stuarth

The new C.A.P.S. v3 spec is out - now different four server builds

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I misinterpreted Connaker's intentions with CAPS 3 when he announced a new design was on its way back in October.

I was anticipating (and wishing for) an analysis of 4 different designs as in something like a P8 Z77 board / i7 cpu vs. an AMD based board /CPU vs . the dn2800mt vs. MAC

An exploration like that of 4 substantially different designs would have been a super excellent Xmas present. :thumb:

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What might be included in version 4 of CAPS 3 ?

I'm going to punt on V4 having the Adnaco USB interface instead of the SOtM card

and a different enclosure to allow for an IR control mechanism

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What might be included in version 4 of CAPS 3 ?

Chris C dropped some hints in his intro article where he said

4. CAPS v3 Zuma $1,535 This is the higher power server many readers have asked for over the last couple years.

Higher power likely means that the Atom on-board CPU exits the picture.

My bet is that Zuma will use a different mainboard and discrete CPU, probably a power-efficient Intel Core i5T.

I reckon he'll be using heat pipes to connect said CPU to heatsinks on a HTPC case like the Streacom FC8 http://quietpc.co.nz/st-fc8-evo

This means a more complicated build involving CPU install with thermal paste etc - but those wanting to avoid that can buy a completed unit from Small Green Computer.

Still thinking about my options for my next server build - but the lower powered versions of CAPS v3 would meet my needs.

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My bet is that Zuma will use a different mainboard and discrete CPU, probably a power-efficient Intel Core i5T.

It would be great if he did.

One other prediction: even more expensive power supply.

He may have revealed the results of his testing. I think I read in the CAPS 3 v3 " Carbon" write up that this was his preferred server.

out of the 4 .

We really need a PC/MAC website and forum of the sort that gamers have, like this:

http://hardocp.com/

where testers are regularly benchmarking new hardware and software for a designated purpose.

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Yes, I think the Zuma version is for users who wanted a PC capable of DSP Room Correction, 8 GB of RAM or more (he already said it will be based on Win8 64bit), etc. But his personal preference for version 3 Carbon may simply be the result of him having no need for the more powerful server in his setup, and not have anything directly to do with the sound quality.

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I've gone with buying parts for the Lagoon with a Synology 411slim Nas. I already had a Sotm Pcie and an AP2 so I'm excited to hear how it all goes.

Regards Cazzesman

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stuarth,

Well done .your predictions were right on the money.

Thanks, fireone. I also predicted that the world would not end on Dec 21st when the Mayan calendar rolled into a new cycle, and that also seems to have been on the money ; )

Comments on the Zuma build suggest that some are already running into problems with getting correct length of heatpipes to match CPU position in the case. As Chris says, not for the novice buiilder.

I think Cazzesman has chosen well with the Lagoon server, will be interested to hear how that goes.

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All the parts for the Lagoon finally arrived.  It all went together pretty well, even for a novice PC builder like myself.   Very Novice.    :(      I borrowed a Screen, Keyboard, mouse and external CD Drive that runs via USB from work and the new Windows 8pro loaded without a hitch.    I have run out of time at the moment but on Friday evening and Saturday I will hopefully have JRiver V18 loaded as well as some other software.   Still waiting on the Synology NAS to arrive.   Slowly, slowly.  :thumb:

 

Regards Cazzesman

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All the parts for the Lagoon finally arrived.  

 

Regards Cazzesman

 

Hi Cazzesman

Interested to know where you sourced the parts. Did you use the links Chris C provided or did you try to replace with local sources to keep freight costs down?

 

cheers

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I got the Case, Sotm riser, power supply and MBoard from the US store Chris linked.    Sotm Pcie I had already.   Win8 pro 32bit and SSD 840pro from my local MSY.     The Ram was the tricky bit.    Mushkin isn't sold in Australia.     I tried to source something local because the recommended supplier didn't freight to Oz.    I asked alot of people via numerous emails to recommend a suitable replacement but basically got no replies I felt like trusting.   

