a side effect of the powder-coated finish I guess. NOTE - DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GIESELER POWER SUPPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. Item: microRendu - UltraCap LPS-1 - Sonore DC-4 cable - 12Vdc Gieseler Linear PSU Location: Melbourne Price: $1600 pickup for the lot. Currently this costs $2000 including the shipping from the US. See below post for interstate postage. Item Condition: Excellent Reason for selling: Trying something different as a source. I will probably seriously regret this in 3 months. Payment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD Only Extra Info: - Prefer pickup but can look at postage costs interstate if someone is interested. - Check out my seller feedback here and buy with confidence: http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/profile/147696-em84/?tab=node_feedback_Feedback Pictures:
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