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Marantz has released their new model AV7702 and AV8802 av processors here for 2015, now while might deceptively look like just a refresh to include the new 3D audio formats and latest HDMI and 4k capability, it appears that audio wise they have had more than a refresh as well. more like a re design. noticed this page here, with couple of D&M group presentations that run through what has been done with these new models http://www.soundvideo.com/2015/01/29/the-new-marantz-av-8802-av-7702-atmos-comparisons/ the page suggesting audio wise the 7702 is steps ahead than the 8801 even ! now no surprises the basis of the marantz processors is the denon cousins. the back plates for instance exactly the same. but still none the less it appears marantz has gone to some effort this time around audio wise. exciting times if wanting to buy a marantz av processor...with the av8801 on run out at close to 50% off rrp. a nice processor in itself and best can buy from the D&M group right now. but if wait soon the av8802/av7702 will arrive...though goodness for potential buyers I do hope qualifi the local importer is kind and doesn't carried away with a dollar heading south and all though if any indication looks like west coast hifi in WA already have them on their website and sharply priced ! http://www.westcoasthificannington.com.au/Brands/Marantz.aspx