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Yes I know exactly what you mean.Good luck with that. I was looking for over a year and couldn't find one. Ended up with the cary 7.125 to match my 11a. The combo is absolutely superb. Unless you have hungry speakers you won't need the bigger model. I've seen only a couple from the US which were around 6k. Not worth getting from OS at the moment.
I've been looking for close to 2 years and there was only one opportunity and I missed out on it.
A friend and work colleague was looking for a Cinema 11a and found one together with a 7.250 selling in the 2nd hand section of Len Wallis and only $5.5k for both units!
Unfortunately it was sold as soon as it appeared on the Len Wallis website.
Bummer...
Haven't seen a local one for sale since.
As far as a 7.250 from the USA, you would need to modify it for 240V.
I assume it would be the same transformer as a 110V unit but just a different tap for 240V, but I don't really know and would be defeating the purpose using a 110V / 240V step-down tranny.
No one should be using 110V / 240V step down trannies for hifi use.
You are correct in that even for $6k, by the time you add shipping, GST, etc, it will owe you way more than $7k.
By then you might as well save up a bit more for a new one through David at Wavetrain.
Very nice guy & very knowledgeable. I acquired my Cinema 12 through him.
There was a immediate improvement in sound when swapping out my old Arcam AV9 with the Cinema 12. It very much suits my ProAcs.
I understand that Cary Audio's tube gear is known to partner well with the ProAcs and apparently Cary try to keep the same sonic signature throughout which is why I went with the Cinema 12. I am very happy with it.
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Looking for a Cary Audio 7.250 Power Amplifier.
I was running a Cary Cinema 12 with my old Arcam P7 from my previous setup for a couple of years now, but the P7 has just packed it in, so I'm looking to get the matching Cary Audio 7.250 to replace it.
Would love to buy it new but my partner is expecting, so I can't afford it at the moment.
(Note: Not interested in 110V unit)
I'm located in Ramsgate Beach, Sydney.
cheers.
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Imo there is absolutely no doubt that you are entitled to get your money back.
You paid for a product and it is not fit for purpose.
The fact that it is a $10000 RRP unit and can't do the basic function of a unit likely costing as little as 2% of its retail price is absolutely unbelievable.
Lodge a complaint to the Dept of Fair Trading. They would love to hear from you.
You can do it on-line.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us...ecomplaintclick
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Re the dishwasher Jim, your the one that was stating you'd keep your dishwasher because it was SO good
, not me. Ie, yours is better than somebody else's.The rubbish doesn't stop.
Read my post again...I'll repeat it here...
"Whether an air-con or a dishwasher is considered a luxury item depends on the owner, the appliance age, what it costs, and suitability in the new premises."
For me personally, I don't want to fork out another $2k for the same dishwasher, as compared to something old that is worth close to nothing, and maybe I want to renovate the kitchen of my new home and buy a new and/or better unit.
And re the air con, every body is saying they shouldn't have to repair holes in a building left by AV cables so technically a small hole in the brickwork wouldn't be looked at any differently in a court of law.Disagree.
I believe it would be looked at very differently because the air-con hole is letting in the cold, wind, rain or even snow, while the other AV hole affects the internal wall only.
The only technical thing about it is they are both holes, but the impact to the persons living inside is very different.
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Your air con argument doesn't hold up. Regardless of whether you can do it yourself a split system is no more difficult to remove than a TV. Unplug a few pipes and the power and your away. The unit outside is free standing if on the ground level or GOD FORBID on a bracket if put on the wall upstairs. To a layperson it's no different to a Wall mounted TV. People make a very good living installing tv's as most people don't know how to hook it all up. How many of the members have done this for friends or parents because they don't have a clue?
That is the biggest load of horseshit on DTVforum I've come across.
Is there a prize for dumbest post of the year?
For a start...what are you going to do about the big gaping hole in the wall that's left behind, letting all the wind, rain or even snow into the lounge room?!?!?!?!
