Thanks for the heads up Ian and some food for thought especially in the budget cart category. Well the Jico SAS 1 arrived a week after i ordered online. It was packaged well and the tracking number given by Thaker in Germany gave me added confidence all was well. I paid $300 aus including postage opting to buy direct from their website. I found Thaker's communication prompt and reassuring with any questions i had, so full marks for the buying experience. The stylus was a simple pull out and install and now i have a guard on the P77 which is very much appreciated. I have been playing around with VTF from 1g to 1.25g and settled on 1.20g. I also had to adjust the cart on the tonearm and moved it back about 2mm to give me the required alignment. Again i have been playing around with the VTA and have settled on a 4mm lift at the pillar from level. After doing this i decided to pull out my hifi news test record. Well the cart failed on the second track. "My voice should be coming from the left speaker" well it was but nothing like the right channel. The sound was muted and echoed. I can't believe I've been listening to my system like this for over a year! Basically working back from the cart pins i found the problem. I have four signal out options on the back of my pre amp and they are not identified red/black and as all the inputs are in parallel cd, tuner etc i presumed the out was too! Wrong! Anyway what can i say I'm an idiot and well what an obvious difference... Back to the test record, the SAS performed really well and showed my TT has a slight bias issue this only presented when the test tones became difficult. Now onto the stylus itself. Straight off it sounded very, very nice. Different than the Garrott stylus the SAS1was like a fine bottle of wine that had just been opened. I found the cart took about 10 sides to settle and now it just sounds superb. Vocals are more realistic and emotional, bass is tight and full. Overall a very smooth sound with heaps more timbre and grip! The soundstage has become deeper and wider though this can be attributed to my stupid wiring mistake! Details are amazing, i am hearing so many different sounds inside the mix of records i know very, very well, lovely sparkling highs and punchy percussion. Words flow and are easy to hear, fantastic decay of notes. It tracks really nicely though it sits quite low to the record, this won't be good on warped records. I could go on and on but basically i am really happy with my purchase, i am loving playing everything in my collection and the sound signature seems to suit everything from rock to reggae to electronic and jazz.... A very happy SAS 1 convert here.