re-boot
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Why not look at the SD versions (in the 200's) of your HD channels and then you can compare PQ and if its worth reducing.
Good point hey.
I'll do that as I never ventured into that territory.
I always thought it was odd the put the "200's" before the "100's" when surfing through channels, but I guess I now know why.
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Current HD Foxtel Cable Channels Bitrate and transponder config
Cab 263000 6950
Discovery HD 5 Mbps
ESPN HD 7 Mbps
ESPN2 HD 6.7 Mbps
Fox Sports 2 HD 10 Mbps
FOX8 HD 7 Mbps
ThrillerCrime HD 4.7 Mbps
Cab 271000 6950
3D Channel 10 Mbps
ActionAdv HD 3.6 Mbps
Fox Sports 3HD 10 Mbps
FX HD 5.1 Mbps
Nat Geo HD 5.5 Mbps
SoHo HD 5.6 Mbps
UKTV HD 4.5 Mbps
Cab 279000 6950
A&E HD 7.3 Mbps
BBC Know HD 6.3 Mbps
Comedy HD 6.7 Mbps
DramaRom HD 3.8 Mbps
Fox Sports 1HD 11 Mbps
Premiere HD 5.5 Mbps
Showcase HD 5.5 Mbps
Cab 287000 6950
Family HD 3.9 Mbps
FOX FOOTY HD 11 Mbps
LifeStyle HD 5 Mbps
Masterpiece HD 4 Mbps
MTV Live HD 5.5 Mbps
NatGeoWild HD 5.5 Mbps
SPEED HD 11Mbps
Hi mate.
Just wondering...
I don't know where or how you get that info, but can you post the bitrates, etc, for the SD channels as well?
The HD channels (the ones that I watch) have turned to crap now and look nothing like HD, so I'm wondering if I should reduce my package and stick to just the SD channels now.
Cheers man.
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Well, I have to say this is pretty much the first time I've been very disappointed with Foxtel.
I've been pretty much happy until now, but with the changes in the movie packages and the VERY noticable drop in quality, I'm actually pretty put off.
Foxtel seems to be rapidly becoming a second rate product/service.
I'll need to review my package and/or tenure.
Just adding to this...
I just cannot beleive they have Safehouse on their Premiere HD Channel, playing again within the space of only a few hours on the same channel.
Really!?
Totally new low they've sunk to.
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No, there are many transponders on the sat and available cable channels that they could use, but they choose not to.
Well, I have to say this is pretty much the first time I've been very disappointed with Foxtel.
I've been pretty much happy until now, but with the changes in the movie packages and the VERY noticable drop in quality, I'm actually pretty put off.
Foxtel seems to be rapidly becoming a second rate product/service.
I'll need to review my package and/or tenure.
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There's only 51.2 Mbps total bandwidth available in each DVB-S2 transponder for all the video and audio and EPG streams. If you need more you lease another transponder that costs $$$ extra per month.
Are they currently using/utilising the maximum amount of bandwidth available?
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They have changed, I don't know exactly when. Frankly, I can't believe the Premiere movies channel would have the 2nd LOWEST bitrate priority on the multiplex. Maybe Foxtel now allocates the bitrates based on how many people watch each channel these days and with movie subscriptions dropping off they don't care to allocate them decent quality!
12011H transponder:
A&E HD: 7.58 Mbps
BBC Know HD: 5.4 Mbps
Comedy HD: 7.06 Mbs
DramaRom HD: 5.79 Mbps
Fox Sports 1HD: 9.38 Mbps
Premiere HD: 5.04 Mbps
Showcase HD: 4.78 Mbps
12052H transponder:
Discovery HD: 5.00 Mbps
ESPN HD: 5.60 Mbps
ESPN2 HD: 8.30 Mbps
Fox Sports 2HD: 10.50 Mbps
FOX8 HD: 4.23 Mbps
ThrillerCrime HD: 6.32 Mbps
I knew it! It's really very noticable.
That's totally ridiculous, and the logic behind the bandwidth allocation is beyond me.
Are they that limited regarding bandwidth and bitrates that they have to do this?
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Is it my imagination, or has Fox 8HD and the new Premiere HD channel taken a big hit?
Premiere HD looks like SD, and Fox 8HD used to look good, but looks like SD now.
Have there been any changes?
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Hey,
Just curious, as Google didn't provide me with any hits or explanations.
Just wondering why when I go into settings and signal test, some tuners just appear with "unlocked" rather than showing signal strength and quality.
Not always the same tuners, and sometimes it's just one or two.
I know it never used to be like this, but just noticed it since I had my LNB re-aligned just recently.
Anyone know?
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This is turning into another LCD vs Plasma thread.
