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  1. If you can wait a while, the Hisense 2020 range looks really promising. The Q8 models feature a stack of high end features such as Quantum dot filter, wide colour gamut, high peak brightness and most importantly, full array local dimming (FALD) which puts these panels well above anything TCL can offer in Australia. The 75" version of the Hisense Q8 is listed at $3496 at JBs but should come down to below $3K later in the price cycle.
  2. Hi all - like many of our stereo net community with heaps of "spare time" at the moment I was browsing some of the major on line TV brand sites today and noticed that Hisense has announced their Australian 2020 range of televisions. To my great surprise, the top tier Q8 models are specd. with full array local dimming, quantum dot filter, Dolby Vision, a new operating system (VIDAA 4) and is available in a range of sizes up to 85". The 75" version is listed at a very respectable $3699 which, on the face of it, is very competitive with near rivals offering similar technology. Obviously, these sets will need to be reviewed and tested to establish key performance perametres such as peak brightness, native contrast, number of dimming zones and other operating metrics. However, my guess is that the 2020 Q8 is a near clone of the outstanding 2019 Hisense 8HF available in the US and Europe (it certainly looks similar in appearance) and, if this is the case, then Australian consumers will be able for the first time, to purchase high end LCD/LED TVs at a budget price. In 2018, Hisense marketed a series 9 LCD panel with FALD but it was priced way to high and subsequently is still being discounted as an "ex display model". To date, the budget market in Australia (Hisense, TCL, Sonic et al) has offered mostly basic, edge lit LCD panels with poor overall contrast, brightness and color volume. On the negative side, I would expect the COVID crisis will delay arrival of these sets but cant wait to have a look when they hit the showroom floor. It will be also interesting to see whether TCL will come to the party with their US "6 series", another budget set with high end specifications.
  3. Probably two things at play here. Firstly (as mentioned above) our geography makes its more expedient for companies like TCL and Hisense to group us in with the SE Asian market. Second - market share. To be fair to TCL, they are able to develop and market high end panels for the US market simply due to the size of that sector. Furthermore, in the USA, these units can be sold at a budget price, as the raw numbers make it economically feasible, given the size of the market. Hisense have talked about their new mini LED technology coming to Australia this year - lets wait and see but my sense is that this does eventuate, pricing will be in the premium bracket. Given that companies like Samsung and Sony are vacating the premium 4K market in an attempt to push consumers into purchasing 8K, an opportunity exists, for TCL and Hisense to exercise a little creativity and offer their high end US models such as the TCL 6 series and the Hisense H9F, at a budget price in Australia? To conclude, if I was in the market for a 75" LCD panel in Australia with budget limitations, I would stick with Samsung at either the RU 7100 or the RU 8000 which are being discounted at the moment pending the 2020 models. At least with lower end Samsung models, you get a VA panel with decent contrast and black levels. Remember, rule of thumb - avoid IPS panels (LG and lower end Sony) unless wide viewing angles are an issue.
  4. Agree completely - TCL televisions produced for the Australian market part of the company's south east Asian operation. Generally speaking TCL TVs sold here utilise low spec, narrow colour density, edge lit technology, and are nothing like the panels marketed in the USA, such as the 6 series which utilise full array local dimming, wide colour gamit and outstanding peak brightness. Chalk and cheese unfortunately - I just wish that TCL would sell these premium (but budget priced) models in Australia, but am not holding my breath.
  5. Samsung are significantly downgrading its 4Q QLED range in 2020 attempting to push consumers into the premium 8K market, so I suggest you purchase the 2019 Q75R at that price. Exhibit A 2019 Q75R Full array local dimming with 40 zones 2020 Q70T Edge lit panel with no local dimming.
  6. If picture quality is important to you then avoid TVs with an IPS panel such as the LG M86OO or 7600 or any lower end Sony models. IPS panels are terrible for contrast and black levels. IPS panels, to be fair, will provide a wider viewing angle than TVs with a VA panel so if your lounge configuration includes a wide seating arrangement, then an IPS unit may suit you. The Sony X8000G in the 75" version utilises a VA panel (the smaller sizes come with an IPS panel), however it is an edge lit TV so will be limited in its ability to display HDR material as intended by the director. Suggest you purchase the 65" Sony 950G which is a full array local dimming TV utilising a VA panel that will give you a much more "immersive" experience with movies. I would also look at the Samsung Q70R which is also a quality full array local dimming television. I believe it is currently on special at JBs for about $2300. Hope this helps.
