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  1. You might do well to re-read what I wrote. I think anyone would be stupid not to get their chassis checked once a year. It's not hard, it's not expensive, and it saves lives.
  2. Let that one be. Mazda does regen into a capacitor. It's no where near EV regen power, though it's better than not being there at all (and Mazda has a particularly green capacitor design).
  3. Trans are practically sealed life of car though it's practical to change at least once through life. Would think oil cooling circuits to be different to trans oil for thermal properties, my preference would be to use coolant rather than oil.
  4. Now that's taking the piss. Of course the car needs maintenance, it just needs a lot less. @proftournesol wrote that Tesla has abandoned regular service intervals - as in you do not need to take your car in for a yearly service, not as in 'your car does not require servicing'. I don't agree with it personally, though the debate here is whether an EV needs fundamentally less servicing. We can probably all agree that the possibility that you're driving your family around at speed in a car with a loose tie rod end that wasn't picked up because some Silicon Valley berk doesn't currently think safety related to consumables is relevant is one of those instances where someone might be intelligent but they're sure as s**t not smart. I would get my car checked periodically for tyre, suspension and braking system wear (general chassis) as I do all my cars, and I'd suggest any Tesla owners here do similarly. Not least because lugging around a 500kg battery where a 100kg fuel tank used to be isn't exactly decreasing wear. Brakes, tires, fluids need checking and when consumed, changing. It will use brakes a lot less. I would take the air conditioning service bits seriously, as the performance of the car (not just cabin air) relies on it. This covers gas and coolant. Trans oil they're very, very light on. That's it for oils. I wouldn't miss engine oil and filter changes, timing belt/chain replacements, any other belts, ignition system consumables, duff thermostats, indicator lights, anything to do with the fuel system (quite a bit), anything to do with the exhaust system (quite a bit) / consumable oxygen sensors / catalytic converters / emissions system anything... and that's just maintenance. You can bypass sensors on any vehicle, and you'll void your warranty accordingly. Service isn't there to check if you're bypassing critical sensors on your new $100k+ vehicle of any make There's a lot less to service and maintain. Deal with it.
  5. For reference, the Tesla transmission has a single gear. Compared to your example there is very little to fail. If it did its typically early and catastrophic, in which case Tesla covers it under warranty. This is the difference between something designed explicitly for long service life, and something not. Transmission manufacturers with over 50 years experience will offer you the same if you buy a single-speed transmission. I'd still change the oil, that's just me, though most trans oil change intervals are over 100,000km anyway, and sometimes (far) longer than that.
  6. You don’t see what the deal is as you’re intransigent here. They cost less to service. Take it from any leading company or consultancy calculating total cost of ownership. Or cab drivers that run them. Or fleets that actually run them. We all know you don’t want to take advice from owners on the forum. They’re mechanically and electrically less complex. A lot less. They tend to use their brakes a lot less - the regen on your Mazda doesn’t really compare.
  7. Tesla pack life could well pass 20 years on current rates, and on average we re-register cars ever 18 years. Or it couldn't, and we'll all be wondering what we're going to be charged to replace battery packs. Certainly many big packs out there are living an under-stressed life. We could discover something about battery ageing we don't know and didn't pick up in accelerated ageing tests, life could fall off a cliff at 10 or so years, and we'll all be buying new packs. It is unlikely - there are Tesla packs in the wild that have lasted life of car type miles, and battery/cell simulation models are typically robust. I wondered initially whether I'd find this to be an issue with our vehicle, and took a punt on depreciation asides. We bought it second hand when it was three years old, and early depreciation had taken a decent, expected hit. Assuming (all fairly soft assumptions, our actual numbers are better): Fuel cost $1.40/L Fuel consumption 8L/100km km/year 13,000 EV range efficiency 140Wh/km Two-thirds of energy from grid at 15c/kWh off peak, rest off solar with FIT of 10c/kWh Savings/year = (8/100*1.4-.14*(.15*2/3+.10*1/3))*13000 = $1213/year, ta very much. The depreciation experience with ours has been fairly benign, it's been a fairly average hit from when we purchased it, and on energy costs alone we're miles ahead. Other running costs are similarly lesser. Or here's another way to look at it - changing the pack in mine costs a good deal less than what I'll save after the 8 year warranty is up, assuming it's dead the day the warranty dies. From what to what? In what segments? A Model S is already price-competitive with cars in its segment. Has been for years. Already costs less. Powertrain cost is a relatively smaller component of premium vehicle price. Model 3 is the same, with considerably improved economics. And other car makes will get there. Leaf, Zoe and other limited-volume imports cost what they do principally because they're limited volume, not principally because there's a battery in there. Battery cost is a second concern. Not suggesting it's not there, it certainly is, though they'd cost a good deal less if there was a market for them at any reasonable price. Whilst we're a ways off EV powertrains costing sufficiently little that every econobox can be an EV with a 500+km range, this doesn't mean that there aren't price-competitive EVs today. There certainly are, even in our difficult market. Batteries will get cheaper which means more cars in more segments will become affordable as EVs, and more tech will get crammed into cars at higher price points, tech that wasn't there before and that we'll be happy to want and have. Just as it's always been. Short version - if you're interested in an EV and there's an EV out there that works for you today, there's nothing gained by waiting.