Most up market homes leave the dishwasher regardless it's cost as they are usually now a matching set to the oven and cook top as our Smeg dishwasher is. We are leaving it. The vendors of the new house are leaving their Bosch one too which probably costs more than yours.Ohh... "his one is better than yours."
Grow up.
Did you get bashed a lot at school?
Anyway you guys obviously only want to look at it in regards to a "you can take my TV from my cold dead hand" point of view. I've had enough of that discussion as we aren't comparing apples with apples....which is pretty much what you are doing.
You really have no idea do you?
I find it's funny that several people think I'm being unreasonable dispute grey areas in the law yet think the owner shouldn't have to leave the house in a reasonable state if they take things with them. I never thought the TV would be included until after signing the contract. We put our house on the market 2 weeks later and our selling agent made us aware to specifically exclude our AV equipment in the section 32 if we wanted to keep it. That's what made me ask the question here.Isn't it amazing you had this epiphany after you signed.
Bottom line... you're just trying to scam someone else's TV.
I think it comes down to common decency of the vendor.ROFL!!!...as you have done in this instance as a buyer I suppose... ROFL!!!
graham johnson was 100% spot-on in his assessment of you.
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Ill be asking the agent tomorrow and will not fight or have a hissy fit if they say no. If he wants to sell it and it's a newish quality model I might think about it. But I will be asking that the wall be made good if the tv goes as their bracket may well be too big for my 42" plasma but to leave cabling exposed and labelled if it remains.
ROFL...You can't be serious?
I'd be saying to you... "you've got yourself a tv wall bracket for nothing. It's not my fault your tv is too big. Go buy yourself a smaller tv to suit."
What makes it even funnier is you expect the vendor to label the cabling for you as well!
I wonder weather a non AV enthusiast would have the same view that the mount is separate to the TV. Same argument could be used for a split system air con. They have a bracket which they sit on too but they are considered a fixture. In fact just about everything these days is mounted using a mount or bracket. Only a few years ago when dishwashers were considered a luxury item they were often removed by the vendor, now virtually nobody does, it is assumed that they stay unless in the list of exclusions.To attempt to imply that the TV placed on a wall-mount is as much a fixture as a split system air-con is frankly, utter rubbish.
In most cases a TV is simply lifted off its wall mount and taken away, so like a picture frame, the TV itself is not a fixture.
You're forgetting that only the head of the Air-Con sits on a wall mount bracket.
What about the rest of it, i.e. compressor etc on the other side of the wall outside?
Also Air-conditioners are likely much more challenging and costly to remove and re-install (i.e. degas maybe?, re-gas etc).
Furthermore removing the hoses will leave a huge gaping hole in the wall to the outside world which would have to be fixed.
With the low price of most split air-cons these days, it will likely cost as much to uninstall and re-install than just simply buying and installing a new one at your new address.
Whether an air-con or a dishwasher is considered a luxury item depends on the owner, the appliance age, what it costs, and suitability in the new premises.
My dishwasher is a relatively new stainless steel double-drawer Fisher and Paykel costing nearly $2k, so I would take it with me. If it was a cheap ageing Westinghouse, I would leave it behind.
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IMO that is just plainly WRONG. IF you had a reasonable expectation you where going to get the TV, you would have written it into the contract. To try to do it later by insisting its a fixture then trying to screw the seller out of it is extremely wrong and not in the spirit of the sale.
I agree 100%.
If the purchaser manages to "win" the argument and keep the TV, do you really think it will still work when the the new owner moves in.
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I've asked this question in my setup and construction thread but thought it would get more focus here...
We are moving into our new home in a few weeks and the vendor has a large flat screen tv on the wall and he didn't exclude it in the sale or in the contract.
As it is bolted to the wall I would argue it is a fixture and part of the house. I'm not going to bother creating a big issue over it but I believe I'm within my rights to ask for it to stay.
I know I made it abundantly clear that my AV equipment was not included in the sale of our house and removed the HT system before going on the market.
I hazard a guess the TV wall bracket is a fixture as it is fixed to the wall, so unless specified otherwise that would stay I think.
....but the TV?
...seriously champ, you're kidding.
