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  1. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Completely unnecessary reaction. Nk one is disputing listening to Maggie's in their unadulterated state Peter and in fact what people fall in love with is this sound. The point you are missing is that Maggie's DO benefit from the implementation of mods. Diaagreeing with this is a very narrow view and certainly I would invite you to go to the planar asylum site where guys have been improving upon the Maggie sound for years. Its also a known fact that magnepan are aware of the conversation on the forums and I'd suggest in the case of the 30.7s have listened to the talk. I believe with your assessment that your TR have been out of action for a long time because I was very disappointed with what I heard when I came to your place that day. I would characterise what I heard as being very flat and lifeless. I should have said something at the time but did not although I expressed my concerns privately with other people. I hope that you are back on track with the system because I am aware of the time, effort and money that goes into this hobby. It's never ending and often frustrating.
  2. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Peter, There is no doubt that what gets you hooked into Maggie's will be the uncustomised sound. Totally agree here. However I do not agree with the rest and again I would ask that you speak to Bill to have a very experienced reference point. The customisation of any speaker is an acknowledgement that what you are doing is making what you love better. The pinnacle of the magnepan range WILL be the 30.7s. Could you upgrade on them? I think so. First port of call would be to brace them with steel stands. Would replacing with the existing framework gives added benefits? I can't answer that as the bigger you get in the range it seems to not be that crucial which is to say that I've heard a guy upgrading a pair of 20 series which was not crucial. The XO is another area of contention. Some prefer passive vs active. I think active is the way to go for a number of reasons. Expense wise it is a drawback as you need more amplifiers. Don't forget that Maggie's unquestionably benefit from having a good amplifier on deck so each time you upgrade in this area you are upgrading the speaker itself. That's just what Maggie's are like. If you don't like a customised pair of Maggies but do like the untouched pair then you have your answer. My intention is to build a system which will smoke the 20.7s using older speakers but with a twist. You will find a lot of people out there that hold the view that the Tympani range still remains in elite company for a number of reasons.
  3. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Peter, I don't understand what it is that you are hearing. Every Maggie will sound different especially when coupled to a certain room. Your 20.7s have a certain signature at your place but will be different in another room just like Andy's Maggie's have changed from his last place to his new one. Maggie's however it can be said offer that wall of sound and air that box speakers don't have. You'll find everything tightens up with the mods especially in the bottom end. It is indisputable that Magnepan do things cheaply which is necessary for commercial survival. They could very easily build the speakers with the same mods but don't because of the costing involved which would raise pricing and affect sales. If you are suggesting that they don't this because you would lose the Maggie sound then I think you are missing the point here. We do the mods to overcome deficiencies in the original build. Ask Bill McLean for an honest assessment and he will tell you that these changes would result in marked improvements. Without question. Why doesn't he promote these changes? Because most of the punters want a ready made setup without having to worry about anything elsewhere.
  4. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Peter, I completely disagree with this assessment. There is much to be said for the sonic improvements that one can get from making some smart modifications to any Maggie. Replacing the existing MDF with hardwood frames and steel does wonders to the sound. It definitely tightens it up in a positive way. A lot of guys have also taken their system to another level going active and replacing the passive XO components which to my mind are cheap. Magnepan are a company which have survived this long because they can achieve an amazing sound on the cheap. You get a lot of speaker with a Maggie. It can get better though with some prudent changes.
  5. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    My recommendation to you guys considering a pair of 30.7s is to give the Tympani range a go. I have a pair of 1Ds which have been fully refurbished with hardwood frames and metal stands. I have also added the TR tweeters and gone active. They are a fraction of the cost of the 30.7s and whilst they may not reach the level of the 30.7s I think they are closer to the mark than the 20 series. There is no doubt the latest high end Maggies are a return to the multi panels of yesteryear. As @andyrpointed out you could spend thousands upgrading the XO elements when going active could very well be much cheaper. All of my drivers are further separate from one another mitigating the potential for IMD. The critical factor I feel is amp power.
  6. ghost4man

    Magnapan speakers

    Gary, Your Maggie's are nowhere near having been run in. Give it a few months and they will really open up.
  7. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Bill has to make some money off it though 😊 I discussed that with Bill last year and I think you are in the ball park. It's also likely he will need to get a model in for demo as it's clearly unfair that customers would be forced to buy sight unseen or in this case unheard.
  8. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    There has been to my mind unnecessary fear mongering regarding the true ribbon tweeters. Are they capable of breaking? Yes they are. But if you look after them and have an appropriate amp in place then the chances of something going wrong is reduced markedly. Whilst I appreciate RJ's perspective, I am not of the view that the ribbons just break every couple of years. They break for a reason not because time has elapsed. I used to move my IIIAas around the room which they recommend you do with the protective strips on but without them and never had an issue. There is no doubt that they are fragile but you will find just how this is the case if you handle them. Just apply some common sense here. If they were that fragile then handling them would not be an option. Cheers. ozzie
  9. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Peter, You are correct. I have assumed incorrectly on this which I am glad I was wrong as I know what it is like with the older models.
  10. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    @PoisonM I for one would be interested to know how you did the repair without removing the cloth.
  11. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Gary, This needs some balancing. What you say is true but reflects the very poor quality glue originally used by Magnepan which resulted in delamination. That's not such a problem these days.
  12. ghost4man

    Magneplanar Speaker Owner Thread

    Peter, I think thr other thing that you have to consider here is removing the existing ribbons. That is an arduous task which requires removal of the cloth. I thought long and hard about this part so I commissioned @gonefishing999to replace the existing frame with Tassie Oak wood which in my mind looks far superior and produces better sonic outcomes. Peter Keenan did a very good job of incorporating the ribbons into the framework whereby the end result is the very easy removal of the ribbons when required. What takes me a coupled off minutes will take you much much longer with the risk of ruining the cloth. If you have been to @djbs place that is what I mean. If I recall you will find a huge number of stables at the bottom and underside of the cloth and you then have to roller the cloth all the way back in order for the ribbons to come out. There's a lot of work involved here. Don't forget what comes off has to go back on. I would seriously consider going down the route of having the wooden frames built. It's your choice who would this for you. Peter did mine and djbs so he has an intuitive feel how to get the best result. One of the advantages of this is that it becomes very easy to check to sew if there are ever any issues with any if the drivers. Furthermore I think Maggie's sound better without the cloth on. Something to consider. Ozzie
  13. ghost4man

    Magnapan speakers

    Guys I could be wrong but buying direct off Magnepan could perhaps be the cheaper option. I would be interested as I said before in a group buy to absorb the postage cost. Ozzie
  14. ghost4man

    Magnapan speakers

    @GroovyGuru I'm thinking the same mate. Perhaps time for a video of the work and upload to Youtube. I have not seen one for this type of handicraft. Further, maybe a group buy if that is possible as shipping from Magnepan is LUDICROUS and therefore share the expense. Ozzie
  15. ghost4man

    Magnapan speakers

    Gary, it pays to be cautious mate but seriously I don't think you have to worry too much. I have my IIIAs upstairs and my Tympani 1Ds with ribbons to them as well with windows open. I am not using the IIIAs upstairs at the minute so I leave the magnetic protective strip to cover them until they get used.
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