  7. Q90R (2019) 480 dimming zones Q9 (2020) 96 dimming zones Q80R (2019) 86 dimming zones Q8 (2020) 46 dimming zones Q70R (2019) 40 dimming zones Q7 (2020) edge lit with no local dimming Looks like a downgrade to me, although if they use a decent local dimming algorithm on the Q8 & 9 models (as per the 2018 Q8FN) they may bet away with a comparable PQ result.
  8. Samsung's 8K TVs look great if you can afford it. I note, with great disappointment that they are "scaling down" their 4K series in 2020. For example, the Q7 is apparently returning to an edge lit display and the Q8 and Q9 will contain much fewer dimming zones than the current years models. Although no official news has been released on the 2020 models, its look as though if you want a premium Samsung panel this year, you will be forced to pay the extra bucks for an 8K TV. Just so glad that I purchased the legendary Q8FN in 2018 It looks like finally, after several years of low spec. models, Hisense will be introducing their higher end full array panels into Australia in 2020 including dual layer LCD. If this is the case, then for the first time Australian consumers will have a budget option with advanced features in the LCD/LED market. Bring it on.
  9. Plenty of 950Gs in Australia. JB currently has the 65" version for $2400. Nice FALD set with a VA panel. You can't go wrong at this price. An excellent choice. All Samsung TVs use a VA (vertically aligned) panel. The Q75 has full array local dimming. I expect the 82" version will have about 100 zones.
  10. An excellent choice. All Samsung TVs use a VA (vertically aligned) panel. The Q75 has full array local dimming. I expect the 82" version will have about 100 zones.
  11. Just be a bit careful here. The magic words are full array local dimming (FALD). Some manufacturers such as HISENSE will try to bamboozle customers with terms such as "200 local dimming zones" but this refers to pseudo local dimming where an algorithm is used to create zones in an edge lit panel. I've probably confused you a bit more but if you are talking to a sales person just insist on seeing panels with full array local dimming. FALD tvs are usually distinguished by a thicker panel (and a higher price tag!) Follow Pete_macs advice above and you can't go wrong. Rule of thumb - avoid contrast poor IPS panels (LG) and go full array local dimming (FALD) if you can afford to. If you have to go edge lit due to budget constraints then the Samsung RU 8000 may be a good buy. Decent contrast and brightness despite the lack of local dimming. Happy hunting.
  12. Follow Pete_macs advice above and you can't go wrong. Rule of thumb - avoid contrast poor IPS panels (LG) and go full array local dimming (FALD) if you can afford to. If you have to go edge lit due to budget constraints then the Samsung RU 8000 may be a good buy. Decent contrast and brightness despite the lack of local dimming. Happy hunting.
  13. In 2017 and again in 2018, Samsung promised to upgrade the KS 8000 TV to HDR 10+; but it never happened. Its a shame because HDR 10+ on Prime Video titles, really pop on my Samsung Q8FN, whereas the same shows on the KS 8000 have no where near the same amount of immersion. The manufacturers want consumers to buy the latest models; they do this by de-optimising TVs purchased a couple of years prior through firmware upgrades that reduce black levels and by not providing the latest features such as HDR 10+. This has been going on for several years and...………….it really sucks.
  14. Just a further comment - the smaller sizes in the Sony 8500G will likely utilise an IPS panel. IPS panel technology is very good if a wide viewing angle is a priority due to seating arrangements. But this comes with a significant drop in contrast. I purchased an LG LCD TV with an IPS panel several years ago and it was hopeless in dark scenes, particularly with movies. If wide angle viewing is a priority then go with an IPS panel, however if this is not an issue, then avoid LG, Panasonic and lower end Sony LCD televisions. Samsung, Hisense, TCL and high end Sony and Panasonic LCD LEDs use VA panels which produce superior contrast with poor viewing angles. Swings and roundabouts but its VA panels for me every time.
  15. The step up is Full Array Local Dimming (FALD). Definitely worth it IMHO, especially for screen sizes above 65" when watching movies. FALD combined with the wider colour gamut and greater peak brightness of the higher end models will give HDR movies greater pop and is better for watching in a dark room. The Sony 9500G and the Samsung Q75R have a limited number of dimming zones but very good local dimming algorithms. If you are not so much of a movie buff and just watch general TV, sports etc then go with the edge lit 8500G or Q60R. Screen uniformity, contrast and brightness will still be pretty decent on these models. Happy hunting.
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