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  1. Live in Amsterdam on vinyl has some great tracks. "I'd rather go blind" is up there.
  2. Interesting discussion (waiting for espresso machine to warm up). I was never a fan of herbal tea, but I am a big fan of Tea Tonic GLEW. https://teatonic.com.au/products/box-g-l-e-w-ginger-lemongrass-echinacea-white-tea-tea-unbleach?_pos=2&_sid=58373e315&_ss=r I can drink this instead of another coffee.
  3. For that money I'd want slim naked ladies making them for me in the front room. 🥳
  4. Sorry! I should be more specific. I should have said 'cherry pickers'. I don't think you are a stupid person. You should know that it is implied that the sites you refer to are for people who are local designers, manufacturers, importers, distributors sellers of electrical product. End consumers are NOT excluded from the responsibilities of AS/NZS 3820. If you, as an end consumer manufacture or modify an electrical product <1000V, you must comply with all relevant electrical safety standards.
  5. Where do you people get this stuff!? 240V Electrical items (less than 1000V) fall into TWO categories. Declared Articles, must comply with all parts & appendixes of AS/NZS 4417... Non-declared articles. Comply with AS/NZS 3820. Essential safety requirements for electrical equipment Happy reading
  6. Can we simplify this? Any plug, socket or flexible lead sold or used in Australia is required to be approved (no exceptions), as they are Declared Articles. If the plug, socket or flexible lead is not duly approved it cannot be legally used in Australia. Period, no exceptions, end of story. If you are changing a plug or socket on an existing approved lead (where all the necessary components comply), you are allowed to change a component, provided that... Your replacement item is duly approved. You install and test the item according to relevant Australian Electrical Safety Standards. If the manufacturer of a duly approved item provides installation instructions, they normally comply with relevant Australian Electrical Safety Standards Approved power leads are not considered part of your dwelling's regulated electrical installation. But, they need to be approved to interface with it. This is my understanding. And I used to be employed to understand this quite a lot.
  7. I didn't have issue with the rest of your sentence. I can't do that Correct You are correct, the Q=Qld I would consider the image is of a 15A plug I have heard this said before. Unless a 'Controlled Environment' is defined in AS/NZS 3000, I don't how they sit. At a guess, I think someone MAY be deploying a risk management strategy. Validity unknown. I can't validate any of my speculation here. Any manufactured lead has to comply with AS/NZS 3199:2020 The plug and socket are also scheduled items, as per have to comply 4417.2 (appendix B ). I am not 100% sure of currency of the part or appendix. 2009 edition clauses B2.10 Cord extension socket, B2.34 Outlet device AS/NZS 3000 is always the leading standard. If anything is muddy in subordinate standards, refer to AS/NZS 3000. My understanding used to be that you could query/notify ERAC about any products of concern in the marketplace.
  8. This is not my experience. C19 is 15A. Everything in chain has to rated at 15A or higher. Both Plug & socket have to be same current rating.
  9. Those "piddly little figure 8 plugs" are not rated to 10A. IF you use a 10A plug/socket, you MUST (by law) use 10A cables/connectors etc to connect it. So if a company manufactures devices that only draw 3.4A, why would a manufacturer spend more money on more expensive 10A plugs/sockets/connectors/cables. There are a number of different compliant single phase AC sockets & plugs used in Australia, to suit different different applications. All the way up to 32A.
  10. The current (pun?) overarching AUS standard is AS/NZS 3000:2018. It costs ~$200 and has lots & lots of pages. What you seek is in here. Happy reading. Let me save you some time. There are no moot points, or red herrings in there. Also, there aren't any references to the following: My Electrician said... Power points and plugs don't burn houses down... Isn't that the same thing... they look the same quality!? May I say, I find it frustrating when laymen find it difficult to accept competent answers to their lay questions. Maybe, don't ask the question if you may not like the answer. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
  11. It's not about voltage, it's about compliance. If it aint been tested by the right people, it aint compliant. Even it if would pass all tests, it is deemed as non-compliant until it is effectively tested to the right standards and the compliance record/details/number is produced. Because, how would we know if it is safe, if it isn't tested. It's just you saying "but it is safe!" Safety standards competence, versus your confidence, is not the same thing.
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