  8. It will happen though not in a timeframe that should stop you buying today if there's a car out there that fits you. Above all, wholesale fear and worry doesn't do a thing. There's nothing wrong with current tech, it just costs more than we'd like, and some of the new stuff - should it come to production - will do a bit more a bit easier.
  9. CO2 standards are the key. If they ever come.
  10. Quit with the FUD. New battery tech - probably solid state - will not be developed, commercialised, run through the supply chain and be available at your local dealer within 24 hours. Or a year. Or your next 3-year lease. Comparisons to stereo, iPhones and whatever else are irrelevant. Car batteries are complex to develop, the number of checks and balances required are insane. If you were worried about something coming out in three years and killing your resale you might see press about test mules out and about doing their thing. Do you? No. Stop worrying. The only thing to kill resale of good EVs recently was Tesla's mooted shift to an online-only model which dropped up to $80k off the price of a new model S or X. Which makes these cars an exceptionally good purchase second hand right now. That's valid if you're in the market for a car the size and shape of one of these cars, and you've got the money to spend, and you're happy with a second hand or demonstrator car then you're in luck. If you do moderate-range stuff and are happy with a weird-looking carbon fibre premium compact, earlier BMW i3's are also super good right now, they've just updated the battery and dropped the ReX. And if you don't mind short-range driving for the 95% of things and you can find one - because they're now hard to find - Holden Volts trade at very little and have powertrains that are still under factory warranty. GM lost a shedload on every car, it's way overengineered. They're not for everyone but all this BS around 'I'll hold off until there's a breakthrough because my resale might tank and that'd stop me buying a second-hand EV' is just that - BS. If the car fits, buy it - resale isn't going to be a significant issue, and this is before we talk about any cost of ownership savings - which can be significant.
  11. The odds of this happening tomorrow are zero. A good used electric that fits you (if it does) and meets the previous conditions is a good buy today.
  12. Doesn't really matter - if it's active and liquid cooled and it meets your range requirements it'll still feel new. EVs are super old technology, it really hasn't changed significantly in forever. A Volt, an early Model S etc remain excellent buys.
  13. No... it just is. There really is less to do. And there's a lot of resistance from the dealer channel accordingly - part of 'big resistance' to direct sales for Tesla in the US has been around just this. Much of the rest of the stuff gets used a lot less, and hence servicing is lesser. Yeah... that's not the point the OP was making. They cost less to run - period. If you want to throw capital costs over five years into it comparing them as premium cars then sure, you shouldn't need an RAC report for this, it's obvious. Though In saying something you really don't like if you want to win at this for now and don't do long distances, get a Volt. Some traded as low as $20k, battery is still under warranty, and you're winning both ways for a few years yet. When Toyota finally enters the EV space it'll be big. I think their current 'no plugs/wires' campaign is particularly stupid... poor work by the Australian affiliate.
  14. I don't follow, sorry. Prices did go up as infrastructure investments were made. Not so, the SECV's profits were mandated. Possibly you mean that the profit would have been shared in general revenue as the government profits, not a private firm? No profits were not an option, and the SECV (for Victoria at least) was about as profitable as most good companies of the day, you'd have said 'it's books were good'. Gives off a lot of heat and adds weight a car - there is not much space in a car and heat management adds drag, which is a big EV no-no. Stopping distances are also somewhat lesser by necessity
  15. Sure, though so did Ferrari and Merc. CL particularly has a fantastic pedigree. Me too. Up to DR to prove us so! Seb's an interesting driver. If you give him the best car, and neuter his teammate, and put all his opponents in clearly inferior cars, and if he qualifies first and/or doesn't need to overtake anyone else... he can win four world championships
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