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Thank you 100945 for the reply i will get onto the taps this weekend...I did lots of google searches for taps to suit the criteria and they all came up with nothing, I guess i should have asked here first. again thanks!! so sick of addiing suffixes etc to toppy files.

Can this unit do this yet?...I miss it awfully since our old toppy 7100 died....atm I am painfully renaming every red dwarf file (because it's too dumb to pick a new non conflicting prefix like the 7100 could) and copying each one by one (because it will not allow any more than one at a time....dunno why) to the external drive....it's almost as user friendly as that commodore 64 I had way way back. Really painful stuff...anyone know?

Yeah sorry people I was talking about the 2400 not the BW...my bad structure, was in a bit to much of a hurry. BW now wins hands down over the (topfield) 2400 IMO if one doesn't need quad.

I was in the identical place a month ago (except that for my 7100 was a robust machine and still kicking on well) Just buy the trf2400/60 there is really no other option, your like me i just wanted something that was step up from the 7100 and didnt make more work to do simple core things, I dont need flash stuff....the 2400 failed here with more button presses over the 7100 and some simple things like moving a same named recording to a folder from the default position would be outright denied (you kidding right!!) nope because it has not the logic to add a suffix in the new folder lol...trully an amazing senario for a PVR. Anyway quad recording is great buit only ever seen tri so far, I would point you toward the Beyond wiz P2for a far fuller machine out of the box than the 4500 could ever be but no quad..not seemless recording either when another tunes starts up, gets some pixelation skip back 4 seconds at these times on the vision you are viewing. The ease of use the 7100 had over the P2 (i own both) is gone with the 4500....onwards and upwards. Taps are clunky and largely vile pieces of software compared to well packaged out of the box propietyry offerings but I did find one that allowed the 4500 to more or less (not as well as the 7100) delete a recording whilestill watching it (saved the entire machine from storage/ebay). oh one more thing....seriously it's hard to believe but a person is forced to watch a large chunk of the end of a recording as the skip forward doesn't advance to the truer end of the recording like the 7100 can so you sit there waiting for the recording to end of it's oven volition or deliberatly chase up the stop button...oh and thats another thing dont expect the 4500 to revert back to the fil/folder you played the recording from you will need to chase it aup again. cannot do series delete/move/copy either...no joke!! remote drives my wife crazy it clicks at about 90db with every button press, in the dark each end is identical until one brailes (sp) the buttons...rubbish unit at todays levels. Yep it's a piece of junk in 80% of all core useabilty over the 7100 but it is faster (but usuer input messier) and does quad/ handles the exterfnal drive 50% better but without series move why bother ...two steps back and one forward is a good way of categorising theis offering LOL! IMO. cheers

I recently moved up (actually sidewys) from the 7100 pvrt to the 2400, the 2400 misses quite a few nice things the 7100 had but it is faster. I too looked for that option, doesnt seen to exist. The blue button I found came preprogrammed for 10 sec skip back which was lucky as it was the setting I chose on the 7100. One day topfied will get it right....taps are a bit of a letdown in restoring some of the quality core duties of a PVR that it lacks after the 7100. cheers

Interesting as it is simply not possible to be happy with the new topfields core functions behavior in comparison to the old unit unless one simply accepts that modern is better, no way the designers could be users IMO. The new toppy has some very good things over the old one, don't anyone get me wrong here but they are all none core/set top box related except for it's handling of external HDD/files this portion of the new PVRs core function has it all over the old 7100. Ice simply will not work properly so far will get to that never ending on an off saga some time when I can be bothered.

Oh Ok, possibly I should look into taps, fairly critiqued am i still going to be disappointed???, the user experience of the new topfield transcends the just does things differently/used to idea...it's truly and obliquely just a horrible unit in user comparison, I have had a BW P2 sitting next to the old toppy in the lounge room for well over 2 years already so know the BW experience inside out, the new toppy now takes it's leafs straight from the BWs book but more badly, IMO. i shall do a little researching into taps ( thanks for the tip), I was not planning to but hey this thing is fast in a straight line (all things set top box) lol.

yep improving this product seems to have gone the way of oval wheels from what was once round ones, do the designers ever actually use PVR's? The old toppy was a Ferrari this thing is a wood sided family sedan with a big motor, fast in a straight line although cornering is useless as is the brakes, most roads are never forever only straight like in a desert. Lucky I can Indian give from my daughter the old toppy, the BW P2 was the loungeroom backup because of it's clunkyness that turns a 2 minute 7100 exercise in file management into 5 minutes, this new offering toppy - once one renames a gross number of files and moves them individually necessitating traveling through a procession of new screens/pages each time makes the time required nearer to 10 minutes and quadruples the chance of making a mistake through nothing more than mindless boredom. Seriously if I had of ever read a fair critique of this unit I would never have bought it and I warn everyone away from it with their cash ATM, I assume now mine is working properly. Absolutely Buy the BW instead or possibly one of the other more upcoming brands, the BW is a fairly laborious user experience compared to the old toppys but not compared to the new toppys, the core reason to own a good one of these now resides at the wreckers....this unit signals the end of my years long topfield PVR purchasing experience. My daughter can have it.