The TV is not fixed, the bracket is.
Commonsense tells you that AV cables particularly speaker cables are likely fixed in some way i.e. adhesive cable holders, ties, etc.
Even if the speaker cables are loosely routed through cavities, do you really think that anyone in general would take these with them these since they are usually cut to length to suit the installation?
The exception of course being exotic cable like expensive Van Del Hul, Chord etc which surely you would specify in the contract terms.
I can understand completely the very negative reaction by others to your original post.
If I were the vendor I would be insulted if the interested buyer tried to pull a stunt like the one you're suggesting, and I would immediately instruct my Real Estate Agent in no uncertain terms to go tell the interested buyer to "go **** himself".
If already sold, I would simply take my TV and tell the buyer, "good luck if you want to do something about it".
...that is unless of course the purchaser is paying way over what my property is worth, and in that instance, I would offer my wife ahead of the TV.
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I noticed that Unstoppable (Blu-ray+DVD Copy+Digital Copy) was only just released in Oz on 9th of June, and EzyDVD are selling it for $39.97.
I purchased it with free shipping from Amazon UK for only 14.11gbp on the 27th April and it was ex-stock!
I received it weeks ago!
Is this usually the case?
I mean, are BD discs released way earlier overseas than Oz?
If that's the case, you would have to be nuts to buy locally.
You pay 100's of % more for the privilege of waiting months longer for the title!
Surely the local on-line retailers are on borrowed time.
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Great news and you gotta love those prices.
Picked up The Godfather Coppola Restoration (Blu-Ray) box set included in one order a couple of weeks back, reduced to less than 15gbp and with the the super saver free delivery.
A very popular local on-line seller are currently selling it for almost $150!
No longer will I fund the waterfront properties and Bentleys owned by such business owners.
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Hi,
Ref 600 are less reliable than the mkII,and mkIII models and the later models have the improvements from ref300,and mkII models.
Sound wise unmatched even with SET amps(well 99% of them) and are designed for the ref speakers from various manufacturers,(Magico,Gyphon audio etc )
Retubing can be expensive from $2500/amp ,$6000/amp for tubes tested by audio research and then to , EAT Kt88 $10000 + / amp and then you can use NOS tubes .
Heat output is very high due to running Class A to 200 watts , room will be approx 10c above normal room temp with 20kw aircon on for room only.Without large aircon on you will not last long in room .
Cheers Victor.
I remember reading on Audiogon, I think an ARC dealer stating that even the VTM200 was better sounding than the original reference amps, while the current Ref110 and Ref210 are significantly better again and in every way sounded better than the early reference amps. The opinion of the ARC dealer was that the early reference amps sounded grainy and compressed by comparison.
Of high praise was the relatively bargain buy VS115 integrated which apparently sounds very much like the the current reference series.
It seems there are better and more practical alternatives from ARC than their old reference amps, so I guess it can be understood why maybe the Ref600 hasn't been picked up.
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I remember seeing these advertised maybe a year ago by the same dealer for about $15k, before they were dropped to $10k, but there still doesn't appear to be any takers even at that price.
These units have also spent long stints on ebay and Audiogon.
It does seem like a bargain though, new tubes etc, so I really can't understand why they haven't sold.
I can only guess it's because they are the very first Reference 600's (i.e. very old, reliability issues maybe?), and I have read that the later reference series (mkII, mkIII, 110, 210 & 610T), are as expected, sonically superior.
Though not as powerful, the current Reference 210's can be had for around the same price on the 2nd hand market from Audiogon or ebay (US).
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"Never heard better sound... couldn't tell the difference between the 93 and the 95... measured well..."
Sounds to me like the reviewer doesn't really have a clue and is not experienced with reviewing audio.
...you forgot to include this one...
"...if your other components have medium levels of distortion, it would be best to have the source with as low distortion as possible, so that it does not push the total amount of system distortion into a range that is really noticeable."
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No, there just won't be too many negative statements in general.
But the claims on SQ will be very good and everything will be "great, superb" etc...
Wow. I see what you mean!
