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  1. Will this be a noticeable upgrade?

    Apple stopped making monitors. Just about anything with a digital connection will be fine (vga might throw up issues).
  2. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    Rebadging has happened a lot down the years. The Ayre wasn't just a rebadge and was highly controversial. I've never seen a clear description of what actually happened. The pictures were already down by the time it came to my attention. Stereophile for one defended the Ayre as a heavily modified product. In particular, I'm not sure about the licensing matters with Ayre as opposed to Simaudio who were caught doing this without permission from anybody. Oppo themselves licensed their base platforms from a company called Mediatek (sp?) so Ayre could easily have bought the core technology that way for their player. Cambridge Audio's players used the same core with different components and paid their license fees on a much cheaper product than the Ayre, so I'm sure Ayre could have done the same and accused accusation.
  3. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    Regarding Simaudio, http://www.audioholics.com/av-preamp-processor-reviews/simaudio-moon-cp-8-processor They did make slight changes and add a new PSU, but what really annoyed me was the licensing side of this. I use a Moon i-1 amp, so this one stuck with me.
  4. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    I missed them...
  5. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    Like I said, "if you're trusting". Didn't you also notice that EVERYTHING in the Sound and Vision section is $43.99?
  6. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    The Krell clone that started this was what, $2K? You can buy a decent legit amp at that price. Sure, at $500 you may not get a great deal - but I bet that includes this knockoff as well. If that FM155 copy had a different case and internal layout, and sold for $500 as a new Chinese amp, the vast majority of us would just think "crap". Admit it. But as a clone, it's got some interest. Update - the Krell clone appears to be down to a few hundred now. Follow the link. Are they getting desperate? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282654575834 I wonder what the FM155 copy would have cost you last month, or elsewhere? Here it is (one of many international postings) at 500 pounds UK, a fair bit more: https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/High-End-Preamplifier-Stereo-HiFi-Pre-Amplifier-Monitor-Based-on-FM155-Preamp/272454139310 Mind you, if you must have one and are trusting: http://www.marketattires.top/high-end-preamplifier-stereo-hifi-preamplifier-monitor-based-on-fm155-preamp-p-2680.html Now we're down to just $44 plus postage! Reckon they can do genuine components for $44?
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    Can someone PLEASE explain to me exactly why a knockoff amp in a copied case is worth considering, when legitimate items from genuine manufacturers in the same price range aren't? I just don't get this.
  8. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    No, I didn't take it that way at all, I should just have chosen my words better at the beginning...
  9. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    I'm well aware of that. I have a 13 year old Consonance 120 Linear CD player in my system - I hadn't even noticed it was that old! I do remember unboxing it and giggling when I saw the words"high end" on the case - I bought it on a recommendation, unheard, instead of a more expensive player, when some unexpected bills overran my budget. Then I put a disc in and pressed play... and it's still here.
  10. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    Have you a similar explanation for when Western companies rip off, rebadge, copy, and "improve" other products without permission? Did Simaudio plunder a Denon surround amp (OK with a different PSU) because the Canadian government was Communist? Did Wadia stick a Philips CD player in their own case and sell it at some massive markup because the US government was... er.... well, you get the idea. As it happens, the Chinese have got the hang of doing the worst forms of capitalism (again) pretty quickly. I'm sure that there is some amount of innovation going into what seems a well-oiled process for automating the production of rip-off models, though. What amazed me was when they did it to $10 Russian Poljot watches. I mean, why would anyone bother? Just to prove they can?
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    Well, for a start... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjXuOK_-cvXAhWCjZQKHdLZDmsQFggxMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.davis.k12.ut.us%2Fcms%2Flib%2FUT01001306%2FCentricity%2FDomain%2F329%2FChinese%20Inventions%20Article.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3e6O8_IKxIElrWCsKkzbIE Isn't it terrible how the West has been ripping off the Chinese for, er, millennia?
  12. Knock offs/clones on ebay

    Most of the stuff in this thread is knocking off items only audiophiles will have heard of, and still selling at prices too expensive for the "masses". At the same time, it's quite clear that they do excellent build quality, by all reports sound is good to excellent. Obvious knockoffs shouldn't be on sale, but do we have ourselves to blame for rejecting the "legitimate" Chinese brands that build to similar standards as cheap crappy nonsense products - and at the same time buying counterfeits happily? Clearly the companies producing these things have learnt to sell items that people are prepared to buy, instead. Don't forget that for the counterfeit industry to exist, there have to be buyers too.
  13. Looks like you've negotiated the hurdles you can, well. I see you mentioned professional room treatment, you'd do well to investigate it at least in that space. No lectures from me about stuff in the room at the moment. I have guitars and furniture stuck in front of my speakers at the moment. I've not heard the Hulgichs, they certainly look the part.
  14. Audio myths and misconceptions

    I expected the order of preference to be the same at different volume levels. I had the amps in a different order when playing quietly from at my usual listening volume.
  15. Audio myths and misconceptions

    One piece of audiophile lore that has value: you can hear comparatively slight differences between source components and amplifiers even on cheap and inaccurate speakers. Remember when getting a store demo that the demo is only as good as the setup. You should be able to get a test in a demonstration room. Treat this as a simple test to see if you can hear a difference in a store demo - don't worry about the "why" until afterwards. Listen to each amp at different volume levels when comparing. When buying my current amp (that was in 2011) I had a real surprise when doing that.