Thanks Paul, first I thought it was junk, then read your reply so I followed it in the hope it was a dud somehow, included a couple of formats also to get it back to as basic again as when I did the first firmware update, now back to the latest firmware after also testing the former firmware with no luck.. Now I back to thinking it' just junk again compared to the non HD 7100 anyway. How come people don't complain that one cannot record a program in it's default place...move it to a folder, record another different episode of that same program (so the toppy gives it the same name) BUT this program cannot be moved into the same folder as the first one because it will not add a differentiating numerical suffix....gobsmacked I am!!! Also how come I cannot delete a recording on the fly. while watching .....it really strange I am forced to go all BW here! How come I cannot select multiple recordings from the default place and move these as a batch to a folder! ....really hopeless again. spoilt by the 7100 i suppose. The P2 gets better marks in the above now than this toppy, the old toppy got full marks in the above. Does it still sound broken??? It seems to be but without another known good unit to test side by side this might be as good as it gets...other little things but on these core PVR issues so far it has been an epic fail. cheers

I bought one of these 2 days ago, I cannot believe how terrible it is compared to the 4yo7100 pvrt unit it is replacing. Sure it's more powerful, channels change faster and external hard drive support behaves better than code written by monkey in a dark room but is still a bit hopeless and here the 'advantages' end. I upgraded the firmware before doing anything else to this unit straight from the box so am running the November version, Seriously what a piece of utter junk, keeps telling me I cannot delete recorded programs because they are still in play when they are not or that it cannot do it in continuous of which it is not......cannot move recorded programs from default position to other folders because it tells me that the file name already exists in the folder I need it moved to. This unit ATM is almost totally and utterly unusable for any use above a dedicated set top box of which it does a good job. Seriously if your considering one of these think twice I want my 7100 back again....at least it did what the buttons on the remote told it to. Also the remote is crap compared to the 7100, noisy and buttons poorly differentiated in comparison and ice simply refuses to work. I put up with a lot before the final 7100 firmware upgrade....topfield is up to it's old behaviors again I suppose, easy to tell. The 7100 was a far and better unit than our beyonewiz P2 but this brand new 2400 ranks well below the P2. What a hunk of utter junk IMO lol

Ok fixed the problem, bought a masterpice yesterday as the new main lounge recorder, the 7100 is now heading to my daughters room on loan and her toppro 2k is to be on loan in the parents bedroom. problem solved.lol cheers

Cheers, No on the 7100 and the P2 the problem is quite minor esp as they have within their menu volume compensation to account for it, but the toppro has it in a big way and has no compensation within. Tried the toppros audio settings, uber basic they are. no 5.1 in my daughters room. Might need to try the RGB cables instead and see if the toppro does a better job through these than HDMI. Still it's a pain in this day and age even the most inadequate set top boxs sold at woolworths etc can get this right yet topfield/pro didn't.

Cheers, No on the 7100 and the P2 the problem is quite minor esp as they have within their menu volume compensation to account for it, but the toppro has it in a big way and has no compensation within. Tried the toppros audio settings, uber basic they are. no 5.1 in my daughters room. Might need to try the RGB cables instead and see if the toppro does a better job through these than HDMI. Still it's a pain in this day and age even the most inadequate set top boxs sold at woolworths etc can get this right yet topfield/pro didn't.

I just checked it's not the hdmi cable nor is it the TV it's the unit, when watching FTA through HDMI on the Toppro 2000 then one changes to watch digital TV the volume at the TV is now 100% louder than the toppros setting....need to decrease the TVs volume by 50% to reach previous viewing levels. This is a pretty serious fault...probably a bug, poor architecture etc......not a useable machine in the real world today IMO. Would love to hear if anyone with this unit has the same problem, to return it it's a 60km round trip and then possibly to return with another one with the identical fault. Our beyonwiz has the same problem but not as bad, the twin tuner toppy too but better again, this toppro thing is WAY out there!