They're certainly very defensive as you have experienced.
When one early adopter comes out and remembers $10k transports not sounding as good, and another found that an older CD was "unlistenable" on the "Oppo" and therefore was "too good",
or analytical and thin is a "good thing".
Well, that'll do me.
I'm taking the fanboy reviews over there with a grain of salt.
Hopefully there will be some published positive expert reviews on the 95 before the expected upcoming Group Buy.
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No, there just won't be too many negative statements in general.
Pay attention though to the quirks of software, crashes and reliability issues. These do get reflected.
But the claims on SQ will be very good and everything will be "great, superb" etc...
I see you've ruffled a few feathers over at AVS.
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I will watch and see. .. These early adopters are a carefully picked lot. There won't be too much negative feedback.
Thumbs up in you trying to get the early adopters to put forward unbiased reviews.
Would I be right in saying that their opinions will likely be based against the Oppo devices they currently own?
I would prefer to know how it stacks up against the high-end BD players from Denon and Marantz.
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It appears from AVSForum (Official OPPO BDP-95 Anticipation Thread) that Oppo BDP-95's are ready to be picked from Oppo up by customers.
Hopefully there will be some reviews very shortly.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post19914870
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Totally agree but a Oppo BDP-95 is going to cost more than a grand:
BDP-95 $999
Shipping $150
Multi Region $150
GST $110
$1400+
Hopefully the upcoming group buy will keep it cheap, and it's still better than paying
$14000+
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other application as mentioned is where say stuck with a non hdmi legacy lexicon or some old thing that cost you $15k back in the day and cant get $1k for it. rather than taking a bath on that selling for a pittance something like the 95 is way to go over multichannel analog. presumably this old piece is still got it over multichannel analog, but yeah I can tell you there will still be compromises due to limitations in setup. and the day you move onto hdmi you'll never look back for mutlichannel hd audio.
I agree.
I also think audio quality bang for your buck should be taken into consideration.
The $15k "old thing" might be worth $1k today (maybe a slight exaggeration), but it doesn't change the fact that it was, and still is a $15k audiophile quality kit (i.e. good design, quality components, power supply etc.).
Today, its replacement with full HDMI, HD Audio decoding, Audyssey capability, etc added, will still cost you $15k or more today, much like the top-of-the-line Denon separates (very nice indeed).
If you are interested more in audio quality and don't want to break the bank, I believe it is more cost-effective to use high-end legacy separates, and spend a grand on an Opp BDP-95 and use the 7.1 analogue outs. Without Audyssey, full HDMI, HD audio decoding etc, set-up and convenience is not quite as good of course, but hey, you will have most if not all of the audiophile quality of the much more expensive "up-to-date" unit and still have $14k change in your pocket.
My comments above are just based on my experience a couple of years ago when I decided to purchase Arcam AV9/P7 separates in a run-out sale from SevenOaks in the UK (i.e. 2.5k gbp landed in Oz, as opposed to RRP of $21k from CAV!), rather than purchasing, for the same money, an "up-to-date" mid-range single box solution with underwhelming audio quality from Pioneer, Yamaha, etc, etc.
In summary, the Oppo BDP-95 with its on-board HD audio decoding and high quality analogue outs allows you to hold onto your hi-end legacy separates and both your kidneys.
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or already own it, so I know I like it already
...But why???
That's the only problem I can see where you might need professional help.
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do you think your respondent might have found your question slightly inflammatory? I would.
Benje
On its own, possibly, but I don't think in the context of what is going on here, as I will explain. Furthermore I only quoted what the salesman copy and pasted in his response.
My entire email was as follows:
"Dear Sir,
I am interested in purchasing an Oppo BDP-95 when it becomes available, and would consider getting it upgraded to a NuForce Xtreme Edition but there is a major issue I can see.
Your product page rehashes in a vague way, what will be already be available in a standard Oppo BDP-95.
I understand you will sell the Oppo BDP-95 Nuforce Xtreme Edition for $2495.
So considering that is $1500 more than the price of the standard unit, what specifically do I get for $1500 of my hard-earned money?
