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  1. Well in that scenario you have actually done a listening test of the product in question and your observations should be respected.
  2. A very real problem...for which I have no solution...is that there is a large number of forum members that stopped posting their listening impressions of cables and other devices/tweaks due to the inevitable responses. We are completely missing their input and that's a real bummer. Most members do aim for mutual respect and politeness but when one side's argument is effectively "you imagined it" and that gets repeated ad nauseam, then it's easy to understand if the other side is already a bit offended, regardless of the language used.
  3. I agree...except that my first thought was to wonder about the test tracks being played. I think of a few of my favourite tracks that have more sibilance than I would like but my ATCs will simply reveal that and also the reveal lack of sibilance on other tracks. Regarding the bass, it is tight...comes and goes quickly...as it should IMO, providing the recording/mastering didn't alter that. Now that can lead some people to find ATCs a bit bass shy. "Too much harmonics"[in low end] makes me think that the opposite was experienced during this demo. Something in the recording or outside of the ATCs is my guess...but that's just IMO and YMMV etc. We all like what we like and don't need to justify that. Cheers, John
  4. Glad I never had to choose between my wife and my ATCs. I would really, really miss her.
  5. I think the term "bookshelf" confused some of us here; thought you were talking SCM 11s or 19 passives, which obviously have less bass than the higher models. "Classic" is the term for stand mount 50s and up. I spoke with ATC before upgrading my 100A Classics to 150As. They said there is no extra bass extension with Towers vs Classic. As @Tobes said, the working cabinet volume is the same. Indeed, ATC claim no sonic difference at all between Classic and Tower in the same range. I suppose some very minor difference is possible due to interaction with room but ATC suggested it is a purely aesthetic choice. I went with 150A towers anyway. The extra bass extension of my 150s compared to my 100s was quite obvious. This could potentially introduce more difficult issues with your room, I suppose. Cheers, John
  6. Yes, the pricing on domestic versions has come down so I wouldn't expect that big a difference. You do pay a fair bit extra for the towers, special veneers and gloss finishes (as per Hi Fi show demo pair). ATC say they sound the same, though I can't rule out very minor differences. Apparently, the "effective internal volume" (I made that term up) is the same in towers vs Classic. I guess the towers have an extra cabinet section below. Both domestic models come with spikes, though no stands are included with Pro models. We recently got a new thread for ATC here; https://www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/292410-atc-speakers-owners-discussion-thread/?tab=comments#comment-4382482 I'm an ATC dealer. Cheers, John
  7. I'd better start by declaring that I'm the ATC dealer in WA. I have also owned ATC speakers since 1996 when I bought a pair of 100 actives...so feel free to assume I'm biased for one reason or the other. 😉 The tweeter and midrange driver are offset to reduce distortion by having different distances to the side edges of the baffle. The grill that fits around the baffle, has rounded edges to further reduce edge diffraction. In practice, the effects of grill on or grill off are quite subtle and owners are split about which they prefer sound-wise. As for tweeters in vs tweeters out, however, that change can be huge. @Misterioso I think you have it correct about distances to side walls. In a room that is nearly 10m long but only 4m wide, my current 150As and previous 100As sounded far better with tweeters inwards. Id recommend that as the default orientation. All of the domestic models, including towers are available in Australia. Apart from cabinet size and woofer size, the 50s/100s/150s are identical. The domestic models come with a quality wood veneer as standard. The professional models do not. Construction of the cabinets for domestic models is outsourced to a manufacturer of high end furniture. I have read that ATC build the cabinets for professional models themselves. The baffles of the professional models have a kind of "cut-out" that is visible and is intended for an alternative tweeter position if the monitors will be placed on their sides. Cheers, JD
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