Yeah I did, I will try today changing out the HDMI and then if no joy set it up to the main TV which already has 3 pvrs attached, only ever come across this problem this bad once before and that was with a sony VCR after sony scrapped their higher quality standards.

Bought my 7yo one of these for her room so we in the lounge don't have to deal with abc 3 programs clogging up the grown ups topfield. Anyway I set it up today, problem seems to be on hdmi the volume output is very very very low, there is no volume ofset in the toppros menu. obviously this is a childs single tuner, turning the tv down from full volume each time she want to watch what is a not being recorded is simply not on. Anyone else had this problem, with this unit? worried it is a bug and not a fault.

Mine does it every once in a blue moon but a power cycle fixes it like you say, the beyonwiz does this more regular and with the same fix. You could try a full factory reset with disk format and even a firmware reload....then keep fingers crossed when it's all up and running again.......in this instance one will need to suck it to see Such constant dropouts would also push me towards an upgrade....put the old unit in the bedroom or kids room. good luck

Correct the G stopped working this morning and by lunch I had the U out of the box, figure one of the two assuming the warranty experience is a good one will end up in the bedroom and no body here will care how long it takes to get the G fixed. Will ring about warranty tomorrow or Monday, bit nervous about how it will go but already feeling somewhat better about buying the warranty. (read lots when I did my original plasma research how warranty was for suckers) Will see. Happy now that the real viewing size of the U is the same even if it doesn't look like it when watching it. cheers

Ahh I see, I just had a look at the two i have here, it seems the G has a black surround in-screen leading to the bezel, the P50U has the viewable area hard up to the bezel. I don't know what the warranty people are going to do, completely happy to have it fixed or replaced with a different brand if they will not fix it, never been in this situation before, JBHIfi extended warranty. Interestingly the moment i started up the new TV it flickered pretty bad, never see this before with the G, in the end I turned of a resolution option in the menu and that seemed to fix it. cheers Wish I could afford atm to spring for a 55, like you say and in my instance it might even fit in the car considering the G50 fitted reasonably well.

The 2009 Panasonic p50G died this morning (bought the warranty luckily), I jump on the net to look for an equivalent Panasonic replacement in the meantime, couldn't find one so I chose the P50U30A. Does anyone know that this TV has a physically smaller screen than the 50G has!!!!...noticeably, noticed it straight away, wondered why this box was an easier fit into the car than the G was, no quandary here anymore. Never seen it mentioned before on the net that modern Panasonic's in the 50 are a smaller screen size, is this common knowledge? if not it should be...straight away we missed the standard territory of the G.

Hi all I spent 4 days copying all of the family's home taped video to the old Panasonic SD PVR at 1:1 only to find the Panas DVD burner has become flakey so i have spent more days now transferring again from the pana at 1:1 to the P2....so painful this process!!, lucky i like my family. Anyway now I plan to get these files from the P2 via a USB stick into the PC for converting and burning to DVD. Trouble is i am not sure where to start once I have the P2 files on flash. Anyone point me in the best direction/software/procedure to end up with a DVD that will play in any DVD player?? cheers

Thanks Peter, the 7100+ does look the goods, worried the nice user functions have been deleted straight from the box, i do doubt i would add taps unless desperate for a deleted function. Just a new PVR that is a true PVR at it's core and behaves like one without mod would be nice, I have a P2 which does some other stuff but it's a nuisance relatively speaking to use as a dedicated PVR compared to the Toppy. This one has decided to behave it's self again this little while, will keep my fingers crossed. cheers

Hi all my Toppy has developed a fault, after a while when turned on but unused it will stop responding to any command. The only way to fix it is to turn it off and back on but the problem will repeat again. I noticed too that no timers get taken up when this happens so it's effective dead in the water until i reboot. Is this a known fault with age? Thinking too that if I need to buy another one do the new Toppys work just as well as this one does (did) as a PVR, ie speed, skip function, the basics and do the new ones allow when setting timers and there is a conflict...do they display the actual name of the conflicting program/s?? The lack of that on this unit drives me up the wall!! cheers

P2 has pretty bad reception, we are on the fringe and it plays up often when all the other gear behind it on the daisy chain still works fine. Every now and then someone comes on here or elsewhere asking much the same question regarding reception, dunno if your is this but it's the first thing i would check, we just live with it.

yeah get the 7100 or the + if I understand that bit right. We have the 7100 and a P2 500g, the 7100 for PVR use is a joy compared to the P2. Try living with both (it's nice) we need the P2 for it's media abilities and every now and then a backup for when the TV stations stack a timeslot, helps keep everyone happy.