Cheers,
Jim"
Prior to writing the above email, I noted that at least in another post, enquiries had been made to Nuforce in regards to the above subject, but with no result.
I therefore decided a more direct approach was required.
I should point out also that my email was sent to their sales team email address (i.e. salesteam@nuforce.com).
You therefore would sincerely hope that a salesman of a company you owned would have a much "thicker" skin than to possibly be "inflamed" by the above email
(though my subsequent reply to his response certainly would have
). In the end, it should be pointed out that after a number of posts about the subject, I sort of "got the truth" out of them, or "let the cat out of the bag" so to speak,
i.e. that they have picked a figure of $1500 for an "upgrade" and are not sure of its composition.
Knowing this now, I must say I don't have a problem with it. I.e.
Their price point could have been determined from the set of (upgrade) requirements they likely have already developed, and are still determining whether the design, implementation and test can be met within that price point. Only then will they be able to determine whether all the requirements can be met, or have to be revised, at which point more information will be released.
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Hissssss.... snake oil alert...
Its a bit "Goldmund" like isn't it?
Nuts to Nu force...
Very much so.
Their response simply should have been,
"Thank you for your enquiry. We will release further details as they are made available...etc."
...and that would have been enough.
Instead this Nuforce wanker has simply insulted the intelligence of a potential customer.
I did not ask for details of their design, nor did I ask if it "sounded" $1500 "better" than the standard unit, which is of course ridiculous.
I simply would like to know what I am paying for, i.e. specs, components used etc, just like when you look at the technical specs of any other piece of kit.
I am a practicing electrical engineer of almost 30 years experience and holding a senior position in the field, as well as an audiophile for even longer than that, and I don't need some snotty nosed wanker that I can teach a thing or two, talking down to me.
The response is enough to tell me the kind of people that work in Nuforce, of which I now want to have nothing to do with.
...snake oil anyone?
Nuforce, aka wankers.
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To everyone that is considering purchasing an Oppo 95 NXE upgrade from Nuforce, please take note of the response I received from Nuforce:
First my request:
"So considering that is $1500 more than the price of the standard unit, what specifically do I get for $1500 of my hard-earned money?"
Nuforce Response:
"We said enough on the website and I think you just have to wait for reviews. Regardless of what we said, ultimately you are going to pay for what you can HEAR. If we said it is made of platinum and you can't tell the difference, it is worthless to you. So when we completed the design and have chance to evaluate the result, you will hear more about it. We generally never disclose clearly details of the design, this has been our approach to guard our trade secrets.
Thanks
Jason"
I find the above response arrogant.
Suffice to say, I would not piss on Nuforce if they were on fire let alone purchase their "upgrade".
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The Denons and Marantz flagships are older, slower and don't do 3D or 1.4 HDMI.
The latter may not be important, but most people won't buy a top drawer unit and have to make tea before the player responds. Opppo knows that too.
And the differences in audio performance may be less than we think (I can't say since I don't have the 95 yet)
I agree re: audio performance.
I guess it depends on your requirements.
I have a Pioneer LX609 flat screen which I intend to use as my main panel for a few years to come, so I don't need HDMI 1.4.
Furthermore I would only use the 7.1 analogue outputs for audio into my Arcam AV9.
Finally, I have absolutely ZERO interest in 3D as it does absolutely nothing for me and imo it is rubbish.
The Denon/Marantz units might be older but I expect they are built much better than the Oppo though I really don't know as I have not owned either.
Another factor for me is you are likely to get a better 2nd hand resale return in the future for the Denon DVD-A1UD / Marantz UD9004 when you consider you have purchased a $10k RRP unit for around $3k+ from Singapore.
How much will you get for the Oppo 95 NXE if you decide to upgrade in 2 or 3 years time when you have already paid full (RRP) price for it?
At then end of the day, all 3 units will end up costing approximately the same price landed in Oz, so a comparison should be made once the Oppo 95NXE is released.
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Thanks David,
PM sent.
cheers,
Jim