 

Eventually I just got the recommended Mushkin sent out by a 3rd party.     So the $20 Ram cost me $35.   A day after I placed the Ram order a guy replied to an email and said 'Oh just use the local $18 Corsair Model #### it should work okay'.  Such is life.  

 

With delivery of the parts I ended up saving myself $280 from having the same Pre built Green PC (less the Sotm Pcie) posted out.      The Green PC was going to cost $90 to post out.  

 

Regards Cazzesman

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Yeah I am going to build myself something very similar to the Topanga. Have most of the parts already, just need the case and psu.

 

Components list is as follows:

Case: Modello ITX 288 - $140p

Mobo: Intel DN2800MT - $125p

RAM: Corsair SODIM DDR3 1066 4GB - $22pp

SSD: Samsung 830 64gb (already had it)

Network Card: ASUS USB-N13 Wireless Pro N USB Adaptor (again not sure if this will be the best but I am giving it a go) - $29pp

Power Supply: A random one off eBay (need to double check the specs before I buy it) - $20p

 

I much prefer the looks and size of the ITX 288 case, plus it is made in Italy which is cool. Out of everything the case is the thing I am most excited about. I might add the SOtM card down the track but I need to get myself a good DAC first. I will also run Windows 7 and most likely J River, but I am going to check out some other players like J Play first. My FLAC collection will be hooked up via eSata (already have it too). Would love a NAS but my listening room is so far away from my router and I do not really want to run cables.

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My router will be 10 metres from the mini PC and Synology 411slim NAS.  I had 1 port left on the router so I purchased an 8 port network switch and 2 x 15 metre Cat5e cables.  Radio Parts in Melbourne were cheap as chips.    When I renovated the lounge room last year a new floor was laid.  Once the old floor was ripped up I ran 2 runs of 75mil pvc pipe from end to end, hanging under the floor joists, and up inside the wall cavity to outlets about the skirts.  I put in some pull strings so hopefully pulling the Cat5e won't be tooooooo dramatic.

 

Regards Cazzesman

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Case: Modello ITX 288 - $140p

 

I much prefer the looks and size of the ITX 288 case, plus it is made in Italy which is cool. 

 

That is indeed a stylish case, and it has plenty of ventilation on the top panel - important for a fan-less server like this.

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That is indeed a stylish case, and it has plenty of ventilation on the top panel - important for a fan-less server like this.

 

And apparently the button on the front of the silver model is in fact silver, and not blue as it looks in the photo. :thumb:

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Still just chipping away.  Jriver installed without drama - V18.  Fidelizer software installed.   Something I did find both amusing and annoying was the state of my music collection.     I've had it split over 2 HDD's on my main PC running into JRMC V17.   It is 85% flac with the rest Mp3 @ 320.  Anything below 320 I have now deleted.    I found I had multiple copies of CD's between the HDD's.    I also had both flac and wav versions owing to fact that my car only plays wav Cd's hence some conversions were required.   

 

I copied all the music onto a 2 gig external HDD and started the clean up.  3 hours later I had cut the files down from 407gig to 314gig.  So I'm thinking my new Synology NAS 411slim that can store 4 x 1tb HDD's should do the trick for a few years atleast.     

 

After lunch the testing will begin :thumb:

 

Regards Cazzesman

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Interesting but why wouldn't one just buy this http://quietpc.com.au/sys-fc5-z77

rather than this http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/CAPS-v3-Zuma-CAPS3-Zuma.htm

 

Yes they use different PSU's and the latter has a soundcard but surely using the former; efficiently cooled, more powerful PC with an AP2 paired alongside a nice DAC would make little-to-no difference audibly than the latter.

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Interesting but why wouldn't one just buy this http://quietpc.com.au/sys-fc5-z77

rather than this http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/CAPS-v3-Zuma-CAPS3-Zuma.htm

 

Yes they use different PSU's and the latter has a soundcard but surely using the former; efficiently cooled, more powerful PC with an AP2 paired alongside a nice DAC would make little-to-no difference audibly than the latter.

To add to that: if you use an ifi usbpower to run the AP2, then you don't have to worry about mobo and psu (electrical) noise.

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