IMDave

As Madshi has said in the AVS thread, making a DIY HTPC will always be cheaper. But remember the Envy was created to fill a gap for those that didn't want to build and more importantly learn how to use a HTPC. I don't think you can compare DIY to a proprietary consumer product, especially considering: "Not to forget all kinds of license fees (e.g. for HDCP), costs for warranty repairs, support costs, CE certification, costs for legal stuff, accounting, designers etc etc etc. It's frightening how many types of costs add up to what starts as a seemingly modest amount of hardware parts."

Dont get me wrong. I certainly am not "complaining " about the price. Madshi has been contributing to the community for over a decade, so he's entitled to charge what he feels is reasonable. I'm sure it costs a packet to produce. I'm just sad that I don't have that sort of money to spend on what is one of my many hobbies.

Ok. News time. Madshi's official press release for the Envy: http://madvr.com/EnvyPressRelease.pdf Very exciting, but as expected the pricing will see me watching from the sidelines. ( Pro model $US 10000, Base model $US 5500). I hope he sells a truck load ( so he may eventually release a bargain basement model for $A 2000 😊😊) More details here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/37-video-processors/3053602-madvr-envy-anticipation-thread-25.html#post58541994

Here is the JVC US release statement: http://pro.jvc.com/pro/pr/2019/consumer/firmware_update.html It will really interesting to see how this Frame Adapt HDR algorithm works. If its anywhere near as good as madvr or the upcoming Envy for DTM then my X7000 will be heading to the Classifieds. Particularly interested to hear what the likes of Manni and other N-series owners, that also use a HTPC with madvr think. Hopefully @Javs and @wooferocau can give an appraisal as well.

How many 4k UHD discs are encoded with HDR 10+? A quick Google search is telling me 2 ( Bohemian Rhapsody & Alien 40th anniversary). Let's not confuse HDR 10+ capability with the sort of dynamic tone mapping that Madvr or a Lumagen can perform on all source material.

Seeing that JVC have acknowledged this current model will be carrying over for another year, it's great to see these firmware updates coming out. Not sure which "Stability issues" are being resolved by 2.8, but it would be great if someone notices a improvement. My biggest issue with this generation is the green or purple bars. The fact that it can appear any time from 0 - 300+ hours is a time bomb I am just not prepared to risk. So I'll be sticking with my X7000 for a while yet. But it would be great if JVC could confirm that 2.8 fixes that issue.

😁😁😁 Well they had been repeating the First Meeting of those 2 teams for 3 months. Haven't checked whether they're now showing last weekend's game ( and plan on repeating that one for the next 3 months. 🤔😉😉).

Not having any issues with the IQ4 box itself, however, the 4k channel is a joke. Very limited coverage of most sports ( not an F1 fan, sorry). For example, they are still replaying the AFL game between Carlton and St. Kilda that was played 3 months ago !!!!! Very few "Live" games. Seems to be more NRL. As for 4k doco's, they are on high rotation repeat. Have seen everything I want to watch, and there is NOTHING new in the upcoming 2 weeks+ of the TV Guide. Very, very disappointing. Having said that the image thrown is significantly better than HD and especially FTA HD which is frequently only 720p anyway.

Here you go. @blybo

Just went to have a look and "Sold". That was quick.................Colin ????????

Thanks Colin.....................and you're right. Tempting.

This coming from a man with a small "mortgage" worth of HT gear. I hope we're both wrong about that.

Sorry to dredge up this old thread, but can anyone confirm these are the only differences between the UB420 and the UB820 ( support for DV and 7.1 analogue) ??? Considering PJ's won't ever support DV, and I have no need for analogue out for hi end audio ( where I can't imagine the D/A converter is that great at the price point ), I am surprised more people haven't spoken about the TM optimizer for HDR using the UB420. JB have the 420 for $300, whereas the 820 is down at $600. Am I missing something here? I'm still happy with Javs and my own Arve curves for HDR using the Oppo 203 and JVC X7000, but am eagerly awaiting more info on madshi's Envy for dynamic TM. The longer it goes on though, the more I'm inclined to think the Envy will exceed my budget. If that's the case then experimenting with the UB420's Optimizer slider will be a much cheaper option. @betty boop how do you regard the TM on your 9000 relative to JVC's dreaded Gamma D? TIA.

😂😂😂😂 Nice one. Welcome aboard. I like your style.

Was just going to post the same thing. 😀