But getting back on topic, as I've mentioned before, my Panasonic VT20 (supposedly the best plasma for it's time in 2010) has blacks that are on par with my Sony LCD which is 3 or 4 years older. I'd dare to say even worse.
I'm also talking about night time, in a dim viewing environment.
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was more referring to the 2011 models?
Sorry, I misundetstood.
Not sure about the ST, as again, I wasn't interested in this model.
But with the GT and VT, yes, they were all affected to varying degrees across NA, Europe and Australasia.
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I haven't read any reviews of the GT, as I'm not interested in that model.
No word on the VT as yet, as I don't think it's available to the public just yet.
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can anyone actually see it when viewing REAL content? as opposed to a full-white screen
As with the 2011 models, yes.
Particularly on skin tones and greys.
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Seems to be the TC-P50X1 720p model, I can't find mention of any of the 1080p models. Mind you, I don't read many forums. I also think that some of these problems are really only noticed by people who look for them, I'm not sure I'd even notice unless it was blatantly obvious.
It may also be the case with the P50 (add another one to the list!), but there's posts popping up at HDJ and AVS of the ST50 being plagued by them also.
It was even touched upon in a review posted earlier.
It's there, and it's real, and it's a worry.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21836250#post21836250
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21838053#post21838053
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Be warned that there are reports springing up that the 2012 models also suffer from screen uniformity issues - as did the 2011 models.
Panasonic just don't seem to be able to get the basics right.
I'm putting my plans of getting a VT50 on hold until I read more about this.
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http://www.flatpanel...l&id=1332412080
Sad, just sad....
Yes, sad.
Sad that you posted again simply to LCD bash.
Now, to balance out your post, read on.
http://hdguru.com/panasonic-2012-tc-l55wt50-led-lcd-hdtv-first-review/7619/#more-7619
"The black level is lower than any 2011 HDTV we tested, being one-half of the best level we tested on a Panasonic VT30 (0.004 ft lamberts). We like to emphasize this was with the LEDs on, not off, as other sets simply shut down the light source
"Three things made this TV stand out from every other LED LCD flat panel we’ve tested to date: the viewing angle, the black level and the signal processing. No matter if we stood up or sat, viewed straight on or at an angle, the WT50 produced a fine image with no color shift or increase in black level. This is a LCD first, with no need to sit at dead center for the best image. I’d even go so far as to say, in this regard, it made us forget we were watching a LED LCD and not a plasma, which are known for their outstanding viewing angle."
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If you get a blinking pattern, reference that against the chart on the following link....
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Wait till you see it in the dark, plenty of TV's look decent in a non dark environment.
I don't think the blacks on my VT25 Plasma are any better under dim to dark conditions than my KDL-40X3100 Bravia LCD to be perfectly honest.
The Bravia blacks don't float either, so that's another plus.
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I've just read over at AVS that the 2012 sets also exhibit FBr, although at levels post 2011 patch.
Very disappointing indeed.
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I think you made the right choice.
Also came across this today, which should make you feel even better about picking the Sammy.
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Does anyone find their IQ noticeably laggy and slower, like when scrolling through your planner or when it flips to the next page?
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Why not wait until the Panasonic 2012 series is released?
It's not that long until they're released.
The 2011 models had too many issues for my liking, (uniformity issues - green/pink tinges, buzzing, FBr), so I struck that off my list for consideration to replace my VT20 (as the FB's still really annoy me even after a year of owning it!).
I'm biding my time to see how the VT50 performs, as it's not too far away until it's released, and see what (if any) issues this TV has.
In my eyes, Panasonic has got the basics wrong for the past couple of years, so I'm hoping this year is their turning point.
Having said that, if I were in your position and wanted a panel now, I'd go for the Sammy.
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Frog,
The model quoted is not the top model - HX 925 or in the case of Europe HX923 is the top of the range.
It is obvious that you cannot say anything good about LCD TV's & any negative reports about them you sieze your moment in the sun.
It is very disappointing that the majority of your posts are all about trashing a certain type of television & you dont seem to post a balanced argument.
Totally agree.
I'd hate to see this forum descend into the gutter and turn into trash, much like the Whirlpool forums did a while back until a particular poster was permanently banned.
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I'm glad you decided to 'hope' rather than hold your breath...
Yeah I know, and I don't really hold much hope at that.
It's a sad state of affairs isn't it really.
All I know is that I'm over my VT20, the VT30 had too many problems, so I'm eagerly awaiting the VT50.
I have also lost ALOT of faith in reviews and reviewers. I'll take all reviews with with a grain of salt.
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I'm looking forward to seeing some reviews on the 2012 models.
I've read too many reports of problems with the 2011 models, that I was put off from buying one to replace my VT20.
I'm really hoping the 2012 models won't have any issues.
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